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Previous account was User:Off2riorob

Welcome to Youreallycan's talkpage. If you are unable to post here follow this link to post at my unprotected talkpage.

	Welcome
	If you start a discussion here on my talkpage I will likely respond on this page as I like to keep discussion complete in one location. If I feel the discussion is confrontational or attacking I reserve the right to request you to host it on your own talkpage. If I move the discussion to your talkpage please do not replace it here, I will delete it.

This user helped promote Ed Miliband to good article status.

Just FYI

• - For a guy with a username like User talk:PottsSmoker, vandalizing Tim Potts, you can just report it to UAA or AIV as an attack account. They don't need to be warned when the username makes it clear he intends to just disrupt the article. Good luck with your work on WP:BLPN! Reaper Eternal (talk) 21:33, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Ah thanks for the note Reaper. Youreallycan 21:35, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

DRV

A notification that the Templates for Discussion discussion (oy, repetition) has been taken to a deletion review discussion. The Article Rescue Squadron was notified, and as notifications to previous involved parties isn't normal practise, I and a few ARS members agreed that, in the interests of transparency and fairness, we should let everyone know...hence this talkpage message ;).

If anyone has an issue with me sending these out, do drop me a note on my talkpage. Regards, Ironholds (talk) 10:29, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

RFC user Fae

• - You should tone it down

Your addition here uses unnecessarily inflammatory language. ASCIIn2Bme (talk) 21:13, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

That seems like a reasonable reflection of past editing patterns. Thanks for the nudge , after consideration, I agree with your comment and have struck that comment - thanks - Youreallycan 21:01, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Leo Laporte

• Do not delete content from the talk pages of articles, you should archive it instead. Please read WP:ARCHIVE for further reference. Gsingh (talk) 06:02, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
  • My apologies. I realised you forgot to place the archive navigational boxes. Gsingh (talk) 06:10, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Apologies

...are in order for this comment that I made in the context of the santorum mess. I was being a dick and I am sincerely sorry. I decided it would be a good idea to walk away from that talk page for a few days; I've been a happier person since then and it looks like the page is better off as well (I'd like to think I'm not the only reason for that, but I won't shut out the obvious conclusion). I still disagree with your opinion on the suitability of the external link, but I don't want to contribute to a poisonous editing environment. If we meet on the same talk page again in the future, I hope to comport myself more honorably and work with you more harmoniously. In the case that I do not, please feel free to call me on it immediately, and refer me to this comment. Thank you. Sincerely, ☯.ZenSwashbuckler.☠ 20:27, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Thats very decent of you to come and comment in such a way Zen and you are the bigger for that. Its a discussion more than a few feel quite strongly about - Its a sign of maturity that you saw yourself getting overly involved and took a break - you have all my respect and gratitude for your contributions to the discussion and for your comment here - best - Youreallycan 20:43, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

January 2012

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Youreallycan (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Willing to agree to this good faith unblock condition from the blocking admin, "if he accepts a 0RR restriction until the one-week block would have expired." Youreallycan 16:33, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Accept reason:

Unblocked per agreement, a 0RR restriction until Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:17:16 GMT. --Chris (talk) 17:41, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	I know that sometimes the going gets tough and our work remains unappreciated. I award you the Tireless contributor barnstar as a recognition for all the thankless work you do on the biographies of living persons noticeboard. — Nearly Headless Nick {C} 14:07, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

• - Great - aw, many thanks Sir Nick - Youreallycan 21:49, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Shakehandsman

This notice is being sent to you because you participated in this RFC, which was placed on indefinite hold when the user who was the subject abruptly retired from Misplaced Pages. As of today that user has announed that they are no longer retired and are retuning to the project. This does not mean that the RFC must be re-opened, but it can be if anyone feels there is a need for the discussion to continue. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:57, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Well that didn't take long, it is now re-opened. As you are currently blocked if there is anything you would like to post there add it here and it can be copied over. I may not be around all the time but I'm guessing you have enough talk page stalkers to help out with that. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:47, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

RfC

Hello, you recently participated in a straw poll concerning a link at the Campaign for "santorum" neologism article. I am giving all the poll participants a heads-up that a RfC on the same issue is being conducted here. B——C_ritical 19:46, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

A generous offer

A genuinely generous offer exists at this talkpage. I hope you'll avail yourself to the reasonable terms. My76Strat (talk) 17:01, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for your input My76Strat. I have updated my unblock request accordingly. Youreallycan 17:14, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Welcome back - now get to work! :) --Jezebel'sPonyo 18:52, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Aw, thanks for the pointer - I had a quick look and mostly under control there - I need to stop being so naughty for such non existent benefit - best regards to you Ponyo - Youreallycan 18:56, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Reminder to self and any TPS

I must remember I am on a zero revert condition for the next few days - if by some mind numbing brain freeze I forget - please revert for me or nudge me to self revert. - Youreallycan 19:25, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Nudge: .--Bbb23 (talk) 17:55, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

• Oh, I'll do better than that--I'll block you for a week, a month!, in a second. Happy days! Drmies (talk) 22:49, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
  • you bugger, stop stop - you are my evil enemy - --- no!!! ... not really - we have fallen out, but we are moving on from that - rapid - Youreallycan 22:54, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
    • I actually spoke out on your side on that RfC about including the santorum link. Drmies (talk) 00:31, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
      • I was stalking your talk page on my mobile phone earlier today, got distracted and put my phone in my pocket. Later, it seems I had sent you a garbled email. I've heard of "pocket dialing" before but this is a first for me. Sorry if you got a strange email. Cullen Let's discuss it 00:34, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
        • Hi Cullen. Yes I did get a garbled mess age and thought your account might have been hijacked ... good to see its all ok - Youreallycan 08:37, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
• Rob, I never thought I'd say this in truth: I had a Rick Santorum dream last night. I was telling him at some campaign stop that I appreciated that he was a straight shooter, not a flip-flop like Romney (I was repeating Piers Morgan's comments on TV last night). He was pretty good-looking as well, and I was starting to like him, until he began explaining that the federal government would soon start taxing faxes to support the left-wing welfare state, like a vulture, and to emphasize his point he started hopping around like a vulture (on the table) and screeching. Then, I decided I had had enough of that dream and woke up. Now, is my telling you this a BLP violation? ;) Keep in mind, you can't revert this! Haha, Drmies (talk) 17:50, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

I can't revert, I can't revert...damn, I love reverting. I might put this in one of those boxes and prominently display it and set up shop and collect and publish wikipedian dreams...lol - Youreallycan 08:54, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

It can't be a BLP violation as you've provided a reliable dream source and you are truthfully reporting the fax, I mean facts. How do you feel about the dream? What does your therapist say? Do people still really fax things? Did you have a pet vulture when you were a child? I'll stop now.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:51, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

They are all quite good looking apart from Newt. All ponies in a one horse race viewing from this side of the pond. I fancy the black stallion is the odds on favorite. Youreallycan 08:50, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi guys , thanks for the amusing opening to my day. I had a bit of an Internet outage ..caused perhaps by strange emails I have been receiving. Alls well in the wiki world, glad to see - best regards - Rob - Youreallycan 08:37, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

February 2012

3RR at John Fleming (U.S. politician) User:Smsarmad 21:11, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Searching

I'm tellin' ya man, from what I've seen and understand, collapsed and uncollapsed don't make any difference in the internal search engine. It reads the underlying wikitext and then does some mysterious search indexing, especially it seems, for simple searches. We just proved it between us, through the totally improbable event that you chose as an example search string some text that had not only been hatted on one page, but also copied to another page and left unhatted. Your search found neither, my search found both. I won't disagree that our search engine has its drawbacks and quirks, but I don't believe use of collapse boxes is one of them. And OTOH, it is the only engine that can see past NOINDEX, and try advanced search, click only (Article) and enter "cite web" Bet you can't do that with any other search engine. So for me, the answer is to improve the documentation. Franamax (talk) 07:12, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok Fran , thanks for the detail - I have heard some complaints about how poor the en wiki search engine is, as a simple searcher with limited returns, I am grateful for your guidance on the more intricate aspects of how to get the best out of it. - Youreallycan 12:15, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the info

Limited as it is. ASCIIn2Bme (talk) 17:45, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Sure, no worries. Sometimes privacy overrides openness - Youreallycan 17:47, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Thanks for your input on the C C Patil issue. I think I want to let things sit for a while to see if stronger sources become available or if this issue just goes away. I would rather cite a single excellent source than low-level sources, as you say. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:35, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm.. baklava, love it. Thanks a lot BR, sweet indeed - best regards - Youreallycan 20:38, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi

Hi YRC, just a belated note to thank you for welcoming me back. I'm not quite up to steam yet, just dipping in here and there, heart not fully in it at the moment. But it feels quite good to be more semi-detached.

Anyway, thanks again for the note. It was nice to hear from you, and I hope this finds you well. Best, SlimVirgin 17:32, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Aw, thank you SV. Lovely flowers. Good to see you around, albeit a bit semi interested (I feel the same way - I think the project is at a bit of a watershed in regards to what its focus is) - Anyways, all things are temporary and policy is weak to defend neutrality. Its good to be disattached from such a place. Very best wishes - Youreallycan 18:42, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

I think a lot of people feel that way right now. Looking around on talk pages, I see lots of editors say they're a bit fed up, more than usual. Wonder how things will work out. SlimVirgin 19:15, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Probably end up in a court of law, closed down by a viral increase in defamation and libel claims. Youreallycan 19:40, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

3RR on Santorum

It appears you've made more than three reverts to Rick Santorum in the past 24 hours. Please undo your last revert.   Will Beback  talk  21:10, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

I will never reinsert policy violating content to a en wikipedia article - if you feel I have violated any policies - feel free to take responsibility for the issue and add the disputed content yourself Youreallycan

For feuding, edit warring false BLP assertions, and calling WBB a bigot, I am giving you a 24 hour break. If you edit in hot areas, please try harder to keep cool and avoid personal attacks, hounding, and feuding. You are very experienced and know that this style of editing is not acceptable. Jehochman 02:03, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Accusing someone of bigotry is not the same as calling them a bigot. This is not a justification for the insinuation, but from what I can see YRC was attempting to enforce BLP policy in good faith. He does not have a hound in the race and has been consistent with his positions on the BLP noticeboard. The issue was still under discussion when YRC was reverted, and the position that the "steroid" reference should not be included is backed by other users in good standing. A long term and established user like YRC should not be blocked without discussion on WP:ANI. We should not look for short-term solutions, but aim to address longer-term issues for the benefit of the project. At a time when the project has issues with editor retention, administrative discretion is strongly advised. — Nearly Headless Nick {C} 05:40, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Nick - the project is clearly dysfunctional and worthless blocks such as this are simply part of the reality of standing up against that dysfunction. Youreallycan 11:29, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

• Heres the talkpage discussion - that Jehocman has blocked me for - I never called anyone a bogot - user Willbeback completely misread one of my talkpage posts and I said, you see only your own bigotry, that is true of us all - we all interpret and see through our own eyes. This was in a usertalkpage discussion he actually butted into, he knows we don't get on and would be better avoiding me as I have been doing with him as much as possible, better that than to jump into discussions I am having on another users talkpage. Youreallycan 15:51, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

User_talk:Collect#Editors_rejecting_BLP_considerations

Editors rejecting BLP considerations

Hi Collect. I know you are a very considerate NPOV editor in regard to content additions in regard to BLP articles. Recently I have started to notice quite a few editors opposing any BLP considerations. Policy is quite strong from the foundation and Arbcom in regard to BLP and if this is not filtering through it may be necessary to return to Arbcom for further clarification - as your involved in many of the discussions, would you please log and keep an eye out for users that repeatedly oppose BLP considerations and for discussions that from your neutral BLP considerate position resulted in a POV support consensus. Youreallycan 20:36, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

User:Will Beback has joined in and User:Coffeepusher has also reverted - YGM - Youreallycan 21:16, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Is there a problem? Does a sentence on his most famous law case actually violate BLP? Will Beback talk 21:25, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

You are well aware of the good faith NPOV concerns that your desired addition as focusing unduly on one project in four years work is in violation of WP:UNDUE - User:Coffeepusher has now two reverts and is edit warring the disputed content into the BLP. Youreallycan 21:30, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Huh? Working on Misplaced Pages for four years is UNDUE? That's a very strange theory. I am well aware that you don't like me and that you and Collect follow me around Misplaced Pages opposing perfectly good edits. Will Beback talk 21:36, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Not you - read before you comment please. You see your own bigotry . I have no idea about you at all - No one is following you around, you attract investigation through your contributions - Youreallycan 21:42, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Now you're accusing me of bigotry?! Whew. Will Beback talk 21:52, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

From an NPOV position, I am disturbed by your contributions and have already pointed that out to you - I urge you moving forward take a more BLP considerate NPOV position through your contributions - Youreallycan 22:10, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

I honor and obey all of the Misplaced Pages policies. Please don't call me a bigot. I consider that to be a personal attack. Will Beback talk 22:17, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

I am disturbed by your contributions and have already pointed that out to you - I urge you moving forward take a more BLP considerate NPOV position through your contributions. - Your wiki lawyering claims of attack are just a meaningless distraction from reality. Youreallycan 22:28, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

My position on strong observance of the letter and spirit of WP:BLP should be pretty much clear. Collect (talk) 00:48, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Note: One admin posted on my UT page:

Hi Collect. I notice that you are attempting to use Misplaced Pages as a political battlefield. It isn't. Please use the normal dispute resolution channels to address any concerns, and don't be tendentious. Thank you.

Pretty much out of the blue. I think that admin may be watchlisting my page, and if so, he might well be perceived as being an "involved admin" in any acts pertaining thereto. Cheers. Collect (talk) 16:28, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Just delete his posts and ignore him - don't be tendentious and ad homin - are all part of the wiki lawyers bullshit bible. Youreallycan 04:11, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Rename at Talk:Campaign for "santorum" neologism

Hello, since you recently participated in an RfC at Campaign for "santorum" neologism, I thought you might be interested in this proposal for renaming the article, or perhaps another of the rename proposals on the page. Best, B——C_ritical 22:09, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Thaks for the note - Be critical - regards - Youreallycan 04:12, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject invite

Hello Youreallycan—it's been some time since I said hello, and thanks again for your help recently. Alas, no resolution has yet come to Global Automakers, and the tagging editors eventually abandoned it, though one of these days I'll get back to it. The real reason I'm writing, however, is to invite you to WikiProject Cooperation. The idea is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, you might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 15:09, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the invite WWb Too - I will have a look round there later - I must say, you get my person with the patience of a saint award - well done working with users towards a resolution through all that. - Youreallycan 15:15, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for saying so. I suppose if patience is a virtue, on Misplaced Pages that goes double. Hope to see you around there! WWB Too (talk) 15:27, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Rob, please...

...Disengage, log out and do something else for a couple of hours. Salvio 00:23, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

I am cool - Its shit - shit and lubrication jelly mixed - leaking out of the arse-hole after anal sex - if thats not pretty enough or promotional enough for them then excuse me. What the issue is is beyond me, they want to link it to R Santorum but they don't seem to like it referring to their lifestyle. Youreallycan 00:34, 18 February 2012 (UTC)