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| =====<big>12 December 2011</big>===== | |||
| ;Suspected sockpuppets | |||
| * {{checkuser|1=Winterbliss}} | |||
| * {{checkuser|1=Winter Gaze}} | |||
| * {{checkuser|1=InTheRevolution2}} | |||
| * {{checkuser|1=Kafka Liz}} | |||
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| Here we go again. The resurrection of Meowy with new simultaneous accounts. Please see InTheRevolution2 account along with identically named accounts Winterbliss and Winter Gaze. The first was created a few weeks earlier and the last two were created during the same period of time with difference of two days. If you take a look at the timelines of their edit history, you will come to conclusion that the puppeteer is using these three accounts to edit on the same subjects (or to invest into one or two accounts to create contribution history to heavily edit from them later in case the third account will be blocked), perhaps, with an internet access being used from two or three close locations. Let's see some examples on the same days: | |||
| *InTheRevolution2 at 22:12 on November 8 and edits on various subjects until November 21 building himself a short contribution history | |||
| *Winterbliss at 3:19 on November 19 and makes several edits . On November 21, he edit until 4:26 and stops. | |||
| *Winter Gaze at 11:19 on November 21 and makes several edits | |||
| *Winterbliss edits on November 22 from 01:07 until 01:11 | |||
| *InTheRevolution2 picks up by making an edit at 05:17 | |||
| *WinterGaze picks up on the same day from 13:16 until 18:17 | |||
| *Winterbliss edits on November 24, from 04:02 until 04:14 | |||
| *Winter Gaze picks up the activity from 05:50 until 20:37 | |||
| *InTheRevolution2 picks up at 21:50 through 21:55 | |||
| *Winter Gaze then edits heavily on unrelated to Azerbaijan-Armenia subjects until December 3, 22:30 | |||
| *InTheRevolution2 makes edits from 20:12 and 20:14 | |||
| *Winterbliss picks up after a long recess on December 4, from 18:18 until 18:22 | |||
| *Winterbliss goes on (while WinterGaze and InTheRevolution2 have stopped or significantly decreased their activity, most probably because they think they built up some contribution history for admins to see) edit warring on December 12, from 04:32 until 04:41 | |||
| All three accounts have made edits related to Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, Azerbaijan/Armenia such as , , , , . | |||
| The bottom line is that these three accounts were created with the purpose of evading the block of ] and edit-warring on ]-related subjects. The plan evidently is to create as many sock accounts, make minor edits (all their edits are minor such as adding/removing categories, fixing typos, adding/removing one or two sentences) from them on AA2-unrelated subjects thus creating an impression that these are genuine accounts when and if admins look at them (like now) and then start alternating these accounts while edit-warring. It's very obvious that Winterbliss is the first account used to edit war and if it were to be reported or indefinitely blocked, WinterGaze and/or InTheRevolution would step in to continue. | |||
| There are also two elements of suspicious behavior by these accounts resembling Meowy and his socks: | |||
| ;Suspicious behavior 1: | |||
| Take a look at his first edit saying that he forgot his password to his previous account ] which made only in his lifetime, apparently trying to mislead other editors disguising the fact that he's actually a new account. For a comparison, please see by Meowy's blocked sock, Magotteers who always forgets his passwords. | |||
| ;Suspicious behavior 2: | |||
| An account ] had been previously found ] on January 3. If we look at short , we will see that he edited on the same subjects as these socks such as biochemistry or biology. Please compare with . | |||
| ;Suspicious behavior 3: | |||
| I added Kafka Liz who had been reported once under Meowy but ]. However, with new evidence, it is clear that he is either a sock or a ] editing on behalf of Meowy. Please see from MarshallBagramyan, apparently in an off-Wiki coordination. | |||
| Please consider taking a look at these accounts based on the above evidence. Thank you! ] (]) 16:14, 12 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :Kafka Liz, your name is being mentioned for the abovementioned reasons. Whether your claim that you are in contact with Meowy specifically on issues unrelated to Armenia or Misplaced Pages is irrelevant. What's relevant and raises suspicion is that you had been editing on same subjects Meowy has when he was active and through his sockpuppets when he was blocked, and that you're being contacted through Misplaced Pages on allegedly "Misplaced Pages unrelated" subjects. As mentioned above, an account ] was editing seemingly unrelated to Armenia articles, but did edit in support of Meowy's main account when it was needed and his ]. But the point is that there is something going on behind the scenes with MarshallBagramyan communicating with one of the major violators and puppeteers off-Wiki, while editing on the same subjects. Coincidence? Long friendship? Well, that remains for administrators to decide. For now, the CU is needed to find out if the accounts are operated by the same person and if one ducks for the other. ] (]) 20:41, 12 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ;Note | |||
| HelloAnnyong and William H, thanks for checking the users. I understand the first three are not ''technically'' interrelated, but are any of them related to these puppeteers: ], ], ], ]? The reason I ask is because these are frequent comebacks with either new accounts or IPs. | |||
| Gentlemen, Kafka Liz may not be a sock but the account has been in the same "battlefields" with Meowy during the same timeframes and with the same type of edits on close 60 articles. If needed, I can provide diffs. And the suspicion arose when, as I had mentioned above, it became evident that Meowy communicates off-wiki with Kafka Liz and MarshallBagramyan. No one would question any off-wiki communication if the subject of their edits were non-controversial but since they pertain to ], it's worth looking into it. Thank you! ] (]) 19:12, 13 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ======<span style="font-size:150%">Comments by other users</span>====== | |||
| <small>''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See ].''</small> | |||
| I'm not precisely sure why my name has been included here. {{user|MarshallBagramyan}} alerted me to the existence of this thread. I seldom edit Armenian articles, and I don't believe I've ever edited ], although I do sometimes work on certain Turkey-related articles. I have corresponded with {{user|Meowy}}, but on a personal matter related neither to Armenia nor Misplaced Pages. Thanks, ] (]) 20:08, 12 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
| Dear Tuscumbia: You keep using ]. I do not think it means what ]. ~~ ] (]) 00:10, 13 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ::Can't see Kafka Liz being a sock. ] (]) 18:47, 13 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
| Re ''"are any of them related to these puppeteers"'': Checkuser is not for fishing. If you can present actual evidence other then "they make edits that I don't like and it makes me mad so I want to harass them with SPIs on the offhand chance that they will turn up to be the same people", then maybe a new Checkuser might be in order. Otherwise, your invocation of phantom sockpuppeteers is borderline disruptive. ~~ ] (]) 05:45, 15 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ======<span style="font-size:150%">Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments</span>====== | |||
| *{{Endorse}} - There's no way to check against Meowy here, but I'll endorse to see if the ''first three'' accounts are the same. I'm not convinced Kafka Liz is part of this. For what it's worth, I believe the Plouton2 sockfarm could be part of this; {{User|Notesenses}} should be viable for a check. — ] <sup>]</sup> 03:37, 13 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
| *The first three accounts are technically {{unrelated}} to each other, and geographically I don't see how it could be possible. ] (]) 18:08, 13 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
| *{{clerknote}} Based on the CU findings, I'm going to close this with no action taken. — ] <sup>]</sup> 04:22, 15 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
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