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Luddite fallacy

The Wagner article is in need of some help

We're in a bit of a pickle in the Wagner discussion page. The issues concerns Social class (sociology) and the phrase supposedly common Germanic past and has now been dismissed by some editors as inconsequential.

At the end of the Wagner discussion page (under Edit War solution topic) there issome suggested courses of action that I was requested to list, from my point of view. Please help. Just take fast look. Thank you

In the introduction, removed as non consequential

• In his own era he furthermore provided the newly emerged middle class with a medium to transfer its familial and political conflicts into a myth of supposedly common Germanic past.

In the Biography chapter removed as non consequential

• Richard Wagner was born into a lower middle class family

User:Major Torp (talk) 15:20, 7  November 2011 (UTC)

Student asking for help

Hi, I am a student working on the Thomas Green Clemson Misplaced Pages page. I had just recently made a rather large edit for the current size of the page and was wondering if you had any feedback for me that would make my page better. My user page is User:Chewey93 so please contact me if you have any tips. Thank you.

cats

Marriage in the United States

Hello,

I fixed one of the references in regards to Types of Marriages (under Sociology). However, when I went to fix the one regarding residential patterns, all the information I put in there was deleted and replaced with two sentences. What should I do?

KazzandraT (talk) 23:18, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Reply: Referencing Problem

The information was missing but I decided to put it all back in. I'm not sure who took it out or why but the information I originally had there, I typed back in.

KazzandraT (talk) 23:42, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Bride scam, what's with 'er?

Hey Piotr! I've finished the review of College and university dating, but can't seem to find the one for Bride scam. Are the students ready to submit? Buggie111 (talk) 04:11, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Kudos for this edit on the SOPA page. With the entry about to explode in size, someone keeping the references orderly will help it develop properly. I know that sort of Elven behavior gets overlooked a lot of the time, but it helps tremendously, thanks! Sloggerbum (talk) 06:50, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Kiszone ogórki

If you can fix the redirect to point to a mainspace page, please do so and remove the speedy deletion tag. However, please do not remove the speedy deletion tag unless you are fixing the redirect. If you think the redirect should be retained as is for some reason, contest the deletion by clicking on the button that looks like this: which appears inside of the speedy deletion ({{db-...}}) tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the article's talk page directly to give your reasons. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. DASHBot (talk) 18:00, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Joint custody

On 20 November 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Joint custody, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that in some joint custody arrangements, children reside in one house and the parents move in and out from separate residences? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Joint custody. If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Radzymin

Your Battle of Radzymin (1920) article is splendid. However, someone left 6 "citation needed" notes in the article. The criteria for B-class is that all text should be cited except the lead paragraph. Please review and fix. I also moved most of your pictures within the article. The pictures were all bunched at the top right and caused gaps to display in the article on my computer. I hope this improved things. Of course you may rearrange the pictures to more suitable locations. Djmaschek (talk) 05:37, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Polish I Corps in the West

Thank Piotrus for creating this article. I Corps in the West is indeed a notable subject; nobody is arguing that case. But at the moment it's a one-paragraph unreferenced stub. Note that I did not remove the article or list it for deletion. What I would ask you to consider is leaving it as a redirect for now. All the information in the article is at Polish Armed Forces in the West#Army. If you wish to add information, and more importantly, references, they can be added to the PAFW article, and the article resplit when it's reached a reasonable size. Would you mind giving me your thoughts on this? (and would welcome your thoughts, by the way, as our Polish-subjects doyen, on the changes I've been making to Polish Armed Forces and Polish Land Forces. Kind regards Buckshot06 (talk) 19:11, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Piotrus, appreciate the cordial discussion we've been able to have on this issue. Unlike many 'Eastern Europe' subjects broadly defined, I very much appreciate being able to have a reasonable back-and-forth argument. I repeat, my main point is that it's a short stub. If you were to do the full translation from the Plwiki, add the Polish bibliographical sources cited (if you trust them) and throw in a footnote or two, my objections would disappear. Hope that presents another option. It would be better for a Polish person to do this than me to try and do it half-arsed through GTranslate, but if you would like to start, I will happily help you improve the article, just as long as we have good sources (deadtree or no) and at least one footnote. Kind regards Buckshot06 (talk) 10:00, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

The plural of corps is corps, rather like the plural of sheep is sheep. Please, and I'm asking you nicely, again, with reference to W.B. Wilson's note at the bottom of Talk:I Corps in the West, DO NOT, please, stub every small Polish unit if you intend to just leave it there for five years with one para and no references. In plwiki focused on Poland that's completely expectable. We've though got getting on THOUSANDS of Category:Military unit and formation stubs. Please add the data to PAFW or PAFE, those can easily grow to 60kb or more, and we can split when the daughter article will be a reasonable size and be ready with footnotes etc. Buckshot06 (talk) 10:15, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Do me a favour mate, let me have this one, as I've bent over backwards to help you with I Corps. Plwiki articles can easily be linked in text, as you'll see I've been doing with Polish Armed Forces. Please do NOT keep doing this - Polish Armed Forces in the West and Polish Armed Forces in the East can both be expanded mightly before we need to start creating stubs. We have nearly 4 million articles to keep in shape, and that dwarfs problems at other wikis!! Buckshot06 (talk) 18:12, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

You have not understood my point. Neither W.B. Wilson nor I have argued that these units are non-notable. They are notable - one's a brigade and the other is a corps. The issue is management of small stubs. Were you to create full translations every time, with inline referencing, you would be getting multiple barnstars from me, instead of these messages. Do you realise that my special domain, military units and formations, how many articles have varied different kind of problems that are unfixable for lack of information or translations? To have to deal with this because we cannot communicate properly, creating even more stubs, is frankly infuriating!! We can fix this if we continue to communicate: please, if you're only going to translate one or two articles, put it in the main article (PAFW and E as appropriate). If you're happy to do the whole thing, with inline referencing, create the article, no problem. Think about this: how many other people but you have improved the stubs you have created to a reasonable state? Buckshot06 (talk) 18:19, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Good idea. This issue is bigger than the both of us. Just one other question: when I placed the talk notice on I Corps, I tried as hard as I could to word it in a way that was neutral. Did you feel I had worded in a partisan fashion? I really tried not to.. Buckshot06 (talk) 18:25, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words. I really appreciate it. If you are interested in any further Polish military units, give me a yell and we can create it from the ground up as a proper article. Other things: (a) the talk page discussion was at Wikipedia_talk:MILHIST#Talk:I_Corps_in_the_West_.28Poland.29 and (b) have you run your idea about a authenticated-real-name-only edit option past User:Kirill Lokshin? If you wish, I'd be happy to push it with you a very long way indeed, like serious effort. Buckshot06 (talk) 18:37, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

You'll notice I'm having a discussion with Mr Wilson separately about 34th Tank Division. 16th Tank Brigade was formed out of the remnants of 34th Tank Division. If you like, I will Gtranslate the plwiki article, work the information into 34th Tank Division, include a link to the plarticle, and then you can review the whole thing? How's that for an offer? Buckshot06 (talk) 19:22, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

I will work the redirects in carefully, and you can review my work, for necessary additions. Buckshot06 (talk) 19:27, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Grounds for divorce

Hello Piotr,

We have been making progress on our page. However, we are having problems trying to get someone to review our page that can correct our grammer. Do you have any suggestions? we tried to get an appointment at the writing center, and I tried to get an english professor to look over the page. The writing center is booked. I am still trying to get an appointment, and my english professor that I had is to busy to review our document at this time because he is to busy and our document is to big. The reviewer is giving us 24 hours...

Thanks--Nas132 (talk) 12:59, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

An appointment opened up at 5pm. I am able to go I might have to leave class early.--Nas132 (talk) 14:42, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you--Nas132 (talk) 17:03, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 21 November 2011

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Tom Kahn: Good article review

Hi Piotrus!

I replied to your comments on the GAR page, and did a few hours of editing last night, fixing the notes.

Thanks again for your help.

Best regards,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 17:07, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

I did some more work. It seems that the remaining cases of blending references and notes occur in cases where somebody is likely to question some claim (or has questioned the claim about SDS and MLs); in these cases, the notes provide additional documentation or details that would interrupt the flow of the article, especially for knowledgeable readers. Perhaps before a FA nomination, there can be separation of notes and citations, but I was told that such a separation is not needed even for an FA (although it is liked very much by some).  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 19:44, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi Piotrus!

I added the requested reference.

Thanks again for your review, which re-ignited my caring about Misplaced Pages, and thank you for your helpful comments and patience.

Sincerely,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 22:17, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Saving the world (or wikipedia)

I mean User:Piotrus/Morsels_of_wikiwisdom#On_the_perils_of_anonymity - Solution. How far have you canvassed this? Buckshot06 (talk) 19:10, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

You have some thoughts on the proposal at my talkpage from Mr Wilson. I think the proposed advantages outweigh the disadvantages. Would you be happy to write up a talkpage note for WP:MILHIST? Better coming from you than me. I think this is a great idea, and I want to push it - hard!! Buckshot06 (talk) 19:25, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, because you're the originator. But I do see that you're named as well. Let me ask Kirill directly. Buckshot06 (talk) 20:01, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Re:

Hi Piotrus! Sure, will do. My new semester started this week, and I've been having a hectic time in RL. I'll be away for a few days, but will check on the students when I get back. Bejinhan talks 13:37, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

File: Germany 1937.png

Regarding upload to Commons. This is only a rough version of the file. I'm working slowly on a version with less heavy borders. But I think the "draft version" already got taken to Commons. W. B. Wilson (talk) 19:54, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, professor

I'm taking a lot of incoming rounds at FAC, but that is fine. I had the first say and it is better if I let others see what it all means for them.

Yeah, Signpost would be good. Please make it happen if you know how. Of course the reporter can/should report on those that are critical (even scathing) as well. That's the role of the press. And I really think our little Signpost newspaper is something special in terms of reporting on the Wiki, not just being another talk page to debate or article page to form (sometimes collaboratively, sometimes battling).

Dar is going to make it a research project as well (I got lazy when he told me to and asked him, as I don't know how).

Peace.

RetiredUser12459780 (talk) 02:25, 24 November 2011 (UTC)