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Hallmark

Thanks for helping out with Hallmark of Hall of Fame movie Front of the Classs. I couldn't get the image to work for me, but it's there now and that's what counts. Also thanks for finding more sources and filling the blanks, such as summaries and plots. That's not my kind of thing. I was surprised no other user took the time to make a movie link, when Front of the Class was first announced. Especially since there's so much information out there now for Hallmark movies.

Your help is really appriciated. GiantTiger001 (talk) 07:47, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Ack! Thanks for the reminder that I was interrupted by Wikidrahmaz just as I was intending to expand that article from the sources. And thanks for getting the ball rolling. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:49, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

In a galaxy far, far away

Sandy, I am not familiar with this FAR/FARC malarky. Could you advise either here or at the review page if we are now awaiting "the featured article director or his delegates" to close the FAR, or if I should be declaring "keep" or "delist" under the FARC heading? Ben MacDui 15:06, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

I dunno ... the delegates don't seem to follow FARs closely any more, so things seem to have changed since the days when Marskell and I prodded, poked, and kept each one moving forward, letting folks know where they stand and what's needed. Yes, you should be entering a declaration at this stage. I'll try to do same as soon as I have a chance to get over there, but for now, ski slopes beckon :) Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:09, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Clarification requested

Hi Sandy, you've you made some statements that I was at one time in charge of a WEP class that has given you "the most headaches". In another area you mentioned that it was a psychology class. It's been recommended that I contact you for clarification. I've never been approached about any problems in any of the classes I have supported. And I have never been in charge of any classes. Would you mind clarifying or providing some links or examples to support your statement? I appreciate your help. Thanks and Best regards, Cind.amuse (Cindy) 00:42, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

You are listed as the online ambassador for the courses of User:MTHarden. I don't believe I said you had ever been approached; what is clear is that this program (and some of its ambassadors) don't oversee their classes, professors, students, or articles. MTHarden's fall into those categories; a more engaged online ambassador, who understands copyvio and WP:MEDRS and the importance of engaging on talk would be useful. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:40, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks for your response. While I was listed as one of three OAs for that class during the fall semester, along with a CA, I was far from in charge of that class. Online Ambassadors do not individually work in oversight of classes. The program was never designed to function in that manner. That said, we work alongside professors, Campus Ambassadors, and other Online Ambassadors to support courses and students. I actually worked with over 300 students during the fall semester. In this situation, my role included providing answers and direction when approached by students. We simply do not have the number of OAs available to function as a second instructor to the class or as individual tutors for hundreds of students. The responsibility of the CA includes reviewing the work prior to presentation on-wiki to ensure accuracy and appropriateness of content. This often doesn't happen exactly how we would wish. The role of the OA includes providing direction navigating through WP and serving as a buffer of sorts when editors or articles receive warnings. All individuals from the professor to CA to OA work together with the student in differing capacities. It is true that OAs do not oversee classes, professors, students, or articles. That is not our role. We help guide the student, but essentially, the students are responding to assignments given by their professors, with direct face-to-face support from Campus Ambassadors. We (OAs) also are often found engaging students on both talk pages and through email. Most often, students prefer discussing their articles and asking questions through email. I certainly do not shy away from either. We are not called to understand or comprehend the subject, just make sure the students have access to online materials and answers to their questions. Honestly, Sandy, I think the program would benefit from your involvement and sharing some of your ideas. When Tory Read asked me for referrals to additional individuals that could provide input, I recommended that she speak with you. While I may not always agree with your opinions, I believe that your opinion is valued and needs to be heard. I would much rather work with others, than against them. That said, I think making statements that I have personally been in charge of the single class that has given you the most headaches in the program is a bit much. In all sincerity, I would appreciate a retraction of your claims. Thanks and Best regards, Cind.amuse (Cindy) 01:05, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Physicians

Thanks for the message. I will work on the physician articles. One favor, since I cannot assess my own articles (I didn't know that was a policy but I see how it makes tons of sense), could you reassess them to start at whatever level you think they should be at? I will seek to get more sources for the article on Lopez Nussa; I agree a single source may indicate lack of notability. I will make that a priority. Could you name the ones that most attracted your attention as possibly falling into the potentially non-notable category so I work on those first? The naming conventions issue, I think I understand what you are saying but I am not sure when/how to apply it. Do you mean that the title cannot be, say, "Dr. Manuel de la Pila Iglesias", but the body of the article can occassionally contain "Dr. Pila"? Thanks very much for your comments. Mercy11 (talk) 23:26, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

One more thing, do you know what happened to the photo of Manuel de la Pila Iglesias? It was there this morning, but now it's gone. Thanks,Mercy11 (talk) 23:30, 18 March 2012 (UTC) <<<<< Never mind. It seems you mistakenly took out the "Dr." from the image name and that's what messed it up. If you also want to remove the qualifier "Dr." from the image name, I think that has to be done in the image itself. I wouln't know how to "move" an image the way we move article titles. Take care, Mercy11 (talk) 00:57, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Multiple REDIRECT Links

Hi, I was wandering if you might know how to fix the following:

Someone created an overly large number of links to the article Ponce School of Medicine. A "what links here" would show what I mean.

The following should not be redirecting to that article, because the school has never been known by those other names. However, I have no clue how to stop it (undo it):

The following are NOT OK:

• Escuela medica de ponce (redirect page) ‎ (links)
• Escuela medica de puerto rico (redirect page) ‎ (links)
• Escuela de medicina de puerto rico (redirect page) ‎ (links)
• Puerto rico medical school (redirect page) ‎ (links)
• Puerto rico medicine (redirect page) ‎ (links)
• Escuela de ponce (redirect page) ‎ (links)

The following links are ok:

• Ponce school of medicine (redirect page) ‎ (links)
• Ponce medical school (redirect page) ‎ (links)
• Escuela de medicina de ponce (redirect page) ‎ (links)
• Escuela de Medicina de Ponce (redirect page) ‎ (links)

Can you break the links of the bad (NOT OK) ones? Thanks, Mercy11 (talk) 00:49, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

MEDA

Just FYI: basically all people and all organizations are considered "Low" priority for WPMED assessments, so you can fill in that parameter if you want. WhatamIdoing (talk) 13:24, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Come join the translation taskforce

We are making good progress. Need help improving the English article to get them ready for translation though. The articles we are working on are of top importance and widely read http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:MED/Translation_project --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:11, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

May Revolution

I have nominated the article May Revolution for FAC at Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/May Revolution/archive4. As you made a review of the article in the past, it would be useful if you could check it again, as it is an obscure topic outside of Argentina and previous nominatons did not atract enough reviewers. All comments are welcome. Cambalachero (talk) 01:57, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi

Just wanted to say thank you for starting a review of the Hawking article - I'm looking forward to working with you :) And also thank you for your bump at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Physics#Stephan_Hawking - I've been having a little trouble attracting reviewers from that area :) By the way, if you can ping me a message on my talk page when you post a review that would be cool - I've got a fairly quiet week this week so should be able to get right to it… Cheers Fayedizard (talk) 23:06, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Have done a quick response to your review over at the page - thank you so much for getting involved :) As a quick side note - I notice that you've got an interest in medical articles? On that angle I might see If I can interest you in looking at dyslexia or down_syndrome? They are some of the most popular disability-related articles on the wiki, but they are sadly in need of attention - I've been hacking at them regularly over the last little while but I suspect I might be a little timid to make some of the more sweeping changes that they desperately need... Fayedizard (talk) 09:48, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Also - just to check, I've been working on the basis of inline comments to reviews, let me know if that doesn't work for you... Fayedizard (talk) 09:59, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

So as we're now off FAC :) It would be really really good if we could have a bit of a dialog for how you are looking for the article to change for it to gain FA standard. (I've added a bunch of clarifications and queries to some of the issues raised on the talk page...) The thing is - this is as much about the development of me as an editor as it is about the development of the article - you guys have got a sense what sort of rewrite an article might need to satisfy the criteria, and you've got that by working on many many many FAs - if you can give me a bit of time (probably much less than you've already spent on the article) to correspond a little about the direction it should be taken in then I'm much more likely to bring future articles to FA that are already up to scratch without any of the inefficiencies you've already talked about here... sound good? Fayedizard (talk) 21:34, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Removed these, added after close (please don't chop commentary from reviewers). You have youself a solid GA there-- sourced to reliable sources, decently written, but doesn't use the highest quality sources and isn't a compelling account of the man's life. It's not only that career and personal life are short: it's that you have to build the article from scratch from the high-quality sources. Retrofitting sources to the mediocre text that is there won't do it. Trying to honor what was there, which was piecemeal trivia added by editors over the years, won't get it to FA quality. The man deserves much more than what is there. Building an FA on a person like this will be a "labor of love", and won't be done from The Guardian or the BBC. Good luck ! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:53, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes, and sorry I didn't spot the other changes – it's past my pyjamas time. Graham Colm (talk) 22:11, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Sandy, I wanted to give you a little bit of time before I came bothering you again… (and apologies for breaking up your commentry, I'd understood the 'inline or not' to be more or less 'I don't mind') Anyway - It's not so much that I'm trying to honour the editors who've gone before that is causing me problems - that would only be a problem for this particular article - the thing that's praying on my mind a little bit is this: if I were to take the article away and take a load of stuff out, and put a load of stuff back in - then I'm effectively just making random changes - because I've (demonstrably) not got a decent sense of the way that the FA criteria are interpreted, then I've also not got any real insight into why this article didn't make it…

So if I were to rewrite the article without any guidence, then I suspect that it would end up being futher away from the standard because I'll be viewing everything though my lens. Is it at all possible to open up a dialog on any of the clarifications I made before your reverted them? Or even is there someone you can recommend that does have a good sense of what makes an article FA able? If someone can show me how you experienced editors are interpreting the guidelines then I can start bringing you FA after FA after FA - otherwise it looks like the message I'm taking away from this is more or less that I should stick to faffing around on small articles rather than producing high quality content. Does that make sense?

Dan Leno

The article on Dan Leno has been nominated for Featured Article consideration here. Leno was a leading star of music hall, Victorian burlesque and pantomime. We would welcome your comments, if you have time. Happy editing! -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:35, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Robert Degos

I need a better explanation why "Robert Degos" was removed.

I gave full references to all the material that was in the page I created (two main references: namely "Who named it" and a blurb freely available to the public from the Universite Paris Descartes) - "Degos disease" is in fact an entry in Misplaced Pages and so there was an internal link to it. The books section is in fact my own addition. If I forgot a quotation mark on the SCIENTIFIC explanation of the syndrome you could have added them WITHOUT removing the entire page.

Robert Degos is a famous French dermatologist, the material is all academic, in fact his entry is also necessary as it connects with other entries in Misplaced Pages (at least 4). You could have flagged what looked like "copyrighted material" but BEFORE removing it I would have appreciated that you INQUIRE first. (I am not a "newcomer" to wikipedia, I've already created many pages which have been translated into many languages).

Thanks,

JAR (talk) 16:53, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Removing WP:COPYVIO isn't something subject to "inquiry first", and providing a citation doesn't excuse or permit lifting wording from the source; the explanation for copyvio is on your talk. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:55, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Your answer is a tautology. My question was very precise. If it was the description of the syndrome (a very complicated one) that troubled you then a quotation mark would have sufficed (and my apologies for omitting/forgetting them). The rest was edited and rephrased and not taken verbatim. In any case, the description of Degos as "succeeding Prof X at the Hopital Saint Louis" is common knowledge (thus its wide circulation and availability on the website of the Universite Paris Descartes, it is certainly NOT "copyrighted material" from "Who named it"!!). In any case it was not even taken verbatim! The fact that I forgot to add quotation marks for the description of the syndrome happens all the time and that is precisely why we need your collaboration and continuous patrolling. JAR (talk) 18:57, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Help!

Hey Sandy, hope all is well. I'm coming to you with this question because you seem to know what you're doing and you've been helpful in the past.

I've been trying to get more involved in Wiki editing and have started doing a bunch of New Page Patrolling. I would also like to help out w/ some of the backlogs, but I'm a bit confused about the process. For example, I go to the backlogged section of I find pages tagged w/ this as far back as 2007 with no real movement or changes. What do I do then? Start a Talk section that will likely be ignored (as the page has barely been visited)? Mark it for deletion, even if it's not an area I'm sufficiently familiar with? Obviously, if I can just fix the page that's the way to go. But, if a page has had this type of tag for months or years and I agree it should be deleted, should I then just nominate it for deletion?

Thanks!JoelWhy (talk) 16:55, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

hey! As someone told me recently, new page patrol is mind-numbing, soul-crushing work. He was right :) On unclear notability, first you have to do the homework of figuring out if the article is notable (so you won't embarrass yourself by prodding or AFDing something obvious :) If you are sure they aren't notable, then see WP:PROD or WP:CSD, because quite often they will be copyvios. Some will be targets for a merge or redirect, some will need to go to AFD, some may be prodded, and copyvios or attack pages can be CSD'd. NPP is a hard place to work ... are you sure you want to start with notability? I've been following User:AlexNewArtBot/VenezuelaSearchResult and User:AlexNewArtBot/MedicineSearchResult-- perhaps you'll take up following new Venezuela articles? They're mostly useless sports stubs, for which I haven't yet investigated notability- I've no idea if most of those meet notability, and decided it was more work than I wanted to take on. If you pop some samples here when you're unsure, I'll try to help. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:41, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

On the occasions I've done it I've found NPP to be quite therapeutic. For instance, you have to do a little research before prodding or initiating an AfD, but the only requirement of a new article is that it makes a plausible case for the notability of its subject. If it doesn't then it can be CSD'd with a clear conscience. Malleus Fatuorum 17:30, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

The problem is, in the medical realm, I'm not content to stop at that, and end up spending hours and days cleaning them up so they're not dangerously bad! But also in the hope that new editors will learn correct sourcing and organization of medical articles. And ... I found tons of copyvio. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:33, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

NPP is a pretty broad-meshed net, just designed to catch the obvious problems really. But I remember doing much the same thing myself last year after I'd tagged Loutro, Messenia for speedy deletion, believing it to be the same place as Palaio Loutro (or it might have been the other way around). I spent hours poring over maps and checking sources. Malleus Fatuorum 17:41, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Dr. Karel Styblo

I have taken your advice and rewritten, in my own words, a short biography on Dr. Karel Styblo. I hope this will suffice for posting and will work to Wikify it. Thanks for your guidance on this topic. Thanks. --Anderton (talk) 17:36, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

I've done some cleanup to conform with Misplaced Pages guidelines and policies, but you didn't cite any sources. Please review WP:V. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:36, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Just wanted to say that I've watched what you've done on this article over the last few hours, and I'm pretty impressed. I've been following this article since its earlier incarnation as a pure copyvio. Still learning from you. :-) Stigmatella aurantiaca (talk) 13:14, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! The first two versions were copyvio from a non-reliable source (scienceheroes.com), but when I saw the third reincarnation tagged for notability, and found reliable sources discussing how important the fellow was, I became fascinated with his story. I wish someone with journal access could locate the missing sources, so the article could be finished.

1. PMID 1813098
2. PMID 1687506
3. doi:10.1136/thoraxjnl-2011-201054c.61

And, wow ... does Directly Observed Therapy – Short Course need work !!

I'm glad you're still around and still learning: the dismal work of patrolling new pages is made worthwhile by encountering A Few Good Editors. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:30, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Sandy, I have access to the last one (in Thorax). Would you like me to e-mail it to you? Dana boomer (talk) 15:42, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)I'll request the other two for you at wp:WRE. LeadSongDog come howl! 15:45, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! (Alternately, if they add little to nothing new, no need for me to get hold of them, or y'all could just add any small tidbits.) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:08, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

I can also get them for you, but it will take a few days before I have time to visit the university library. Seems like the others here will get them to you first. Stigmatella aurantiaca (talk) 17:05, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:09, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Update at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Resource_Exchange/Resource_Request#Dr._Karel_Styblo: It's held in the Royal Danish Library at Copenhagen University. Should be available internationally from them.LeadSongDog come howl! 19:10, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks ... ummmm ... I guess that means someone there needs to get it? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:14, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Sandy, I thought I still had your e-mail, but it seems to have gone AWOL. Would you mind sending me an e-mail so that I can attach the file in a return letter. Dana boomer (talk) 17:24, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

I have a new gmail for my new post-FAC life and I still have my old one for old friends ... I'll email you from the old one :) Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:27, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

I just created John Crofton, but he was knighted, and I don't know how to handle that in titles, naming, etc. Guess I shoulda paid more attention over the years, but I left that to Dr Kiernan. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:09, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

As I tried to say on my talk page, I think it's down to how people would generally refer to him, as "John Crofton" or "Sir John Crofton". Alex Ferguson, who is almost invariably referred to as "Sir Alex", is another example. Malleus Fatuorum 18:15, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

Hello! A BIG BIG THANK YOU!! The FARC of Kolkata was closed, and the article remains FA. Your help and guidance were instrumental. Thanks a ton, again. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:10, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

You're most welcome-- I've owed you forever :) I apologize for running out of steam and dropping the ball there during my FAC "trial by fire"-- got kinda tired of whole FA business after how I was treated. But I'll bounce back ! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:12, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

You better had lady! Malleus Fatuorum 17:25, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes, we hope you bounce back ASAP.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:38, 29 March 2012 (UTC)