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	* Currently states "Lamar Clark (who had won his previous 40 bouts by knockout)" - but Lamar had been knocked out in two of his previous three bouts before fighting Ali. Source is here: http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=009367&cat=boxer		* Currently states "Lamar Clark (who had won his previous 40 bouts by knockout)" - but Lamar had been knocked out in two of his previous three bouts before fighting Ali. Source is here: http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=009367&cat=boxer
	* Currently states "subsequently converting to Sunni Islam in 1975, and more recently to Sufism." Should be changed to "subsequently converting to Sunni Islam in 1975, more recently taking particular interest and embracing Sufism." See discussion topic Sufism.		* Currently states "subsequently converting to Sunni Islam in 1975, and more recently to Sufism." Should be changed to "subsequently converting to Sunni Islam in 1975, more recently taking particular interest and embracing Sufism." See discussion topic Sufism.
	* In the lead-up: "Ali had brought beauty and grace to the most uncompromising of sports and through the wonderful excesses of skill and character, he had become the most famous athlete in the world." Not only is this hyperbolic, but much of it is opinion. Where's the documentation that boxing is "the most uncompromising of sports," or that Ali was without question "the most famous athlete in the world?" Also, unless you can find someone with credentials saying that Ali "brought beauty and grace" to boxing (which is a matter of aesthetics, and therefore subjective), the statement should either be qualified or cut outright. Finally, the choice of verb tense is a little strange. Is the past perfect tense necessary here? What's wrong with the simple past (i.e., "Ali brought beauty and grace...")?		* In the lead-up: "Ali had brought beauty and grace to the most uncompromising of sports and through the wonderful excesses of skill and character, he had become the most famous athlete in the world." Not only is this hyperbolic, but much of it is opinion. Where's the documentation that boxing is "the most uncompromising of sports," or that Ali was without question "the most famous athlete in the world"? "One of the greatest" would be much harder to contest. Also, unless you can find someone with credentials saying that Ali "brought beauty and grace" to boxing (which is a matter of aesthetics, and therefore subjective), the statement should either be qualified or cut outright. Finally, the choice of verb tense is a little strange. Is the past perfect tense necessary here? What's wrong with the simple past (i.e., "Ali brought beauty and grace...")?

Revision as of 21:07, 22 November 2011

Make his reach 80"
Change "I ain't got no quarrel with them Viet Cong" to "I ain't got no quarrel with them Viet Congs"
Fix issues from GA review:
- It's poorly sourced for it's length, only 16 citations in a article that is about 50 KB in length.
Explain why Ali was stripped of his title in 1964, this is currently mentioned in the list at the end without any reason being given
Add the final decision of the Supreme Court on Ali's refusing to serve in the military. Several court decisions are mentioned but the final conclusion is missing completely!
Properly format all references.
Update Antonio Inoki from being a "kickboxer" to a "catch wrestler" - he was trained by Karl Gotch in shoot style wrestling.
Mention the fact that Ali called Frazier an "Uncle Tom" and "a dumb gorilla," both of which were widely reported in the press at the time.
Spelling - "In retirement" section - "and met with Saddam Hussein in an attempt to negotiate the release of American hostages."
In the statistics change "Real Name" to "Birth Name"
In the beginning it mentions Muhammad Ali's "personality quips and idioms" - this is a misuse of both quip and idiom. I assume the author meant to write Ali's "personality and ".
Tomorrow's Champions was hosted by Ed Kallay. I think Martin produced the program. Older47 (talk) 22:28, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
His last wife is/was Yolanda (Williams)Ali.
Currently states "Lamar Clark (who had won his previous 40 bouts by knockout)" - but Lamar had been knocked out in two of his previous three bouts before fighting Ali. Source is here: http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=009367&cat=boxer
Currently states "subsequently converting to Sunni Islam in 1975, and more recently to Sufism." Should be changed to "subsequently converting to Sunni Islam in 1975, more recently taking particular interest and embracing Sufism." See discussion topic Sufism.
In the lead-up: "Ali had brought beauty and grace to the most uncompromising of sports and through the wonderful excesses of skill and character, he had become the most famous athlete in the world." Not only is this hyperbolic, but much of it is opinion. Where's the documentation that boxing is "the most uncompromising of sports," or that Ali was without question "the most famous athlete in the world"? "One of the greatest" would be much harder to contest. Also, unless you can find someone with credentials saying that Ali "brought beauty and grace" to boxing (which is a matter of aesthetics, and therefore subjective), the statement should either be qualified or cut outright. Finally, the choice of verb tense is a little strange. Is the past perfect tense necessary here? What's wrong with the simple past (i.e., "Ali brought beauty and grace...")?