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Hello! If you've come here to ask about the speed of my article creations, please note that my article creation is manual and I do it by hand; I just happen to be fast and energetic. This has been discussed at WP:AN, and it is found that my red link destroying career is considered a problem.

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P.R.C. townships, again

Hi there! It is good of course that articles on township-level divisions of many Chinese provinces are being created. (I created a few in my day as well, e.g. Sandouping). However, it is highly desirable that already at the creation stages, we provide some correct information and no incorrect (or misleading) info. Here's a rather typical first edit to such a recently created article: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Shijing_Subdistrict&diff=481840099&oldid=479335040

As one can see, it is at least desirable that...

• If you have a link to something like List of township-level divisions of Fujian, let's make sure it points to the right province.
• It is desirable that each article for a township-level division indicates what county-level division (county, county-level city, district) this township-level division is.
• It is desirable that the name in Chinese characters be provided. I see that you're using a link to a Chinese resource, http://www.xzqh.org/html/gu/ (which, unfortunately, is not accessible at the moment - I assume you have a locally cached version); so I presume that the name of each township is given in Chinese characters in that source, isn't it?
• Many townships already have an article on zh.wiki, so the interwiki ought to be provided where appropriate.
• Many articles for county-level divisions already have lists of the county's township-level divisions. I feel that if you take the trouble to create all those township articles, you ought to at least take a look at the article for the "parent" county-level entity and wikify the township list, or, if it is not there, create it.
• Also, when creating new articles you ought to check for the same name used elsewhere (Heshi, Longchuan County, Guangdong; Heshi, Quanzhou; Heshi, Iran) and create a disambiguation pages when appropriate.
• You may consider adding more useful categories to each category besides Category:Township-level divisions of Fujian etc. There are probably many hundreds township-level divisions in each province, and many dozens in each of its prefectures. Each prefecture already has - or ought to have - its own cat, e.g. Category:Quanzhou. One can place each township of Quanzhou directly into Category:Quanzhou, but it may "flood" it, making it hard to find other, non-township articles in Category:Quanzhou. So perhaps creating something like Category:Township-level divisions of Quanzhou, and making it a subcat of both Category:Quanzhou and Category:Township-level divisions of Fujian won't be amiss.

This of course may reduce the rate at which new articles are created, but will make them at least marginally useful.

With best regards, -- Vmenkov (talk) 04:35, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. I know that I have made a few mistakes in the past and I have corrected them quickly when I found out about them. The xzqh website is broken at the moment but I have used another source through Google Translate, so either way it works. I do understand that using these methods you gave me does slow down the speed that the articles would be created, however I really don't want to harm the speed. I can usually create 100 articles in around ten minutes and I usually create 200 a day or 1200 a week if I'm lucky and if I have enough time. I'll see if I can fix some of those links you've showed me and create some extra categories. User:Guerrilla of the Renmin has also created many disambiguation pages for Chinese townships and has thankfully created hundreds of red links! Regards, Jaguar (talk) 15:31, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

"... however I really don't want to harm the speed" - in other words, you want to see as many township articles created within a given time period as possible; or, conversely, to minimize the per-article article creation cost. I am not going to argue against your goals - I appreciate that the creation of numerous articles is, apparently, a goal of yours. However, I suggest considering not just the cost of "creating" a micro-stub article, but the total cost of creating an article and making it somewhat useful for our readership. Low-content articles like this http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Shuitou,_Nan%27an,_Fujian&oldid=478445220 can be created by a simple bot script, and, really, convey less information to the reader than what can be found in List of township-level divisions of Fujian. So what I would suggest is that instead of creating articles by hand, perhaps you can look into the bot script language, and learn how to write a somewhat more complicated scripts. A somewhat useful script could e.g. take a data list of the kind found in List of township-level divisions of Fujian, and create an article for each township that would contain several additional pieces of information (Chinese character spelling, zh: interwiki if available, the name of the county-level units...) There will be some learning stage of course, and some bureaucratic issues, but ultimately the project may result in the creation of a greater number of stub articles, each with somewhat more useful info than the current micro-stubs do. -- Vmenkov (talk) 18:32, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Ah, when it comes to bot scripts and language like that I don't have a clue, but I wouldn't mind having a User:JaguarBot at my disposal! I fear that would create too many arguements with the people at WP:BAG, since you have to approach them carefully when you mass-create articles like me. Any article I can create can of course be expanded by any Chinese reader, and if they can come across an article they can write about it there. If it's a content issue you are worrying about, I can extend the wording of the article, add a few more links and create a new category like you had suggested above. Jaguar (talk) 18:49, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Smile!

A smile for you You’ve just received a random act of kindness! 66.87.0.230 (talk) 17:35, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

OK! Jaguar (talk) 19:49, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Your new stubs

Hello my friend. I try to keep an eye on Hainan-related articles. I am wondering if you have a list of any of the new stubs that are about Hainan, so I can add navboxes, or photos for the infoboxes. Many thanks if you can help. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:12, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Sure, the whole list of townships in Hainan can be found at List of township-level divisions of Hainan. That's where I create all the villages in China! Regards, Jaguar (talk) 09:58, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. Actually, I have those bookmarked. I was wondering about new ones you just created. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:17, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

That was the list of new ones I created as I only create townships in China. All those blue links there were the new stubs that I had created, unless you're asking for something else? Regards Jaguar (talk) 12:14, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I see. I understand now. Sorry. Thank you for you help. And thank you for starting the stubs. I will do my best to expand them where I can. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:25, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for expanding them! It's about time that those articles were expanded, as there are thousands more to come! ;) Jaguar (talk) 19:24, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

CSVLoader

Making you aware of this excellent tool:

• User:Ganeshk/CSVLoader

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:07, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

That's incredible, thank you! That will save me from getting arthritis when I'm older! Jaguar (talk) 11:15, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. And Ganeshk is very helpful. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:08, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

He is, and I think I understand how to use that CSV script now, but I still don't know if doing it manual is faster - or there could be something in AWB I haven't found out yet. I know that Ganeshbot has created 19,000 articles! Jaguar (talk) 21:55, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Dongzhi Subdistrict

You've forgotten to change the province.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:57, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, fixed! Jaguar (talk) 18:59, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

"Dongzhi Subdistrict (Chinese: ?) is a township-level division situated in the Harbin district of Hainan, China" - so is it in Harbin (Heilongjiang) or in Hainan, after all? -- Vmenkov (talk) 04:02, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

It's in Heilongjiang, I forgot to copy and paste in those links. Jaguar (talk) 11:38, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Happy to be of help. AWB should fix it up in no time. :-)

Incidentally, thanks for creating all of these Chinese subdivision articles - they are greatly needed, and go a long way to helping plug a large hole in our coverage. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:46, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

There we are - all finished. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:57, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

New article stubs, Chinese townships etc.

Hi, I'm sure that you're acting in good faith in creating a vast number of new stub articles on Chinese townships and other administrative subdivisions but there are some issues with these that need to be addressed to avoid compromising the quality of Misplaced Pages.

Because pinyin can be ambiguous, creating a stub article without the associated Chinese characters can require a lot of work for a subsequent editor to work out what they are. For example, your article Wenru could be 文缛， 文儒， 温儒 or a host of others (actually it is 文儒).
Staying with the Wenru example, this is a township, not a subdistrict as it says in the infobox. There is also no mention of which county it is in (Chengmai County), which is really a minimum requirement for articles of this sort otherwise they serve no useful purpose. There are also a couple of issues with the reference link; it should have a more meaningful title and should point to the actual page that (in this case), Wenru appears on - I can't find any reference to it. You also need to fix the date issue using subst - at the moment the date displayed is today's date according to the user's browser, which is incorrect. In general, piping through Google translate is not best practice as it is not always accurate.

I haven't looked at all the articles you have created but Limin Subdistrict for example says that it is in Hainan, which is plain wrong. Shiren, Harbin has the same problem and there may be others.

Please address these issues before creating any more article stubs.

Best Regards, ► Philg88 ◄ 07:16, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

I agree. In fact, I really could use the Chinese spelling. A number of these stubs really confuse me. I was not sure how they fit into the picture and went looking for sources, etc. I came up empty. Thanks. And thanks Phil for pointing this out too. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:27, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for both of your concerns. I've already addressed some of those issues (there's an older post above). I know that I do make mistakes sometimes like for example I forgot to change the province from Hainan to Heloijjang, but they are always speedily fixed by me or if not other users. Also, I know that sometimes the references lead to Google Translate (I think that's a mistake where I translated the page to read), but it still links to the correct reference. I'll fix that {{currentdatemonthyear}} that are ussed on the articles. Regards Jaguar (talk) 13:38, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the comments on board Jaguar but please don't leave mistakes in the articles you've created for other editors to correct. There is a danger that articles with errors will mislead users as well as detracting from the overall quality of Misplaced Pages so it's best that you fix them before moving on to something else. All the best, ► Philg88 ◄ 14:16, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

I do correct most of them myself; but before I move on and create more I will double check if there are any more mistakes, and I will fix them. Thanks, Jaguar (talk) 16:02, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	Great Job creating stubs, Keep it up Solomon7968 (talk) 16:19, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much! :) Jaguar (talk) 19:17, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Article Creation

How are you making them so quick? You're doing like 15 a minute. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 18:59, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

I try to aim to do at least 250 a day, should take around half an hour. My article creation is manual, all it takes is a fast enough browser that can handle creating lots of tabs and deleting them etc. Regards Jaguar (talk) 19:03, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

What browser do you use? I've got a line-up of 11700+ articles to do manually, and Safari is too slow. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 19:05, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm using Google Chrome at the moment because my computer is broke. It's faster deleting the tabs, but slower creating them! I usually use Firefox because it's always the fastest and can always create tabs faster. Jaguar (talk) 19:06, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

I have to make sure not to fill up New Pages. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 19:10, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah same with me but I only create all these articles for a certain amount of time. Sure it does flood New Pages but after a while people don't mind it! Jaguar (talk) 19:13, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Aihui Town

What's that, pray tell? The place in reality is in a different prefecture. Are there many other "articles" like that? -- Vmenkov (talk) 05:13, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry, prefecture mistakes like that are very rare. I just create the articles of the List of township-level divisions in Heilongjiang - I had no idea that Aihui Town would be in a different prefecture. Regards Jaguar (talk) 12:46, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

I've just found out that Aihui Town is in Heihe, not Hegang. Thank you for pointing that one out! Jaguar (talk) 12:55, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Hey Jaguar, how are you? Please be careful with what you're creating with articles like Aihui Town - Heihe is not a "province" it's a city - check out Administrative divisions of the People's Republic of China to get the low down on how these divisions all fit together - note there is no such thing as a prefecture, it's an archaic term. Please amend any articles that you've already created that have the same mistake. Best, ► Philg88 ◄ 14:21, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the comment. I never call them Prefectures, I just refer to them as 'Provinces' and I know that Heihe is wrong. I can assure you that there aren't anymore of those mistakes, even if there were, I would fix them. Mistakes like that are very rare anyway! Thanks, Jaguar (talk) 17:42, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

"Province" is a word that has a very specific meaning with respect to China: these are 20-something top-level units (from Heilongjiang in the north to Hainan in the south), and the word should not be used for anything else. (There were more of them in the past, but surely you aren't writing about historical proivinces). "Prefecture" is indeed not a very correct word, but I am using it sometimes as a shorthand for all prefecture-lebel units (viz., prefecture-level cities and autonomous prefectures) into which every province is divided. -- Vmenkov (talk) 20:03, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

problems in references

Hi there mate, could you please go through the references of all the Chinese stubs you created.

Many of them have errors. Some point to pages that have nothing to do with the subject of each article. Some have invalid URL's that take you nowhere.

It is necessary as per Misplaced Pages guidelines that every time you create an article (even if it's a stub) it must have at least one correct reference.

Cheers,

Azylber (talk) 10:01, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry, I know that some of them has errors but I think that's because that Chinese website 'xzqh' went done a couple of months ago and made all those links invalid. Most of them have been corrected now but here may be a few with broken links. I'll try and find and fix them. Regards Jaguar (talk) 14:46, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi, that's not what I mean. Some of the references are not valid URL's, i.e. just from looking at them you can tell they're not going to work, without even clicking on them, do you know what I mean?

That's problem 1. Problem 2 is that some of the internal links in the stubs you created point to the wrong province. E.g. in an article about a town in province X, if you click on districts it sends you to the list of districts of province Y.

Do you think you could fix these 2 problems in all your existing stubs before creating new stubs with the same issues?

Cheers, Azylber (talk) 16:28, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah I know that there are a few mistakes in some articles that I have made myself but they are often speedily corrected. I'll have a look at some of these articles and maybe correct them using AWB. Regards Jaguar (talk) 16:54, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Are you planning to slow down at all your stub creation so you can take a proper look at references that are wrong, references that are missing and internal links that are wrong? Azylber (talk) 10:54, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

The thing is is that there are actually far fewer mistakes than you think. I remember back in April I created a whole batch of articles and I knew that there was a mistake in that ref, but it was indeed too late to correct that batch I created. I'll correct them using AWB this week! Mistakes like that can happen, and I can assure you they won't happen again. It serves me right. I think I'll slow down now and look at some of the 10,000 Chinese townships I've created. Jaguar (talk) 20:09, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure how many of these 10,000 stubs actually have at least one correct reference. I've looked at a few dozens of your articles taken at random and most of them have a reference that doesn't point anywhere. These includes some of your most recent ones. I think it would be sensible to stop creating stubs and make sure all the ones you've created have a correct reference. There is no point in replacing red links with stubs that are wrong. This is also a violation of the conditions under which the autopatrolled right is given.Azylber (talk) 10:07, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Township articles, and issues

Perhaps you're getting tired of being questioned about these, but the concerns people are listing above are a prime example of why creating a batch of WP:Kittens as you've done is a problem. I didn't count exactly, but scrolling through your last 500 edits I see a bold N next to most of them. When you create articles in batch like this you can't possibly know much about each, or have the opportunity to correct them, or cite sources or follow up on any of that. I fear you're being too dismissive of people's concerns above.

My point is simply to say, slow down. Prefunctory stubs like this don't provide much useful information, and at worse mislead. They also increase the workload on everyone else trying to not only fix, but check your work, since there's no possible way you could verify it at the rate you're creating pages. You should also be aware of the bot approval group which includes large semi-automated creations. And while you say you're using Chrome to do them, you're clearly copy pasting a template from somewhere, I think this is veering into that territory. So please, fewer high quality articles would be better than many many stubs. You might also consider consolidating these similar regions into one large article for each area. That would make all of these concerns much easier to address. Shadowjams (talk) 21:20, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi Shadowjams, and thanks a lot of that message there. You know I think you're right. I might have been a bit too dismissive with some of my speed issues and I apologise to everyone if I have been, but I have pushed aside a couple of warnings because of the speed of my article creations in the past because I knew that I was creating all these articles for a good intention. I'm simply starting all these Chinese townships so that any user with the knowledge of China (not me! :-D) can expand them, there are thousands of red links ready to be created, and I am up for that task.

Regarding your concerns, I think I will slow down for a bit and look back on the 10,000 townships I've created. There are only a few mistakes in those articles, and 90% of the mistakes came from errors in the list where I got the red links from, they are not typos made by me. I have little knowledge of China, so I don't know if I am making these mistakes. I will do the best I can to fix them!

I have a question anyway - I've heard of the bot approval group but I don't understand what they do and how I'm going to interfere with them. It's a bot group and I'm not a bot! My article creation is 100% manual and I don't use a script or template, nothing but browser tabs. Quality is my main concern. Thank you very much for your concern, I'll get using AWB soon but I'm very busy this week as I'm leaving school for the last time this week. It might have to wait at least another week. Kind regards, Jaguar (talk) 20:21, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

There was a discussion a long time back, and a policy came of it. That policy is Misplaced Pages:Bot_policy#Mass_article_creation. "ny large-scale automated or semi-automated article creation task must be approved at Misplaced Pages:Bots/Requests for approval....While no specific definition of "large-scale" was decided, a suggestion of "anything more than 25 or 50" was not opposed. It is also strongly encouraged (and may be required by BAG) that community input be solicited at WP:Village pump (proposals)." I had no idea you'd made 10,000 such stubs.

Gees. Are you going for some record? There's no award for creating lots of articles. I think you really need to seek approval before you embark on any more mass creations. Shadowjams (talk) 01:41, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Jaguar says he's been authorised to do it. But I wonder if whoever authorised him to do this knows that the articles he's creating are not properly referenced and that some of the internal links are also wrong.

Jaguar, could we please have the link to the discussion where you say you were authorised to do this? Thanks, Azylber (talk) 10:11, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Here we go. I had my autopatrolled status taken away a few months ago and when I asked for it back, I agreed that I could create a number of stubs that strictly contain one reference, which meant that I could stay out of trouble with creating articles. Jaguar (talk) 15:28, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Jiangwan

As per multiple comments above, here's almost a random example of what's wrong with many recent stubs: Jiangwan. (Jiangwan, Heilongjiang). Harbin is not a province; Yilan County is a county, not a district; accessdate = {{Currentdate}} means that the reference will show with today's date (i.e. the the date the reader looked at the article, and not the date you looked at the reference); "pushpin_map_caption =Location in Fujian" is not appropriate for a location in provinces other than Fujian. "Jiangwan" is far from being a unique place name, so one (especially one who is by now has so much experience creating place name articles!) needs to disambiguate. Having a "?" instead of the name in Chinese characters is not helpful. A zh.wiki interwiki is missing, although it seems pretty much every township has a zh.wiki article by now. And for categories, having just a single Category:Township-level divisions of Heilongjiang (with over a thousand units, I suppose) is not enough; if we're creating articles for townships in bulk, we probably ought to parallel the structure on zh.wiki, where they have cats such as zh:Category:依兰县行政区划 (which would be Category:Township-level divisions of Yilan County for us). Cheeers, -- Vmenkov (talk) 03:11, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi Vmenkov. As I've said above, most of these province mistakes were not created by me, but indeed they were on the list where I create the articles from the red links. Some of them might be wrong, like Jiangwan as you've stated above. Addressing your concerns, I'll see if I can add a interwiki link to the zh.wiki to User:Jaguar/Sandbox/3 (that's where I create all these articles!). I will also use AWB later on in the week to correct most of these mistakes, such as replacing {{currentdate}} with a template that actually works! I'm sorry for replying to all these messages and not taking any action so far, but I'm leaving school forever this week and I'll be away from Misplaced Pages for a few days. I promise as soon as I get back I will look at these Chinese townships I create and I will see what I can do. Thank you for your concerns, I hope that I will put more quality in my articles in the future. Kind regards, Jaguar (talk) 20:37, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Jaguar, congratualations on your graduation, and best wishes with whatever's next in your career! As to the "list where I create the articles from the red links", I assume you mean lists such as List of township-level divisions of Heilongjiang. I don't see anything incorrect in that list: it correctly lists towns and townships in the appropriate prefecture- and county-level units, and it does not call cities "provinces" or counties "districts", nor does it menions Fujian anywhere :-) It also has the correct Chinese name for each town(ship), so it can be looked up on zh.wiki as needed. Anyway, take your time to improve what needs to be improved... and take care! -- Vmenkov (talk) 22:11, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your message! I will be going to college in September, taking a course in English Literature and Language for journalism. I will get to fixing those dead links and anything else using AWB, but I see that I've just been reported to ANI, so I'll get to it in a couple of days or so. Regards, Jaguar (talk) 15:08, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

ANI

Please see Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#'Jaguar/Sandbox/3' edits. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:47, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

I've just left school forever and partied hard and I come back to this!! Jaguar (talk) 15:05, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

YGM

--Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 16:40, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Lets work on a solution

OK there are a number of issues to be resolved. Lets have a list of them.

Issues

1. Wrong province named (in internal link to list of districts)
2. Dead external link
3. Wrong province named in external link (in Chinese characters)
4. "?" in lang-zh template
5. accessedate not set.
6. No interwiki
7. URLs do not work in articles

Possible solutions

1. AWB could fix this
2. Need to understand what the link should be.
3. Need a table of Chinese names of provinces vs English names
4. Need a table of Chinese names of districts vs English names
5. Best to set this when we replace the external link. Simply using "Subst:" would solve this
6. Can be done if we have the tables mentioned above. (Or add an interwiki template leading to zh.wiki)
7. Need to deactivate Google Translate and link the ref to the original Chinese website

Please add to the above.

Rich Farmbrough, 18:41, 17 May 2012 (UTC).

Thanks a lot for making a solution, Rich. I've added to the above. Jaguar (talk) 18:46, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

I'll take these solutions on board the next time I create a bunch of articles, in the mean time I will get using AWB! I'm busy tomorrow and maybe the next couple of days, but don't worry, I will get to it this week. Regards, Jaguar (talk) 18:47, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi Rich, the ones where he put google translate aren't just wrong because of the use of google translate. The URL's are actually wrong themselves, as they don't point to the correct page within the Chinese website.

I hope the list of issues I gave at WP:AN was/is useful. I took me a while to review lots of articles and to find all these errors and make the list. But be aware that there might also be other errors that didn't discover.

Azylber (talk) 22:59, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

There are no more errors. That's the last of them. Jaguar (talk) 11:23, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

how do you know? Azylber (talk) 11:51, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Everybody has pointed out all the errors in all my articles. I'm going to take a short rest now because Misplaced Pages is doing my head in. Jaguar (talk) 16:05, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Autopatrolled removed

Per the ongoing discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#'Jaguar/Sandbox/3' edits, I have removed your autopatrolled rights again. I would strongly advise that you do not request autopatrolled again until this matter has been resolved to the general satisfaction of those who have presented evidence. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 14:49, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

I knew everybody at ANI would gang up on me like bullies on playground... what else could I expect... Jaguar (talk) 15:27, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Jaguar, nobody is ganging up on you but it's important to maintain the integrity of Misplaced Pages. Just slow down with your article creation and take a little more care with references etc. Best, ► Philg88 ◄ 15:42, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

I know, thanks. If I create one more article I know that I'll get in trouble or maybe banned but I'm going to begin fixing them now. I've already made a start. Regards Jaguar (talk) 15:44, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

One of your most recent edits, at the time of writing, was an apparent fix to Xingshou. Despite this, you left behind:

• Text saying "(Chinese: ?)"
• A reference which is a Chinese site though you have said elsewhere that you do not read Chinese.
• An infobox heading for a Chinese transcription of the name; with no transcription
• An infobox "transcription language" heading, linked to "Chinese character"
• An infobox "transcription type" heading, also linked to "Chinese character"
• An infobox "settlement type" of "Subdistrict", though the lede says Xingshou is a "township-level division"
• An infobox "Prefecture" heading, with no corresponding value
• An infobox "District" heading, with no corresponding value
• An infobox "District" heading linked to "County (People's Republic of China)"
• A reference access date using {{Currentdaymonthyear}}
• Use of Category:Changping District, unsupported by anything in the article

If this is how you leave an article after fixing it, I think WP:COMPETENCE is likely to come into play. Please take time to listen to what people are telling you here, and restrict your edits to those where you have community consensus. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:41, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

There is another nascent problem here with the absence of Chinese characters in stub articles created by Jaguar. According to WP:MOS-ZH it would be legitimate for an editor to remove the Chinese characters in List of township-level divisions of Beijing since they are no longer red links. However, to then add the Chinese back to the stubs is a whole mountain of work because of the homophone issues with pinyin. ► Philg88 ◄ 18:06, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

I was hoping to do them one at a time. Please don't think that I'm not leaving behind anything. Thank you for making a list there, it'll be helpful for when I begin to fix my articles in the future. Jaguar (talk) 20:37, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

red links

Please remove the statement, at the top of your talk page, which says:

it is found that my red link destroying career is not considered a problem

Current discussion at ANI shows that is no longer the case. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:19, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Likewise "I've been 'authorised' to create them", on your user page Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:22, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages! SwisterTwister talk 20:37, 18 May 2012 (UTC)