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*Preferably '''keep''' as per ], and focus article on his work in ]. His NDP candidacy does not deserve more than a passing reference. Otherwise, '''merge'''. I also agree with ]. ] 05:32, 12 April 2006 (UTC) *'''keep''' Preferably as per ], and focus article on his work in ]. His NDP candidacy does not deserve more than a passing reference. Otherwise, '''merge'''. I also agree with ]. ] 05:32, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
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I hope this is enough evidence, but if you want more, I can find more. Theonlyedge, as I see it, is the sockpuppet that does the dirty work for Pm_shef. He comes out of hibernation when needed, like a trusty administrative assistant. ] 12:39, 17 April 2006 (UTC) I hope this is enough evidence, but if you want more, I can find more. Theonlyedge, as I see it, is the sockpuppet that does the dirty work for Pm_shef. He comes out of hibernation when needed, like a trusty administrative assistant. ] 12:39, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

:For the benefit of all, I decided to investigate this despite my doubts. These two are ''definitely'' not sockpuppets. Admittedly, their contributions are similar. However, from 21:41 to 22:05 on April 11, Theonlyedge's made about 14 edits to ] and related pages, trying to create an AfD on this article. He was fairly inept about it; earlier on he had tried to mark the article with {{tl|delete}], but reverted himself; he created ] in addition to this page, and he never listed this AfD in the Log of AfDs. Pm_shef, on the other hand, from 21:43 to 22:06 on the same date, was very busy, making 22 edits, and nominating several other articles for AfD correctly and cleanly, and then informing other users about them at ]. Pm_shef used edit summaries for virtually every one of those edits, while Theonlyedge only used one edit summary. Furthermore, how could they have both been so active over a period of 30 minutes if they were the same person? ] 15:48, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

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Simon Strelchik

Delete. I think that this article deals with someone who, while likely a very nice person, is not publically significant enough to justify a page on Misplaced Pages. Strelchik is a failed political candidate, and, according to the article, a rights activist in Thornhill. However, his article is so overwhelmingly for him, that it makes me dizzy. Whenever it is changed to make it at least somewhat neutral and acceptable, these edits are reverted. But even without this, there are many more 'important' people, and I use the word lightly, who are better suited to a page on this website. I even created this article, but now realize it was wrong. Theonlyedge 22:02, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Note: See Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Simon Strelchik for prior debate. Bearcat 00:14, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

QUESTION: How long does an article go through this process before it is deleted or kept? Theonlyedge 12:24, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

One week. Bearcat 15:50, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Comment Are you thinking of Save the Children? Free The Children sounds like a good charity, but they're not the same. Mangojuice 14:20, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Commenthe means what he said Free the Children not Save the Children. Freethe children is one of the top humanitarian organizations in the world and Strelchik was one of the founding directors.--69.158.181.37 18:34, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep This article arlready won the deletion debate to keep, also, the nominater is Theonlyedge is Alan Shefman (pm_shef's father and former opponent of Strelchik in the 2000 municipal election) --67.70.150.98 23:08, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Note, above is this user's first edit on Misplaced Pages. User's second edit was to place a defamation of character warning on Theonlyedge's user page. Mangojuice 03:38, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Based on the user's edit history (iPod? Prime Minister of France? Eric Reguly?) and userpage bio ("I live in Toronto"), I don't buy that. I also find it highly unlikely that a politician would willingly write up Misplaced Pages articles about his own electoral opponents. Show some proof or retract the assertion. Bearcat 19:32, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
there are lots of connections as theonlyedge either being Alan Shefman himself or a sockpuppet of Pm shef, first the name "edge" is the same name as shefman's company, they both were attack the same oppenents and have info that only they would know, appears to be politicaly motivated. being from the vaughan area myself they both (if not the same person) have been doing similer practices outside of wikipedia.
Let's try this again: Theonlyedge wrote this article up in the first place. Can you give me one remotely convincing reason why Alan Shefman would willingly write up an article about one of his political opponents? Bearcat 22:32, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
I know you must be very frustrated with all the non-sense but the reason he originally wrote it had to do with 1) the federal election and 2) when the Alan Shefman article was up for deletion to show an opponent that he beat had an article. It is a real shame that the wike admins. don't have all the info. about this group. I don't think you realize, the non-sense that this group that the shefman's are in, causes here in vaughan. Mark my words, one day soon, you will read about a major scandal coming from Vaughan area politicians that not only include shefman but also there "king pins" De Biase, Kadis, Sorbara, Bevilaqua and there realife puppets, like shefman, ferri and many more
The only other activity from this IP is accusing user:pm_shef and user:Theonlyedge of being sockpuppets of each other (with no evidence). I am >95% that this is the same user as User:67.70.150.98 who has voted above. Thryduulf 00:17, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Only edits are here. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 02:45, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Evidence that Theonlyedge is a sockpuppet of Pm_shef

1. After Alan Shefman's son User:Pm_shef writes that he will abstain from editing articles related to Vaughan politics, and confirmed that abstention at 05:55, 11 April 2006 here, "Theonlyedge" goes after Pm_shef's longtime Vaughan target (who he nominated for the AfD a month prior) a few hours later, at 22:02, 11 April 2006 here. Coincidence?

2. The name of Pm_shef's father's company is simply The Edge. It is involved in anti-racism, which we know Pm_shef/ Corey Shefman has been involved in too, both personally and through his edits. The Edge sounds a lot like The Only Edge... a coincidence? See main link to his father's bread-and-butter for 25 years:

3. Roughly 50% of all Theonlyedge's edits are also articles that Pm_shef has edited. Compare Pm_shef's contributions to Theonlyedge's contributions.

4. Both accounts in question were created within 5 weeks of one another; Pm_shef on Oct 31 2005, TheOnlyEdge on Dec 11 2005.

5. 4 hours after Pm_shef nominates this article for deletion (which he ultimately lost), Theonlyedege comes around and does NOT vote Keep or Delete but rather, after two consecutive Keep votes, adds a comment that the article should be shortened to 2 or 3 paragraghs. This was Shef's way of cutting his losses. See original AfD Keep debate: ].

6. Both users are from Thornhill, as they have both have edited the article on Thornhill and are obsessed with their politicians.

7. Both are obsessed with adding positive POV edits to their favorites Susan Kadis (as well as Michael Di Biase) and negative edits/blanking to their political competitor Mario Racco and political opponents Anthony Reale, Tina Molinari and Josh Cooper.

8. Why did Pm_shef / Theonlyedge create this article on a previous opponent? So that he can control it. He can keep it down to 2 or 3 sentences and maintain control over content.

I hope this is enough evidence, but if you want more, I can find more. Theonlyedge, as I see it, is the sockpuppet that does the dirty work for Pm_shef. He comes out of hibernation when needed, like a trusty administrative assistant. Leotardo 12:39, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

For the benefit of all, I decided to investigate this despite my doubts. These two are definitely not sockpuppets. Admittedly, their contributions are similar. However, from 21:41 to 22:05 on April 11, Theonlyedge's made about 14 edits to Simon Strelchik and related pages, trying to create an AfD on this article. He was fairly inept about it; earlier on he had tried to mark the article with {{tl|delete}], but reverted himself; he created Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Simon Strelchik 2 in addition to this page, and he never listed this AfD in the Log of AfDs. Pm_shef, on the other hand, from 21:43 to 22:06 on the same date, was very busy, making 22 edits, and nominating several other articles for AfD correctly and cleanly, and then informing other users about them at Misplaced Pages:Canadian wikipedians' notice board. Pm_shef used edit summaries for virtually every one of those edits, while Theonlyedge only used one edit summary. Furthermore, how could they have both been so active over a period of 30 minutes if they were the same person? Mangojuice 15:48, 17 April 2006 (UTC)