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C. A. Patrides

Hi Charles,

Another editor started an article on C. A. Patrides, a professor of English literature. However, we cannot access the Milton Quarterly. Given your interest in Milton, I'm hoping that you might have access to the 1987 issue with 3-5 memorial tributes (following his death from AIDS in 1986).

Thanks again for your help.

Best regards,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 04:30, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

My resources are usually my own library and Google, since I'm not an academic. I see that there is an annual Patrides Lecture at York, and that can be in the article. Charles Matthews (talk) 07:40, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
Although not a Milton fan, I do have e-access, how to send you the articles (there are exactly 4 = (3+5)/2 of them)? Sasha (talk) 21:17, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks Sasha for the offer of help and thanks Charles for the reply and both of your for many kindnesses!
I had hoped that an editor with full access would be able to check the details of AIDS-complications and his private life, quickly, for the DYK.
I recently established a gmail account, Kiefer.Wolfowitz@gmail.com, if you ever wish to send me anything.
Warm regards, as always,
 Kiefer.Wolfowitz 21:25, 31 October 2011 (UTC)


THANKS, Sasha, for the great help! Thanks again, Charles, for catching the York lectures. Best regards,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 09:23, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
You are very welcome. Generally I'd hope to be more helpful with Milton, as with anything else in the 17th century context. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:27, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
You are welcome! Sasha (talk) 14:17, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination for C. A. Patrides

Hi Charles, Sasha, and other friends!

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The DYK nomination for C. A. Patrides needs to be reviewed.

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Refs with dead links

What is the policy on references containing dead web links? If the source is reliable, and available in print form, should the ref. not be left in place, since it still sources the information given? Or, are such refs. always removed? Before a dispute begins on the Reservoir Dogs article, I want clarification. Thanks. ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 15:17, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

It is possible to add {{dead link}} by the link. This gives some time to discuss what should be done next. Typically the outcome depends on how serious the lack of a reference is (for example BLP matters have to be a greater concern). Charles Matthews (talk) 15:23, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
In this case, a dead link tag was added in March. Yesterday, with no explanation, an editor removed the ref. altogether. As the source is a Playboy article, why not simply remove the link, and format the ref. as a magazine article ref. and be done with it? There is no requirement to have a web link at all. ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 15:48, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
It is not unreasonable just to remove a dead link after such a time period. But you also have a point. Certainly if you are able to verify the print reference yourself you can put it back in. Charles Matthews (talk) 22:15, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Simon Goulart of Senlis

A tag has been placed on Simon Goulart of Senlis, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect to itself.

If you can fix this redirect to point to an existing Misplaced Pages page, please do so and remove the speedy deletion tag. However, please do not remove the speedy deletion tag unless you also fix the redirect. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:22, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Fixed now. Charles Matthews (talk) 21:26, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

James Bentham

I wonder if you were aware of a portrait of the Revd. James Bentham in Bentham, James (17711812), The history and antiquities of the conventual & cathedral Church of Ely: from the foundation of the Monastery A. D. 673 to the year 1771, vol. Vol. IVol. III, Cambridge University PressStephenson {{citation}}: Check date values in: |year= (help)CS1 maint: year (link)? It can probably be tagged {{PD-old}} but I am not that sure of copyright. Shame he is looking to his right, but it might still be useful for his biography --Senra (Talk) 20:36, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Such a portrait would surely be OK for copyright; and can be uploaded to Commons putting {{PD-old}} in the slot for "specialised tags". That's not a problem at all. Downloading an image from Google Books isn't one of my favourites, since you seem to have to download the whole PDF and then do some mystery grab? (Which I have to remember each time.) The work is on archive.org at http://www.archive.org/details/historyantiquiti00bent. I prefer to go there and save the page image from the "Read Online" view. Then crop.
I don't immediately see the portrait though. Anyway one is at the mercy of the scan quality in these matters. Charles Matthews (talk) 20:46, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
Ah, you have the 1812 second edition there? That would account for the discrepancy, I guess. Charles Matthews (talk) 20:51, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
My bad. Citation was copied from an article I have been editing but I replaced the url without changing the cite. I have refactored. Sorry about that --Senra (Talk) 00:19, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

John Speed map of Ely 1610 from 1607 survey

Charles. I recently asked Maproom (talk · contribs) if he has a 1610 town map of Ely by John Speed. He does not. It occurs to me that someone with a CUL card may be able to use the photography self-service facility to obtain a digital copy of said map. I looked for a Newton reference for the map and found this which I believe cannot be used as it has had 2009 additions and therefore is in copyright. I cannot determine if Speed, J. (1676) The theatre of the empire of Great-Britain contains a town map of Ely. I suspect not. I need the original 1610 town map. Are you able to help? --Senra (Talk) 13:02, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

The map I am looking for looks something like this one --Senra (Talk) 13:29, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Not immediately, since my UL card needs renewing. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:17, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
-My card too but in any case, there is no rush --Senra (Talk) 19:19, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
-The town plan of Ely is detailed in the top right corner of John Speed's map of Huntingdonshire as shown on the CUL web site here: John Speed proof maps - Atlas.2.61.1. As far as I can tell, Speed's plan of Ely 1610 shown in Dorman, B E (1986) , The story of Ely (7 ed.), Norwich: Black Horse, p. 54 is a black and white though otherwise accurate facsimile of part of Speed's Huntingdonshire map. If—as I suspect—this is not a derivative, I can copy Dorman's page 54; acknowledge my source, and apply {{PD-old}} to it. What do you think? --Senra (Talk) 01:03, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
I agree to the reasoning you link to, in general terms. But noting that the relevant law and courts for us are those in the USA (because WP is hosted there). I believe your conclusion is correct. Charles Matthews (talk) 07:55, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
 Done See File:Speeds plan of Ely 1610 from Dorman 1986.jpg --Senra (Talk) 13:40, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

GLAM and Cambridge

We really need to glam-up Cambridge! I don't know where to find my way around GLAM from the wikp/media end, or how the Cambridge University wikigroup is going, but I'd be happy to put effort myself into approaching cultural institutions around here. Any thoughts? Dsp13 (talk) 00:16, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Probably the first step is to offer your services to User:Fæ, who is a WMUK board member coordinating GLAM. My impression is that things are largely driven by approaches from museums etc., and that there is plenty going on already. Once you get behind the acronym, there is a need to ask what is going to happen. For example the current British Museum Ice Age collaboration is going to run to 2013 and a particular exhibition; involved a "backstage" day of access to staff; and looks in practical terms like a trade-off of photo-ops of artefacts with some article writing. Experience has been gathered now, to some extent. I have had it in the back of my mind to contact the Fitzwilliam at some point, and I think Magnus Manske might be interested; but it would certainly be worth your getting the national view if the aim is to get anything on the calendar. Charles Matthews (talk) 06:04, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

oops the email WP had for ne was outdated. I've updated it now.Dsp13 (talk) 13:40, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks - that was quick work & I've left it as a dead sparrow on the doorstep for the curators, so watch out for well-informed ISPs. Also 6.1K for the Royal MS DYK. Good to see you, & hope your legs have straightened out again - I can say with some certainty that you're the oldest person by some decades to have sat in that seat. Johnbod (talk) 02:42, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

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