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Michigan - Ohio State rivalry

Please discuss your edits on Talk before making them again, so we can sort out the most sensible way to handle things. Thanks! JohnInDC (talk) 18:53, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

See the appropriate talk page. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 18:56, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I am not going to 3RR template you but your unwillingness to consider any variation to your (unsourced!) surmises about OSU's actions today - and its implication for Tressel's "official" record - is discouraging and, in my view, a problem. JohnInDC (talk) 19:38, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I *will* template you this time. The sources - of questionable reliability on the immediate question in the first place - disagree. Your edits reflect your own personal interpreation of which one is the better one, and as such are inappropriate. Please stop making them. JohnInDC (talk) 23:05, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Please see the appropriate talk page. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 23:14, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for that edit

And I mean that sincerely. Thanks again. JohnInDC (talk) 01:22, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

A thousand pardons

I am terribly sorry. I just noticed. I am very glad I checked my contribs or I wouldn't have seen it. I must have clicked rollback somehow while doing something else both stupidly and quickly. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:22, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Ellison & Painesville

I was mistaken and jumped the gun. Harlan Ellison certainly grew up in Painesville, Ohio, a small to medium town some 20 to 30 miles from Cleveland along the coast, and an episode of the revived 1980s Twilight Zone written by HE about a writer returning to the small town he grew up in is autobiographical and about HE's return to Painesville as an adult. I myself attended a lecture by HE in Cleveland in 1988 in which he spoke at length about his youth in Paineville. However, according to Harlan Ellison: the edge of forever By Ellen Weil, Gary K. Wolfe, he was actually born in....Cleveland, and his family relocated to Painesville shortly after his birth. I apologize for my hastiness.--WickerGuy (talk) 00:46, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

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WMMS

Hey...

I didn't mean to start a fuss, it's just that that sports is a big part of WMMS' image (when you carry games of all 3 of Cleveland's major sports teams, it deserves a mention).

In all reality, what WMMS is trying to be more or less is a radio "man cave".

You have the hot talk, active rock (Nikki Sixx fits into both), the Browns, and a handful of Tribe and Cavs games.

That shows they're trying to be a "guy's radio station", thus it's hard to pigeon hole them into one category.

Again, thanks for seeing things my way.

Vjmlhds 19:02, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

I've decided to remove the Indians and Cavaliers note from the lead. Rover, Sixx Sense, Browns, Alan Cox: the major programming is all that's needed.

Also, it's not so much that I see things your way as I am in no mood for an edit conflict with you. That requires communication, a little difficult given your tendency to repeatedly blank your talk page. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 19:37, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

WKNR/WWGK - NFL on Westwood One

Ohio Media Watch is a very respected media blog covering the happenings in Cleveland media.

If he puts some info either on his blog or on a message board, it's money in the bank.

OMW has gone above and beyond talking about the new FM sports station coming to Cleveland, dropping all kinds of info (New program director, talent signings, etc.)

So I feel confident in editing WKNR/WWGK to reflect the fact that they have lost the WW1 package.

Vjmlhds 00:16, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

For the purposes of Misplaced Pages, a message board just isn't good enough. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 10:32, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Read it and weep, buddy boy:

Hate to say I told you so, but...

Vjmlhds 17:43, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I have no problem with Ohio Media Watch (the blog, not from some message board). Just add it to the article and we're good. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 22:40, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Also, please use the established convention if you're going to post on my talk page. Colons, etc. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 22:42, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough about the message board/blog deal.

Also, I got a little snotty with you because I felt you were getting a little bit up on your high horse with me, so it was a tit for tat thing.

Listen, let's cut the advisarial stuff out, and work together.

Vjmlhds 00:46, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

I will remove any future edits to my talk page which do not conform to the established convention on Misplaced Pages (colons, etc.). Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 01:05, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

TV Station On Air Talent

LEAVE THE ON AIR TALENT FOR TV STATIONS ALONE! IF YOU CONTINUE TO DELETE THE TALENT ROSTERS ON ALL THE CLEVELAND STATIONS, I WILL HAVE YOU BLOCKED! KNOCK IT OFF, NOW!

Vjmlhds 13:22, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Vjmlhds, I am new to local TV station articles. Up until recently, I have focused on radio station articles, where the established convention is not to list personalities (especially those w/o articles). Moreoever, Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Television_Stations#Article_structure only suggests "information on its personalities, past and present". Per WP:EMBED, prose is preferred over lists:

'"Prose is preferred in articles as prose allows the presentation of detail and clarification of context, in a way that a simple list may not. Prose flows, like one person speaking to another, and is best suited to articles, because their purpose is to explain.

Aside from issues with the list format itself, I don't think every current on air personality at the local Fox affiliate in Cleveland, Ohio merits inclusion in that station's article. Qwyrxian has clued me in on the standard for TV stations, so I'll leave the issue alone for now.

Also, as a reminder, please use established conventions when posting on my talk page: Misplaced Pages:Talk page layout; WP:SHOUT.

 Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 22:06, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

While Vjmhlds's tone is incorrect, the basic message is correct. While lists of alumni must be restricted to only notable former employees (usually those w/own wikipages, occasionally one or two w/good refs), current employees can be listed without references. The current on air staff for station news teams is equivalent to a cast list on a television show or movie, and, as such, is an integral part of the information. The presumption is that the information can be verified either by actually watching the channel, or by the station's website (many of the articles actually maintain a link to the most current station biography page). Since this is a pretty widely held standard on TV station pages, I strongly recommend raising it on WP:WikiProject Television Stations before attempting to remove what does seem to be important info. TV station pages are awash in unsourced, likely even unverifiable info (slogans, history, etc.), so if you want to start cutting that out, I fully support you, but if you call current on air staff listcruft, that would seem to imply all actor lists should be removed from all tv shows. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:45, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

I'll have to disagree with you (Qwyrxian), though I'll leave the issue alone for now. I just don't see how a laundry list of on air news personalities helps readers better understand the significance of a local tv station. I generally focus on radio station articles, where the "widely held standard" is not to list personalities; a written format is preferred. Also, I don't think the cast of a television show (say, that of The Sopranos) is really all that comparable to the news team of the local Fox affiliate in Cleveland, Ohio. Also note that the article I was editing was not for any one "show"; it was for a station which airs a range of programming, some local, some not. Something tells me that if the local news program on WJW were notable enough, it would have its own article. Regardless, thanks for cluing me in on the TV standard.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 21:30, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. It may well be an issue worth pursuing in the future (to be honest, I'd like to remove about 80% of the information in most of the TV station articles for one reason or another--usually, lack of verification), but even drawing a line on some of the simplest things has proven difficult in the face of high levels of resistance from both anonymous disruption and from local editors decrying the "destruction" of their station's page. I recently opened an RfC to remove all unsourced slogans from all tv station articles, and that floundered. Meh, with 3 million articles (and growing) they can't all be good...or even passable. Qwyrxian (talk) 00:04, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

You just have to be that guy don't you...

The flip happens TOMMOROW!!!!, in just a few hours...you don't have to wait till the very last second.

COME ON, ALREADY!

Sometimes, I think you just like being a pain in the @$$!

Vjmlhds 18:59, 28 August 2011 (UTC)