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I want to make a History of Britain Series, this is, of course quite impossible between England, Scotland and Ireland and their various pre-1600 histories. So... I was thinking of making a History of England Series ending at the Union of the Crowns, after which History of Britain would come into affect. A history of Scotalnd will also be made. http://en.wikipedia.org/MediaWiki:History_of_England - this is a table I have come up with, not all of the articles linked to are satisfactory. If anyone thinks it's a good idea - I wouldn't mind some help/imput etc. --OldakQuill 19:20, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Well, fair enough but note that England and Scotland as political entities only exist between about 500 AD and 1700 AD. Before that History of Britain is a more appropriate title since the Angles lived in Europe and the Scots in Ireland. After that History of the United Kingdom would be more appropriate. -- Derek Ross 21:00, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

1320-1560, the lost years

Surely this article should have some discussion of Scottish history between 1320 and 1560? john k 00:22, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Indeed :) Derek observed the same thing (User talk:Derek Ross) and says he'll probably fix matters in a few weeks. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 00:28, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Actually I'm going to make a barebones start on it tonight. -- Derek Ross | Talk 00:34, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Phew. Finished -- Derek Ross | Talk 05:17, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Good job - I've added a few details here and there. It was James II who took on the Douglases, right? john k 05:55, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

The Black Douglases! Yep. I just didn't want to go into too much detail but feel free. -- Derek Ross | Talk 06:17, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, I just wanted to add something about each of the Kings. Do you think we might want to go into a bit more detail on Mary Queen of Scots/The Reformation? john k 06:41, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Mary has such a good article about her already that I would hesitate to add any more about her in this one. The Reformation might be worth a bit more though. I think that we have enough about the important rulers now. Any additions should probably be about cultural or social history. For instance there isn't anything about the Black Death in Scotland, the role of famine, or about the rise and fall of the Scottish Parliament from the fourteenth to the seventeenth centuries. That's probably where we need to concentrate our efforts in the future. But not tonight :-) Bedtime for me. -- Derek Ross | Talk 06:54, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Yeah - that's stuff I know less about, so I'd have to take a back seat. Certainly the Reformation could have more, though. john k 07:08, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

BTW, how did such an incomplete article come to be featured already? It seems to me that it should still be at "candidate with unresolved objections" until it gets to a near-finished state. john k 07:08, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Don't know the answer to that one. I can only guess that it looked superficially complete to an uncritical reader. -- Derek Ross | Talk 07:14, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Trim down?

I rather like this article as it is, but when adding edits get warnings that it's too big and perhaps should be split up. Presumably reducing the number of images would be an option.

With some regret, one candidate for hiving off would be prehistory. Here's an idea of a reduced section as a link. Should this be taken further? (Prehistoric settlement) People lived in Scotland for at least 8500 years before recorded history came to these islands. From hunter-gatherer encampments to megalithic cairns and standing stones to Pictish and Celtic fortifications, this period is covered in Prehistory of Scotland. dave souza 11:37, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)