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Binomials and common names

Hi there. Please try to leave the binomial in place when adding a common name, like so. Cheers, mgiganteus1 (talk) 19:49, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Fish taxonomy

Hi, Myliobatiformes is recognized as a valid order by almost all current sources, based on strong phylogenetic evidence. The reason that FishBase doesn't list it is because it sources that part of its taxonomy to Last and Stevens (1994), and no one has yet updated it because the site is mostly run by volunteers. I've made a proposal to address the taxonomic issue here and your input would be appreciated. For the time being however, would you be willing to hold off on changing the higher-level fish taxonomies? I don't believe that FishBase reflects the most accurate taxonomy available. -- Yzx (talk) 00:40, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Since I haven't had any response to my proposal, I think I'm just going to make the changes to the Fish Project guidelines. Since this affects you, do you have any thoughts before I do this? -- Yzx (talk) 18:43, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for asking my input. My main interest, as you may have noticed is more along the lines of the actual taxon authorities rather than the taxonomy, though I do try to make some corrections regarding species as I find them. If you feel that there is another, more accurate, resource out there, I have no issues with that and it would help to have a single resource that everyone is working from. -- Divingpetrel (talk) 19:47, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

An Award for You

		The Exceptional Newcomer Award
		I Anna Frodesiak (talk), hereby present to you this lovely award for your excellent contributions. Keep up the good work! :)

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:46, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Anna, Thank you for the award. It is nice to know that the work is appreciated. Again, thanks. Divingpetrel (talk) 17:31, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Can barnstars be seconded? If not, well, maybe I should give you another one... Wonderful stuff, thank you. Gurt Posh (talk) 22:24, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Gurt.

Autopatrolled?

Hi, I've been noticing over a period of time that you create a bunch of decent stubs. I'd be glad to grant to you the status of "autopatrolled", which actually mainly affects new page patrollers rather than you. Shall I? LadyofShalott 04:06, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

I am assuming that the page patrollers are looking for unacceptable content? That would be fine with me. Thank you.

 Done :) LadyofShalott 16:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Page moves

Hi Divingpetrel, please see Help:How to move a page. Melchoir (talk) 03:49, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. I am getting ready to knock off for the night and will review this on the morrow.Divingpetrel (talk) 03:59, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

No prob! I've fixed up Nemacheilus scaturigina, Triplophysa paradoxa, Schistura multifasciata, Nemacheilus kullmanni, Schistura himachalensis, Schistura baluchiorum, Angora loach, and Afronemacheilus abyssinicus. I think that's all. Melchoir (talk) 04:13, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Melchior. I gave it a try with Nemacheilus sikmaiensis - Schistura sikmaiensis. Much easier than what I was doing. Thanks for the advice and assistance.

Glad I could help! :-) Melchoir (talk) 21:20, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Interlanguage links

Hello again! That's a lot of cyprinids. I've noticed that for most of the articles you're working on, there are already mirror articles in Catalan and Spanish, and sometimes other languages as well. I went back and added interlanguage links where I could, from Delminichthys through Leucalburnus satunini. I just found the links by Googling, for example, "Gobiocypris rarus site:wikipedia.org -site:en.wikipedia.org".

If it's not too much trouble, I wonder if you could add these links to future articles yourself? I'm sure our Spanish friends would appreciate the help! Thanks, Melchoir (talk) 03:36, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Sure, I will work on it. I believe that an easier method would be to just Google Misplaced Pages and that takes you to a page where you can search all language versions of Misplaced Pages without all of the extra typing. I have used that extensively in the past. ThanksDivingpetrel (talk) 00:30, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

New Page Patrol survey

New page patrol – Survey Invitation Hello Divingpetrel! The WMF is currently developing new tools to make new page patrolling much easier. Whether you have patrolled many pages or only a few, we now need to know about your experience. The survey takes only 6 minutes, and the information you provide will not be shared with third parties other than to assist us in analyzing the results of the survey; the WMF will not use the information to identify you. If this invitation also appears on other accounts you may have, please complete the survey once only. If this has been sent to you in error and you have never patrolled new pages, please ignore it. Please click HERE to take part. Many thanks in advance for providing this essential feedback. You are receiving this invitation because you have patrolled new pages. For more information, please see NPP Survey

Pteronotropis

I'm posting this message on your talk page because I noticed that you've recently created the new article Pteronotropis--The content seems well-organized.However, I noticed there are some holes that may need filling: the article does not contain in-line citations, and so doesn't follow Misplaced Pages style guidelines. Jipinghe (talk) 03:59, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Weird changes in fish articles

Do you have any idea who's pasting all kinds of weird stuff into fish stubs? I've spotted three so far: Luxilus coccogenis, Popeye Shiner‎, and Etheostoma neopterum. It seems to be class-work. Anyway, it looks like you're active on a lot of fish articles, so I thought I'd ask you about it. Thanks.— alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 01:13, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

I really don't know who that individual is. I generally do not deal with conservation information, dealing mostly with taxonomic considerations, particularly the identity of the taxon authorities as well as range information where I either create the article or feel that it would help improve the article.Divingpetrel (talk) 01:23, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

OK, sorry to bother you with it. Keep up the great work!— alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 01:25, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

No problem. Thank you.Divingpetrel (talk) 01:30, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Pyrrhulina

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Proposed deletion of Pyrrhulina

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Contested. LadyofShalott 13:29, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Lady. This has been going on for a few days now. I fail to understand what Historian is doing. I checked the link to Fishbase that I included in the article and it takes me to a list of Pyrrhulina species, I Googled "Pyrrhulina" and came up with plenty of references including Fishbase, aquarist sites, Encyclopedia of Life, and scientific papers that all refer to it. I hope that it is an honest mistake, but twice?.Divingpetrel (talk) 01:07, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm almost hoping he'll take it to AfD. I did a Google book search on Pyrrhulina earlier - there's no lack of sources we can use if need be. There seem to be some other odd edits from the account as well. LadyofShalott 01:17, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

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This tag was applied in error - ispecies copied my work (almost immediately after I posted it) and even credited it as having come from Misplaced Pages (might want to change search bot parameters).Divingpetrel (talk) 19:32, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

New articles

		The Bio-star
		Thanks for increasing Misplaced Pages coverage of Biology-related topics with your creation of the new pages Dolichancistrus and Etsaputu relictum. Your efforts are greatly appreciated. Northamerica1000 02:49, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank youDivingpetrel (talk) 03:09, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Synodontis euptera

Thanks for sorting that out. I wasn't quite sure what to do about it. CarrieVS (talk) 19:32, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Your Welcome.

Loricariid taxonomy

Hi, I see you have made several changes to loricariid taxonomy based on FishBase. However, FishBase is at odds with what current taxonomists follow in the Loricariidae. FishBase references Ferraris 2007, the checklist of catfishes, a work that was outdated on its date of publication in terms of loricariids. This publication does not follow Armbruster 2004 (on phylogenetics of Hypostominae) because Armbruster 2004 was simply published too late to be included in this checklist. Therefore, many of the changes you have included do not follow what loricariid taxonomists currently follow. Please refer to Armbruster's loricariid taxa list found here: http://www.auburn.edu/academic/science_math/res_area/loricariid/fish_key/TAXALIST/taxalist.html as well as PlanetCatfish, an aquarist website that also follows up-to-date taxonomy (based on Armbruster's work). Although his website is still outdated, it is more up to date than Ferraris 2007 and even includes some of the text from his publications. MiltonT (talk) 21:19, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Milton, Thank you for the information, however I am pretty much done with loricariids except for new species. I know that people take issue with Fishbase and I also am aware that taxonomy, whether for fish, flies or fungi, will always remain a contentious matter, but for my purposes Fishbase works quite well and there are several out-of-date articles out there. It is constantly updated, covers every family of fish and, most importantly for me, provides comparatively detailed information regarding original sources and taxon authorities. I have to go now, so I again thank you for your message.Divingpetrel (talk) 23:58, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Smile!

Smile!

A smile for you You’ve just received a random act of kindness! Mike Restivo (talk) 17:03, 2 April 2012 (UTC)