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:::::::Mmm mmm, who can forget the year 2009, and how those IP sock puppets showed up on the Obama articles one after the other, as if they were taking turns, waiting for Kauffner to finish doing his daily constitutional. What a wonderful coincidence that all was! Loves me some Kauffner! ] (]) 06:10, 8 August 2011 (UTC) :::::::Mmm mmm, who can forget the year 2009, and how those IP sock puppets showed up on the Obama articles one after the other, as if they were taking turns, waiting for Kauffner to finish doing his daily constitutional. What a wonderful coincidence that all was! Loves me some Kauffner! ] (]) 06:10, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
::::::::Are you actually just doing this bc you think I am that chronic vandalizer you mentioned before? I checked the IP that accused me of being a sockpuppet (http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/86.16.5.106) and it is suspiciously close to a bunch of IPs that were identified as being sock puppets of Elspeth Monro: http://en.wikipedia.org/Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Elspeth_Monro. So really, enough is enough. It's fine if you think my edits aren't valuable, I don't really care, just move on and edit things you think are important and I'll do the same and hopefully we never meet on any talk pages ever again. But doing what you're doing here is immature, at best it makes you look bad, at worst it makes you look like a complete hypocrite. If you wanna keep digging yourself a hole in this regard I am perfectly willing to oblige you, because it will make for an excellent read for whoever finds it at some later point. ] (]) 06:19, 8 August 2011 (UTC) ::::::::Are you actually just doing this bc you think I am that chronic vandalizer you mentioned before? I checked the IP that accused me of being a sockpuppet (http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/86.16.5.106) and it is suspiciously close to a bunch of IPs that were identified as being sock puppets of Elspeth Monro: http://en.wikipedia.org/Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Elspeth_Monro. So really, enough is enough. It's fine if you think my edits aren't valuable, I don't really care, just move on and edit things you think are important and I'll do the same and hopefully we never meet on any talk pages ever again. But doing what you're doing here is immature, at best it makes you look bad, at worst it makes you look like a complete hypocrite. If you wanna keep digging yourself a hole in this regard I am perfectly willing to oblige you, because it will make for an excellent read for whoever finds it at some later point. ] (]) 06:19, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

== last word ==

before i get blocked i would like to ask if you would watch over the FGM article, please make sure that it will not be changed that much. Just in case my block lasts longer. --] (]) 08:28, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
::Seems like you didn't get blocked, I'm mostly done with it. I am way too frustrated to even bother anymore. ] (]) 06:04, 3 September 2011 (UTC)


== Start over on FGM == == Start over on FGM ==

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A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
For having the courage and fortitude to move Female Genital Mutilation. Jim1138 (talk) 09:42, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Your use of multiple IPs and accounts

Would you like to declare any other accounts before I ask for an SPI? I see you were previously accused of being User:Elspeth Monro, a sockpuppet who has created at least 187 accounts so far. Viriditas (talk) 09:59, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Someone randomly accused my IP of being a sockpuppet a while back, I never got why. If you check my edit history I wasn't even actively editing on my account when I was accused of being a sockpuppet, nor was I even editing on a page that (so far as I know) that the user who accused me of being a sockpuppet was editing on). In fact it appears the only edits that IP ever made was to accuse my IP of being a sockpuppet: http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/82.14.53.128
I used to edit under my ip 174.114.87.236, but once I ran into a bunch of semi-protected pages that I was interested in I had to use the account I had made originally and I've decided to stick with it. This IP: 74.110.153.144 is from before I moved a couple of doors down, those sound like pages I remember looking at when I first found Misplaced Pages but they're all from 4/5 year ago. I'm not sure that this is me: 70.26.114.235, a couple of the pages look familiar but most don't, and I'm fairly sure my IP isn't dynamic as its been the same ever since I moved (see the statement on the 174. page). Either way, I don't think a sockpuppet accusation is founded, like I say one of these hasn't edited in 5 years, the other which may/may not be me appears only to have made minor edits, and neither IP has posted on any of the pages I am active on now. The recent edits by 174. are because I forgot to login (bad habit), and I've continued to use that IP on the 2011 libyan civil war talk page so as not to cause confusion or the appearance of sockpuppetry by showing up with another account. Lastly, and most importantly, I have never voted on an RM or contributed to any talk pages or articles with more than one account and pretended to be two different people.
I have read the comments you posted on User:Paul Erik's talk page. I am unsure of why you are contemplating accusing me of being a sockpuppet at this time, the only editing connection I can find between me and you is that we have both posted on the Climate Research Unit email controversy talk page, and that we seem to be on opposite sides of the RM. This is even more confusing because I never posted on that page with my IP address, so the only way you could draw a connection between them would have been to scan all of my editing history. I am unsure whether or not it is your standard procedure to investigate the editing history of people who oppose your point of view, but before you proceed any further with the accusation you have made I suggest you make yourself aware of the Misplaced Pages policy's on harassment located here: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Harassment. If your intent is to intimidate me out of offering my opinion on that talk page then you will not succeed, in addition to the fact that said behaviour is harassment through and through. If this is not your intent I would like an explanation of why you have chosen to accuse me of sock puppetry at this time because it appears to have no logical connection to anything other than the fact that we disagreed on a talk page about a topic.
Lastly, I would suggest that in the future you go to more strenuous lengths of investigation before you make an accusation. I have openly declared my switch from an IP to an account on my user page, and I have ceased all activity on my IP (except for the occasion where I forgot to login, but I am hardly the first person to do that, but again that didn`t even occur on the page you and I were both editing on). Also given that the person who accused me of being a sockpuppet is an IP who`s only edit ever was to make that accusation I am again confused as to why you would assume that was a valid accusation to begin with (if I were a sockpuppet for an account that was so flagrant in sockpuppetry would a further investigation not have been conducted at that time?), I can only assume you didn`t check this before you made the accusation you did. Also I do not see how I can be reasonably expected to declare that IP addresses are dynamic in nature, I do not think that edits I did 5 years ago under an IP I no longer have control over are really important, especially when those edits have nothing to do with any of the pages my user account is active on now. Vietminh (talk) 23:48, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

I've posted this on my talk page as well as yours so that if this ever comes up again people can see it was resolved. Vietminh (talk) 17:51, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm looking at your combined edit histories, and except for discussion on talk pages, all I see is vandalism. Have you ever made a substantial edit to any page since you began editing in 2006? Going six years without contributing to a single article tells me something is wrong. Viriditas (talk) 04:27, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
I got a temp ban because I used to vandalize wikipedia for fun, at that injucture the admin gave me a chance to either contribute to Misplaced Pages or to be banned permanently. I decided to contribute and since then I have not vandalized a single page. Since that time I have chosen to focus on article titles because that is my interest, and that is the way that I choose to contribute. It is not for you to judge whether the manner in which I contribute to Misplaced Pages is valid or not, there aren't any guidelines or quotas for how or in which way I must contribute to Misplaced Pages. So I don't give a damn if your e-instincts "tell you something is wrong", your instincts are not a valid basis for a sockpuppetry accusation. Also for such an apparently experienced Misplaced Pages editor you failed to check that the accusation that was originally made was some random bullshit from an IP address and it is the only thing that IP address ever did. I guess your sense of when something is wrong is only tuned to people who disagree with you on talk pages. Now, since you have failed to provide any justification or follow up to your accusations I am going to assume that you are going to drop it. Unless you have anything further to add in regards to your sockpuppetry accusation I ask that you refrain from posting any more of your personal assessments of my Misplaced Pages contributions on my talk page, if you continue to do so I will report you for harassment. Get a life. Vietminh (talk) 04:54, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
What would you say is your most important contribution here, or at least one you are the most proud of? For example, if I asked someone like, let's say, User:Kauffner, he might say Viet Cong was one of his best contributions. Viriditas (talk) 05:03, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
I would say my most important contribution and the one I take the most pride in is this sentence which I have just typed. Vietminh (talk) 05:34, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Word of the day: omphaloskepsis. Example: "Vietnimh considers himself a radical omphaloskeptic, preferring to contemplate his own sentences rather than improving the encyclopedia." Viriditas (talk) 05:43, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
What can I say? I'm a high self-monitor. Coincidentally I also know how to spell my own name too, maybe you should ask User:Kauffner for some help, he seems to know lots about Vietnam. I'm assuming since he is such an experienced Misplaced Pages editor he might also be able to assist you in assessing the hypocrisy of repeatedly posting on my talk page about contributing to Misplaced Pages instead of yourself contributing to Misplaced Pages. Vietminh (talk) 05:50, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Mmm mmm, who can forget the year 2009, and how those IP sock puppets showed up on the Obama articles one after the other, as if they were taking turns, waiting for Kauffner to finish doing his daily constitutional. What a wonderful coincidence that all was! Loves me some Kauffner! Viriditas (talk) 06:10, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Are you actually just doing this bc you think I am that chronic vandalizer you mentioned before? I checked the IP that accused me of being a sockpuppet (http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/86.16.5.106) and it is suspiciously close to a bunch of IPs that were identified as being sock puppets of Elspeth Monro: http://en.wikipedia.org/Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Elspeth_Monro. So really, enough is enough. It's fine if you think my edits aren't valuable, I don't really care, just move on and edit things you think are important and I'll do the same and hopefully we never meet on any talk pages ever again. But doing what you're doing here is immature, at best it makes you look bad, at worst it makes you look like a complete hypocrite. If you wanna keep digging yourself a hole in this regard I am perfectly willing to oblige you, because it will make for an excellent read for whoever finds it at some later point. Vietminh (talk) 06:19, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Start over on FGM

Hi Vietminh, While the war is proceeding, would a temporary, "controversy free" FGM article be worth generating? At least having a basic description and links to who.org? BTW: would you be willing to turn on private email? My preferences / E-mail options / Enable e-mail from other users? Mine is on. Thanks Jim1138 (talk) 08:46, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm gonna let some other editors take the lead on this one, the debate over the terminology and then the copyvio wore me out. The article does need have a thorough check done on it, because I think Jakew in particular has been mucking around with it for a long time now.Vietminh (talk) 06:08, 3 September 2011 (UTC)