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| Again, I stress that I can only make suggestions to you on how to become another valued editor here without raising the hackles of others. I can by no means demand that you follow my suggestions and advice but sincerely wish that you can at least read the various blue links that I have sprinkled through my ramble above to gain a broadened understanding on what is expected of you in deciding to edit here. The welcome message at the top of your talk page contains links to very important policies that is expected reading by all editors and the understanding and following of them is mandatory. I hope I have been able to help you in some way and that you will not take the berating, which the veteran editors gave you, to heart. They too want you to understand what is required of you to edit here. Should you find that you want me to clarify anything, please reply here as I will have linked your talk page to my watch list and will see if you reply. ] (]) 14:31, 5 February 2012 (UTC) | Again, I stress that I can only make suggestions to you on how to become another valued editor here without raising the hackles of others. I can by no means demand that you follow my suggestions and advice but sincerely wish that you can at least read the various blue links that I have sprinkled through my ramble above to gain a broadened understanding on what is expected of you in deciding to edit here. The welcome message at the top of your talk page contains links to very important policies that is expected reading by all editors and the understanding and following of them is mandatory. I hope I have been able to help you in some way and that you will not take the berating, which the veteran editors gave you, to heart. They too want you to understand what is required of you to edit here. Should you find that you want me to clarify anything, please reply here as I will have linked your talk page to my watch list and will see if you reply. ] (]) 14:31, 5 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
| Well that was very um... long. What I don't get is that the link saying ] is not censored only talks about pictures or religious content and none of the link was religious or a picture. Oh, and the other link still had a swear word in it so I did not read it. | |||
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Hello fellow Wikipedians, My name is androzaniamy (User:Androzaniamy) and this is my talkpage. This is not a place for vandalism so please do not use this as a place for vandals who have nothing better to do than ruin this website to waste their time. If I write something on your talkpage then please reply on your talkpage and inform me on mine that you have replied if I do not reply within a week's time. If you write something on my talkpage which is not vandalism then I will reply within a week's time. Please do not be offended if I remove your messages from time to time as I like to clean my talk page every now and then to avoid cluttering it up. Androzaniamy (talk) 22:18, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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Why did you send me this again? I will remove it and consider it vandalism unless you give me a good reason why. Androzaniamy (talk) 21:04, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- I posted it because there are links here to information on how to make useful edits and create articles that will survive. Perhaps you might find your way easier if you listened a bit to experienced editors who seek to help you, rather than accusing them of stalking and vandalism and whatever else. --Nat Gertler (talk) 21:07, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
The thing is, I have read and tried to understand all the information you and other users gave me but I still don't understand them! Androzaniamy (talk) 21:10, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- Then you have plenty of editors here to ask questions of. I suspect that just about any one of the editors that you now seem to view as your enemies would be glad to answer questions and make suggestions if you asked them about what you might do. For the articles you've created, you've been going headlong into notability problems - we don't cover everything, we mainly cover things that have been covered in reasonable depth by significant sources. That means that not every actor gets a page, but we have guidelines toward who does -- see WP:NACTOR for those guidelines. And for various reasons, we don't permit articles about living people unless they have at least some reference on them. Now, is there some aspect of that which I could clear up for you? --Nat Gertler (talk) 21:21, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
First of all I have not viewed any other user as an enemy because that would be bad-faith and I have a strict policy for myself that nothing I do on any site, especially one as informative as Wilipedia should be done just to be hateful or mean. And second of all why is IMDb considered not reliable? The reason I make new articles is because all the red links I see make me feel as though Misplaced Pages is incomplete and removing the links make it seem as though Wikipedians are hiding the fact that it is incomplete. I made a Misplaced Pages account because I fell this site could benefit from my knowledge and enthusiasm to make this site even better than it already is but now I realise that it only contains articles that other users feel is notable enough for an artcle. Androzaniamy (talk) 12:20, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- IMDb is not considered reliable for the same reason that Misplaced Pages itself is not considered reliable - it's easy for a user to insert new information without confirmation, there is no central authority reviewing everything for accuracy. Perhaps more important to what you've faced, being listed on IMDb does not signify notability, because they are a database trying to list everything in their categories; if a major newspaper or magazine does an article on you, that means that they think you're worth talking about, but if you have an IMDb entry, that just means that they think you exist.
- This is a learning process. It's quite common for people's first articles to get deleted; I don't have the stats, but I bet it happens to most editors' first articles; heck, it happened to me. --Nat Gertler (talk) 15:07, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Okay I'll put every single source I can find of each topic on the talk pages. and then tell me if it is notable. If Misplaced Pages wasn't reliable then why is it so sucessful? Androzaniamy (talk) 15:52, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
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My BIG ideas for Misplaced Pages
These following wonderful things are a list of my very, very BIG ideas to improve Misplaced Pages (not that it needs much improvement).
1. For there to be a kids' version of Misplaced Pages because I think that a Simple English bit is not enough for kids (maybe it could be called Kidipedia?). 2. For there to be a vadal stopping team of elite users who care a lot about removing vandalism from Misplaced Pages with their own userbox and leader (me perhaps?) without having to be an Administrator but having some of the same privilages. Go VandalBusters! 3. For more topics to be allowed to have articles instead of thinks that are considered "notable" enough, so Misplaced Pages can become bigger than ever.
If anyone manages to make any of these ideas turn into a reality, I'll eat a Stetson and call myself the King of Okay. I got that from Doctor Who. Androzaniamy (talk) 23:33, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Adoption
I would like it if you "adopted" me on wikipedia. But, you aren't on the list of adopters. Misplaced Pages:Adopt-a-user/Adoptee's_Area/Adopters 19maxx (talk) 18:27, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
I was but then I forgot to add my name on again when I restarted my talkpage. I'll add myself on again. Androzaniamy (talk) 17:30, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
In response to your feedback
Hey, I'm looking at your page and I don't see any vandalism. Can you specify the vandalism?
Abigail was here :D Talk to Me. Email Me. 01:50, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Oh sorry, my bad! I meant my userpage. I wanted to know how I could lock it so that only auto-confirmed users could edit it. Androzaniamy (talk) 18:14, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Listen up!
I would like to make some new articles but I am worried if people think that they are not "notable" enough for an an article. Here is a list for all of the new articles I'd like to make.
Please tell me on this page if I'm allowed to make them. Thanks! Androzaniamy (talk) 18:32, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
- The question is not whether you'd be allowed to make them, but whether other people will be able to delete them. Looking at one of them, Caitlin Blackwood, I suspect it would be easily deleted; having just one acting credit, it would be hard to claim she meets WP:NACTOR. --Nat Gertler (talk) 18:36, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Okay, what about the others, are they alright? Androzaniamy (talk) 18:43, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
- I do not have the time this afternoon to figure out what they refer to and whether they're notable. --Nat Gertler (talk) 19:59, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
That's absolutely fine. I'll just wait for someone else to help me. Androzaniamy (talk) 20:01, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
- You could try creating your own personal sandbox at User:Androzaniamy/Sandbox, adding a section for references, start writing your articles and then see if you can find enough reliable sources that would prove that your subjects are notable. If not you can delete them yourself; if they prove to have enough sources you could ask people to look at them to see if they seem reliable. As far as your suggestions for articles are concerned: We'll Take Manhattan has had mixed reviews so far so probably will not be that notable in the long run, Hacker T. Dog looks a good bet and Teselecta has a section at List of Doctor Who universe creatures and aliens#Teselecta. It's always a good idea to put your title words in the Misplaced Pages search box and follow the links to articles containing the words.--Harkey (talk) 21:28, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! This is really helpful information. I can't wait to get started. Just another question (yes I know, I am being such a pain), will I really need a lot of citations fot Hacker the Dog becasue if you watch CBBC you can clearly see all the information about him. Androzaniamy (talk) 22:33, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages is used by people all over the world. BBC programmes may not be available in their countries, but the merchandise associated with the characters could well be on sale. Our readers want a way to find out about a topic as quickly and as concisely as possible, but reliably. It takes a while to find out by using Google searches so we are working to help them access the information they need quickly and for free. Putting citations in seems tedious sometimes, but it really is the key part of being a trustworthy source of information. There are a lot of bad guys out there who try to fool folks into believing all sorts of things for their own profit so we have to fight that sort of trickery by proving that what we say is true.--Harkey (talk) 23:05, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
- PS You can make your own private page for experiments User:Androzaniamy/Experiments. Just click on the red link and experiment with edits on the new page that you make. It will help you to get to know how things work a bit better before going public with them.--Harkey (talk) 23:48, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Will they get lost or can I save the page? Androzaniamy (talk) 23:52, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
- You can save the page and make a link to it from your talk page and add it to your watch list, if you want. I find it useful to copy and paste any neat little bits and pieces that I see other editors use, that might come in useful for my work later.--Harkey (talk) 00:09, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
- I turn into a pumpkin at midnight, so if you have any questions I'll be glad to answer them in the morning.--Harkey (talk) 00:17, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Hahaha good one! I don't have any more questions because you have informed me really well. Androzaniamy (talk) 17:05, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hmm, disappointing. Looks as though Hacker T. Dog is not notable enough in the rest of the world!! He is really famous in the UK with a whole generation of kids, as well as a cult comedy figure with a lot of adults. I'll keep an eye out for news about him and collect the information in one of my sandboxes. He was a mascot for Wimbledon one year as well as being nominated for a BAFTA TV Award.--Harkey (talk) 21:30, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Not any more (yay)! Could you please help me with Hacker Time. Androzaniamy (talk) 18:22, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Conker Media
I've reverted your recreation of the page back to a redirect, as it clearly does not pass WP:GNG. If you recreate it again, I'll be taking it to AfD. Eagles 24/7 (C) 19:16, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
But I added extra information and even made a link to http://www.conkermedia.com/. I was just looking up more information to add onto it. So am I allowed to make it again? Androzaniamy (talk) 19:28, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Userpage protection
Did you see the responses you were given at WP:HD about protecting your userpage? I've semiprotected it indefinitely, so only autoconfirmed users will be able to edit it, because the relevant section of our protection policy says that a user's request is a sufficient reason to protect a userpage. Please note two things — (1) Because it's indefinite, it will never be unprotected unless an administrator unprotects it; if you change your mind, simply ask me at my talk page or go to WP:RFPP and add a statement saying that you want unprotection. RFPP is the best place to go whenever you believe that a page should be protected or unprotected, unless you ask an administrator on his/her talk page. (2) Please note that the procedures for userpages and user talk pages are very different: while we readily protect userpages upon request, we virtually never protect user talk pages, since they're by far the best way for people to contact you. For this reason, if your talk page is vandalised repeatedly, you'll unfortunately have no way to fight it except for reverting the vandals and reporting them at WP:AIV. Nyttend (talk) 00:59, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks and don't worry, my talkpage will not need protecting. Androzaniamy (talk) 16:59, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
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spelling
Thanks for the barnstar! I enjoy correcting spelling as much as some enjoy writing an article. I know it can be hard to copyedit your own works, so I read as many as I can done by other people to check for these things! Keep writing!
Thanks again! --RichardMills65 (talk) 17:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
No, thank you. May your quest on correcting spelling be easy and enjoyable! Androzaniamy (talk) 17:31, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Nomination of Hacker Time for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Hacker Time is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Hacker Time until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.
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You have not explained why. Androzaniamy (talk) 21:54, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- At Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Hacker Time I have. Eagles 24/7 (C) 21:54, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you, please provide the link next time. Androzaniamy (talk) 18:10, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
- The link is in the second paragraph of my first message. Please read the message next time. Eagles 24/7 (C) 18:13, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
No, I mean next time you want to delete another one of my articles (again). I would not have said thank you if you did not provide it! Please at least try to understand what I mean next time and if you did please tell me if you do not understand it next time. Androzaniamy (talk) 18:19, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
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January 2012
Please do not delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Hacker Time. Such edits are disruptive and appear to be vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. GB fan 17:45, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
It was not vandalism, you putting in swear words is however. Androzaniamy (talk) 17:53, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
- If you feel that word is swear word you are able to open up a Redirects for discussion on that particular redirect. If the consensus is that it is a swear word then the redirect will be deleted. At this time however it is a valid redirect and your changing of others comments is against policy. You should also look up the Misplaced Pages definition of vandalism, my restoration of your change does not come under that definition. GB fan 18:12, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
But if I do that then I will have to write the word and I will not stoop that low, could you please do it for me. Androzaniamy (talk) 18:19, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
- I do not see any problem with the word and do not see it as a swear word. I didn't put it on your page above because I respect that you don't like it but I will not create a discussion about it. You will need to explain yourself the problems you have with the word. GB fan 18:28, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you, could I make a discussion without actually having to use the word myself? Androzaniamy (talk) 19:17, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Constructive contributions to Misplaced Pages are appreciated, but a recent edit of yours to the article Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Hacker Time has an edit summary that appears to be inaccurate or inappropriate. Please use edit summaries that accurately tell other editors what you did, and feel free to use the sandbox for any tests you may want to do. Thank you. Don't use all those extra letters like you did. It's truly not necessary. Calabe1992 18:23, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't see anything wrong with expressing my opinion by doing that. Androzaniamy (talk) 18:28, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, you don't seem to see anything wrong with anything you do. Calabe1992 18:30, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
That is a lie. Androzaniamy (talk) 18:33, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
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Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Eagles 24/7 (C) 19:18, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Which one? Androzaniamy (talk) 19:01, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
- It got archived, but I brought up concerns about your incompetence and unwillingness to accept advice from others. A couple other editors agreed with my views, but no administrative action was taken in the 24 hours the thread was up. Eagles 24/7 (C) 19:11, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
What incompetence? Androzaniamy (talk) 19:29, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
- You can review the discussion here. --Nat Gertler (talk) 19:50, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Eagle247, you are being rather rude. Someone disagrees with you, so you complain they are unwilling to accept advice from others, meaning you and others who think like you do. Most of those articles will probably be kept, so nothing wrong with creating them. Dream Focus 22:32, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
- What does Androzaniamy disagree with me about? That she apparently believes that policies should not restrict which articles can be created per this? Eagles 24/7 (C) 23:58, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
- Of course we follow policies. Just the suggested guidelines you can ignore, as I pointed out in the AFD for Hacker Time. We'll see how many of the articles they created remain once the AFDs you started end. Dream Focus 00:04, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Like these two? Eagles 24/7 (C) 00:13, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not sure why Isaac Ssebandeke was deleted. Click Google news archive search at the top of that AFD and you see coverage of them straight away.
- REVIEW: There's Only One Wayne Matthews, Crucible Studio -...
- Sheffield Telegraph - Apr 1, 2010
- In Dawn Walton's winning production, Isaac Ssebandeke and Troy Glasgow ingeniously play a multiplicity of roles, male/female, young/old, black/white as well ...
- I'm not sure why Isaac Ssebandeke was deleted. Click Google news archive search at the top of that AFD and you see coverage of them straight away.
- Like these two? Eagles 24/7 (C) 00:13, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Of course we follow policies. Just the suggested guidelines you can ignore, as I pointed out in the AFD for Hacker Time. We'll see how many of the articles they created remain once the AFDs you started end. Dream Focus 00:04, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- There's Only One Wayne Matthews | Stage | The Guardian
- The Guardian - Apr 5, 2010
- Isaac Ssebandeke gives a great, energetic performance as Wayne, while Troy Glasgow's adaptability in multiple roles suggests that, while there's only one ...
- Anyway, I don't know how many articles this person created, and which ones were kept and which ones were deleted, nor how many of those deleted were done so for legitimate reason and not because people didn't bother checking for sources themselves, so I can't comment on any pattern. Doesn't really seem like a problem to me. Dream Focus 01:28, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Those two news articles (if you click on them) do not serve as significant coverage of the subject. The two lines you mention are actually the only ones that reference Ssebandeke. Eagles 24/7 (C) 01:35, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- The Guardian praises his performance, and that counts towards notability. Where there is one there is usually more. I have time to look into this now. I see the person being interviewed about. Not sure if The Wonderful World of Carminelitta is a reliable source or not. Seems like it might just be an active blog. They interviewed him. It seems like if they had done a simple search, they would've found and commented on the Guardian's mention of him. Too often people just say, hey, I don't see any references in the article, forget about WP:BEFORE, I'll just say delete without even looking for any. Dream Focus 09:53, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Those two news articles (if you click on them) do not serve as significant coverage of the subject. The two lines you mention are actually the only ones that reference Ssebandeke. Eagles 24/7 (C) 01:35, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
Are you willing to be 'adopted'?
For whatever reason, I have been watching your edits and some of the conflicts in which you have been involved in the past couple of days. I absolutely refuse to get into back-and-forth arguments but I'm willing to mentor you if you are interested. You might have an interest in becoming a good Misplaced Pages editor and, if you do, you really need to settle down and work with someone. If you are interested in doing that, I'll be happy to be that person. If you want to be a good editor, and not have conflicts and arguments, I'll help you. But if you're going to stubbornly refuse guidance, I don't have time for it. I think in some ways you've been treated poorly and that's why I'm extending this offer. Let me know what your feeling is about this. If you want to do it, that's great, but I would expect a change in behavior. I know that sounds domineering, but in my opinion, you don't yet have a good sense of how the project works. I'm happy to teach you and share whatever I know, but you have to be willing to listen and practice some of the things that I tell you. I don't know everything - and there are those who would say that I don't know much - but I'd like to help you if you're willing. Let me know... it's ok with me either way... Wikipelli 23:18, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Oh dear, there is no easy way of me saying this without sounding extremely rude and ungrateful but I will try to be as polite as I can. Before I start, sorry for any offence caused in what I am about to say and none of it was intended. Okay so here it goes. I would just like to thank you for the offer and I appreciate that you are taking an interest in how I edit Misplaced Pages and wanting to help me but am afraid that I am going to have to decline the offer. Here is the reason and and do not worry it is nothing against you. I really want to adopt another user myself and I would not be able to adopt if I am already being adopted myself. Also the way that you see me (I think) seems like you think about me as a disruptive editor who you want nothing to with and if I say something which you might see as how you put it "defensive" and "antagonistic" and I try to persuade you to see the truth that I am not it leads to a misunderstanding. The only thing that I have ever said purposely to be debated about is at the discussion for Hacker Time which I think is supposed to be a debate (pardon me and apologies if I am wrong). I absolutely , most definitely by all the moons of Raxacoricofallapatorius hate getting into arguments and will try to avoid them at all costs unless it is absolutely have to as in saving an article that needs to be saved such as Hacker Time. I do not think being adopted by you is a good choice for me right now and I would prefer it if we had nothing to do with each other right now to avoid any more trouble but I will have to intervene if I see any vandalism from you and will report you to an administrator and am perfectly happy to do that. Androzaniamy (talk) 19:28, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your co-operation on this matter, again please accept my apologies. Androzaniamy (talk) 19:33, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Move of Hacker dog article
I have moved Hacker the Dog to Hacker T. Dog, as this seems to be the usual name. Let me know if you think I was wrong to do so. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:53, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
It's fine! I wanted to put with that title myself but for some reason the page wouldn't let me. Androzaniamy (talk) 19:03, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Notice of discussion at the Administrators' Noticeboard
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Is this the same one or another one? Androzaniamy (talk) 19:15, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
- Basically a follow-up of the first one. Eagles 24/7 (C) 19:16, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Just a precaution has it got a swear word like the other? If it doesn't please send me a link. Androzaniamy (talk) 19:19, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
- The link is above. Eagles 24/7 (C) 19:20, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
But all I see is a very long contents page. Androzaniamy (talk) 19:21, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
- Yes. Your section is here. Eagles 24/7 (C) 19:22, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
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A few changes
To all users who think I'm trouble,
I have been thinking carefully and have come to a final conclusion as to why some other users seem to absolutely hate me and everything I do. These are a list of things I will try to do when I edit Misplaced Pages. From now on I will:
Not trust Misplaced Pages when I use it for my own purposes.
Continue editing it for as long as I shall live!
Ignore rude messages to me and report them.
Ignore users that call me names.
Continue fighting vandalism.
Accept all help whether I need it or not.
Ask for help from users that are helpful and polite.
Give help to users who ask for it.
Spend more time on editing Misplaced Pages instead of trying to persuade others that I don't mean to be mean.
Not give thank you messages to users who do not recieve them well.
Never edit another user's user page.
Continue being polite and competent.
I will send a copy to users who I think might need to read it.
Androzaniamy (talk) 12:18, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
Greetings, I'm merely a busybody who has been following the report on the administrator's noticeboard. First of all, you're under the misunderstanding that there are users who hate you. This is absolutely not the case. However, there is a general consensus that the way you're approaching editing on Misplaced Pages is not the way that is accepted by the community. I am not an administrator so I have absolutely no authority to enforce anything that I suggest. I am merely passing on some things I have observed and learned in my time here. I gather that you are most likely quite young and that some language here may offend you. This is something that will happen from time to time. One of the policies of Misplaced Pages is WP:NOT and one of the clauses in this policy is that Wiki is not censored. I highly recommend you read this policy. Policies on Misplaced Pages are enforceable rules and repeated violations of them can be dealt with by the administrators here. This leads me to another link that I suggest you read as well, which is the guidelines on talk pages. It is considered very rude by the community to edit someone else's posts, such as what you did when someone linked you to WP:OCE. I've used a different link that sends you to the same page. If someone posts something on your talk page that you consider offensive, it is expected that you go to that user's talk page and politely ask them to edit their post to be non offensive to you. By common courtesy, the other editor should do so. At this point I should explain what the definition of a guideline is. A guideline is something that is not policy and thus not, strictly speaking, enforceable by administrators. However, many of the guidelines are treated as if they were policies and as such are sometimes enforced like policies. The next point I want to make is with regards to competence. I do not wish to belabour this point, nor offend you, so I will merely point you to to this link. One of the points that was raised in the ANI report was that you wished not to be adopted but to adopt another user. As an admin had said, you are not required to be adopted to edit on Misplaced Pages. Adoption is offered to new users who are finding it hard to work within the policies and guidelines of the encyclopedia. This is by no means because new users such as yourself are stupid but a reflection of the growing complexity of this site. Adoption is one way for new users to work with experienced users to learn the ropes here and to gain a greater understanding on how to edit here and enjoy what they do. I emphasise that adoption is not required. If you comb through my edits, you will find that I do have a large number of them. I do not edit frequently as I am generally a copy editor who corrects articles for grammar and phrasing and I'm also quite picky about the sort of articles I edit. By that notion, I am often considered a " new user" by some of those who have edited continuously for many years, however, I spend more time reading here than I do editing and thus have a reasonable understanding of how things are done here. I'll wind this up as I'm rambling a lot and this is getting rather long. Your wish to adopt another user is admirable, but it has raised the eyebrows of many veteran editors as it is something that only extremely experienced editors do. I highly recommend that you do not seek to adopt a user until you have spent at least a year editing continuously and have spent some time in all aspects of wikilife outside of the article editing.
Again, I stress that I can only make suggestions to you on how to become another valued editor here without raising the hackles of others. I can by no means demand that you follow my suggestions and advice but sincerely wish that you can at least read the various blue links that I have sprinkled through my ramble above to gain a broadened understanding on what is expected of you in deciding to edit here. The welcome message at the top of your talk page contains links to very important policies that is expected reading by all editors and the understanding and following of them is mandatory. I hope I have been able to help you in some way and that you will not take the berating, which the veteran editors gave you, to heart. They too want you to understand what is required of you to edit here. Should you find that you want me to clarify anything, please reply here as I will have linked your talk page to my watch list and will see if you reply. Blackmane (talk) 14:31, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
Well that was very um... long. What I don't get is that the link saying Misplaced Pages is not censored only talks about pictures or religious content and none of the link was religious or a picture. Oh, and the other link still had a swear word in it so I did not read it. Androzaniamy (talk) 17:49, 5 February 2012 (UTC)