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Another WP:CRYSTAL, non-notable promotional que sera sera article. Please show the exciting second party coverage to maintain this in article space. CaptainScreebo 18:57, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

I have just added a GameSpot UK reference to the article. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 19:00, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes, very in depth thanks. CaptainScreebo 19:12, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

• Keep—Third party coverage found: , , and probably more, if I kept searching... Livit⇑/_What? 19:23, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Great, two fanboy gamer, "i ejaculate when someone sends me a promo video of a soon to be announced game", sites announcing the game. Have you read the notability guidelines or WP:CRYSTAL, sick of linking to them, do some research yourself, and take your trivia elsewhere. CaptainScreebo 19:37, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Quite the jerk, aren't you. SL93 (talk) 23:46, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm entitled to my opinion, are you aware that Misplaced Pages has a policy called no personal attacks? CaptainScreebo 09:57, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

You crossed out part of your comment, but "Have you read the notability guidelines or WP:CRYSTAL, sick of linking to them, do some research yourself, and take your trivia elsewhere." is rude as well especially because Livitup has been editing longer than you have. SL93 (talk) 15:03, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I have replied at WQA as you are probably aware, I was not implying that Livit is a fanboy gamer who etc. etc. and I struck my comment and apologized for the overreaction. As you were informed at WQA responding to someone's perceived incivility with out and out insults will result in both sides being blocked. So I have replaced the tag and ask you kindly not to remove it, as I have chosen to ignore this personal attack, everybody got a bit heated, and I am willing to assume good faith but do not restore your text, thanks. CaptainScreebo 16:15, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

I crossed it out which is the same thing. Stop removing my comment. SL93 (talk) 16:20, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

No it's not. Insisting on putting it back is akin to making the attack, especially when I have said I am willing to AGF and forget about it. From WP:NPA: On other talk pages, especially where such text is directed against you, removal should typically be limited to clear-cut cases where it is obvious the text is a true personal attack. The (Personal attack removed) template can be used for this purpose. As this is the case, I request that you leave the template in place and refrain from making such attacks in the future. CaptainScreebo 16:28, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

• Keep—I've never heard of this game, but there's third party coverage popping up everywhere. Zach Vega (talk to me) 05:22, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions. (G·N·B·S·RS·Talk) • Gene93k (talk) 02:40, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:41, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

• Keep - Plenty of coverage out there. I'd suggest the nominator look over WP:BEFORE and WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Sergecross73 msg me 05:45, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Yes, thanks, to the two previous posters, it would be helpful if you posted some links to these masses of third-party coverage. From WP:GNG:
    • "Significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail, ... Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention
    • "Reliable" means sources need editorial integrity to allow verifiable evaluation of notability, per the reliable source guideline
  • So I'm not really seeing either of those, I apologize for my overreaction above, but all I'm seeing are a bunch of screenshots, and a couple of lines announcing the product on a majority of sites which are, more or less, gaming blogs, and a bunch of videos on DailyMotion and YouTube.
  • From WP:CRYSTAL:
    • Misplaced Pages is not a collection of product announcements and rumors. While Misplaced Pages includes up-to-date knowledge about newly revealed products, short articles that consist only of product announcement information are not appropriate.
  • That's all. CaptainScreebo 10:18, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
    • Strategy Informer
    • Rock Paper Shotgun
    • IGN
    • GameSpy
    • Destructoid
      • All sites have prior consensus at Wikiproject Video Games at WP:VG/S as useable sources. Sergecross73 msg me 15:17, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
    • Spacesector.com - I'm not familiar with the website, but seems to be written okay, and rather detailed information about the game. Sergecross73 msg me 15:30, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Fine, if that's the criteria for including soon-to-be-released video games. I'm still not seeing in-depth coverage just trivial, game plot summaries and so on. And my initial reaction was also influenced by the fact that the article originally had about ten links to Camel101's website (as refs, external links) etc. so I assumed this to be another "let's plug our obscure game in development on WP". Try new page patrolling sometime, and see the stuff that you encounter. CaptainScreebo 16:20, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
• Keep GameSpot and Strategy Informer are proper sources to note it is being taken seriously versus other indie-developers. While it may be a bit early (as the game as not released) I see no reason in deleting the page at this point under WP:CRYSTAL as it is reliable, sourced and essentially a given that the game will release in May. The articles may have his indie status pegged pretty well, but this is definitely notable and it would only be a waste to delete it only to have it be recreated in less then a month from now when it actually hits stores. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 15:40, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

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