| Revision as of 00:46, 7 October 2011 editHodja Nasreddin (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled, Pending changes reviewers31,217 edits →As discussed earlier, I'm continuing to remove references to selfpub site from WP.: elaborating a little← Previous edit | Revision as of 00:52, 7 October 2011 edit undoHodja Nasreddin (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled, Pending changes reviewers31,217 edits →As discussed earlier, I'm continuing to remove references to selfpub site from WP.: thank you for directing me to this interesting web site ...Next edit → | ||
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| :This is an online news site, something like grani.ru or lenta.ru. It tells it has an editorial board. What it publish is not necessarily "the truth". But it is sufficiently reliable to source statements made by people. For example, I am sure with Boris Berezovsky can be quoted using this site as a source, is famous novel by writer ], and is photo of publication in 1924 about "proletarian sex". Using ipvnews should be discussed on the case to case basis, but that would be also the case with sites like lenta.ru.] (]) 00:29, 7 October 2011 (UTC) | :This is an online news site, something like grani.ru or lenta.ru. It tells it has an editorial board. What it publish is not necessarily "the truth". But it is sufficiently reliable to source statements made by people. For example, I am sure with Boris Berezovsky can be quoted using this site as a source, is famous novel by writer ], and is photo of publication in 1924 about "proletarian sex". Using ipvnews should be discussed on the case to case basis, but that would be also the case with sites like lenta.ru.] (]) 00:29, 7 October 2011 (UTC) | ||
| ::That site is real fun : | |||
| :Рабы, своими мы руками | |||
| :С убийцами и дураками | |||
| :Россию вколотили в гроб. | |||
| :Ты жив, - так торжествуй, холоп! | |||
| :Быть может, ты, дурак, издохнешь, | |||
| :Протянешь ноги и не охнешь: | |||
| :Потомству ж - дикому дерьму - | |||
| :Конца не будет твоему: | |||
| :Исчезнет все, померкнут славы, | |||
| :Но будут дьяволы-удавы | |||
| :И ты, дурак из дураков, | |||
| :Жить до скончания веков. | |||
| :Убийством будешь ты гордиться, | |||
| :Твой род удавий расплодится, - | |||
| :Вселенную перехлестнет; | |||
| :И будет тьма, и будет гнет! | |||
| :Кого винить в провале этом! | |||
| :Как бездну препоясать светом, | |||
| :Освободиться от оков? | |||
| :Тьма - это души дураков!.. | |||
| Пимен Карпов, 1925 | |||
| Well, I love Russian poetry, but never read this before! ] (]) 00:52, 7 October 2011 (UTC) | |||
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As discussed earlier, I'm continuing to remove references to selfpub site from WP.
Your insistence on ascribing very dark motives to editing from two different computers (clearly identified at your first request as being done by the same person, as in http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:206.186.8.130&diff=prev&oldid=454142155), is noted. It is not appreciated, naturally. 216.66.131.87 (talk) 02:03, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
Done. I've kept couple of references related to the site gulag.ipvnews itself (for example, Kashin article or Dukov's writings), as those are pieces about the site, not based on the site. Perfectly acceptable, in my view. My work here is done for now. It would be a shame if you continue your attempt to link investigation cases from 2006 to my edits. But this is your choice. 216.66.131.87 (talk) 03:20, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
- This is an online news site, something like grani.ru or lenta.ru. It tells it has an editorial board. What it publish is not necessarily "the truth". But it is sufficiently reliable to source statements made by people. For example, I am sure this interview with Boris Berezovsky can be quoted using this site as a source, this is famous novel by writer ru:Зазубрин, Владимир Яковлевич, and this is photo of publication in 1924 about "proletarian sex". Using ipvnews should be discussed on the case to case basis, but that would be also the case with sites like lenta.ru.Biophys (talk) 00:29, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
- Рабы, своими мы руками
- С убийцами и дураками
- Россию вколотили в гроб.
- Ты жив, - так торжествуй, холоп!
- Быть может, ты, дурак, издохнешь,
- Протянешь ноги и не охнешь:
- Потомству ж - дикому дерьму -
- Конца не будет твоему:
- Исчезнет все, померкнут славы,
- Но будут дьяволы-удавы
- И ты, дурак из дураков,
- Жить до скончания веков.
- Убийством будешь ты гордиться,
- Твой род удавий расплодится, -
- Вселенную перехлестнет;
- И будет тьма, и будет гнет!
- Кого винить в провале этом!
- Как бездну препоясать светом,
- Освободиться от оков?
- Тьма - это души дураков!..
Пимен Карпов, 1925
Well, I love Russian poetry, but never read this before! Biophys (talk) 00:52, 7 October 2011 (UTC)