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I apologise for asking a stupid question at ]. I should have known better. I'll try not to be so foolish again. Thanks! ] (]) 21:58, 25 July 2012 (UTC) I apologise for asking a stupid question at ]. I should have known better. I'll try not to be so foolish again. Thanks! ] (]) 21:58, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
:I didn't intend any personal slight or judgment against you, Mathew. I'm very sorry it came across that way! It was a joke I heard a few weeks ago, a play on the old "A walks into a bar..." canard, and the mention of elk made me think of it. I, like you, am a US resident who doesn't quite understand why non-US chapters get to have a committee and the US chapters don't get much of anything, so I didn't at all mean to belittle your question. I guess I just had a moment of bad taste, for which I apologize again :( ] (]) 22:42, 25 July 2012 (UTC) :I didn't intend any personal slight or judgment against you, Mathew. I'm very sorry it came across that way! It was a joke I heard a few weeks ago, a play on the old "A walks into a bar..." canard, and the mention of elk made me think of it. I, like you, am a US resident who doesn't quite understand why non-US chapters get to have a committee and the US chapters don't get much of anything, so I didn't at all mean to belittle your question. I guess I just had a moment of bad taste, for which I apologize again :( ] (]) 22:42, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


== Kissinger Nkosinathi Sibanda ==

This page was approved on July 12 and you deleted it as being the same page as the a page that was once deleted. Please stop this----

The new Kissinger Nkosinathi Sibanda page has is substantially different from the previous deleted page and I have taken great lengths to document why he is notable.

You have also said, I quote ---- "that he is not notable, other than that he just exist," -- how is the first real African born pioneer and voice in science fiction "just existing!"

Please take your racist attitude to another entry. I refuse to be bullied by you. This page was created and you unilaterally deleted the page, shame on you!

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Thanks,

Need technical help

Hey Fluffernutter. I would like to imitate the AfC process for COI {{request edits}}. I think this will help drastically with some of the complaints about the request edit process by giving feedback to the content submitter and pushing responsibility on them to improve the article, while creating a concise paper-trail on prior reviews and streamlining the process.

I need to find a partner in crime with technical expertise to help with the templates and all the technology. I was wondering if you knew someone interested in COI that has immense technical expertise with Wiki-work. User:King4057 (EthicalWiki) 18:34, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm. I myself am not good with templates, so let me give some thought to if I know someone who would fit the bill. I'll get back to you on this! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 18:48, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
I would also be curious as to your thoughts on something like this? User:King4057 (EthicalWiki) 14:33, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I might be able to help a bit with templating. A first step could be to expand the categorization. Currently active {{request edit}}s populate the Category:Requested edits, then "disappear" when turned off. Taking a que from AFC, could expand into:
Perhaps Template talk:Request edit is the place to discuss, if this sounds like a workable idea? -- Eclipsed (talk) (COI Declaration) 15:25, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Oh good, I do love my talkpage stalkers! Thank you for jumping in with the template help, Eclipsed. King4057, I took a quick look over your NIC page, and to me it looks like something that belongs in Wikiproject Cooperation - it's basically "Companies and their employees editing Misplaced Pages within the guidelines", which is what WP:C already (tries to) does. I do like your "Why participate" section, though. There's something for each side to gain when a company works with Misplaced Pages, if only we could make both sides believe that! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 17:15, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Editors seemed to disagree with the concept of NIC, but support the idea that the relationship Misplaced Pages has with companies is more than just COI. I think that can be incorporated into other places without making a new page, like COOP, the EasyMoney essay or the COI guideline. It's always easy, but less productive, to start something new rather than build consensus for change ;-)
Eclipsed, that strategy for getting started on Request Edits works for me. If you can team up with me by handling the templates and technical aspects, I would like to contribute primarily in regards to the content of the templates and the overall structure. It's something I've been talking to folks about and have ideas on, but can't get the ball rolling for further discussion without technical help.
Fluffer, this is a whole different tangental rant I can go on, but I personally struggle with justifying an ethical approach to Misplaced Pages from a business perspective. For me, EthicalWiki is a niche firm for companies that want to improve articles while respecting legal's hands-off policies, companies that are genuinely, naturally ethical, or those that fear the repercussions enough. The bulk of paid editing will continue to be less ethical, because it's the easiest, most effective way to get the results companies want from their Misplaced Pages page (promotional pages that are good enough to stick). But there is a lot we can do to make an ethical approach more favorable and build more productive relationships, more often. There's no silver bullet and no generalization that works all the time, but we do what we can. (end rant) User:King4057 (EthicalWiki) 14:46, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Template stuff continued on: Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Cooperation#tld.3F ... -- Eclipsed (talk) (COI Declaration) 15:42, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Your attention

I did not see you objecting when I was repeatedly abused. And you are warning me? for what?--Alice1818 (talk) 19:41, 17 July 2012 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Homeopathy&diff=prev&oldid=502820191

Thanks

Re the email, thanks for that. Callanecc (talkcontribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 14:55, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem :) A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 15:08, 19 July 2012 (UTC)


RE: Tarc's page

I got your note. Yeah, I don't see the big deal, to be honest, civilty is a policy and per WP:REMOVEUNCIVIL any editor can remove incivil comments from a user's talk page. (An image with a middle finger in an edit notice is incivil, as is his comment about IP's). Yeah, I know WP:Notcensored, but I don't necessarily think that applies here:). Anyrate, I saw your warning, and no I won't touch his page again. Thanks. "....We are all Kosh...."  <-Babylon-5-> 18:43, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Have you actually read WP:REMOVEUNCIVIL? It says the exact opposite to what you appear to believe. Mogism (talk) 18:50, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for stopping, Kosh. Like I said, we do have processes that can deal with problematic content if you feel the issue should be pursued; edit warring just isn't one of them :) A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 18:53, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Are you going to do anything about the gross misunderstanding or gross misrepresentation that KoshVorlon presents regarding WP:REMOVEUNCIVIL, noted by Mogism above? Hipocrite (talk) 18:59, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
I've pointed out the MFD to Kosh on my talk. Given my prior experience of Kosh (see my talk archive), I'm not hopeful. Mogism (talk) 19:05, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
I have no faith in his ability to understand anything; all he does is collapse comments he doesn't like and eventually promise not to do whatever is at issue again, all without acknowledging he was wrong or that he knows even why there is disagreement. I've never understood how someone can continue to insist on an intrepretation everyone else says is wrong, though I suppose there's the Dunning–Kruger effect. Anyway, the problem here is a fundamental lack of reading comprehension and failure to effectively communicate, and until he's finally banned he will find one thing after another to unilaterally edit war over. postdlf (talk) 20:19, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Action Park (again)

Wow, what made that one blow up today? Anyway, thanks for doing your job. Daniel Case (talk) 01:45, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem, I went into "grar, must protect great article!" mode almost automatically :D Judging by some of the vandalism I caught while reverting it, I think it might have been a random /v/ raid. Darn kids these days... A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 02:39, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
/v/ or /b/? Has that changed somehow, while I wasn't watching? Daniel Case (talk) 01:05, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
Both exist. I think /v/ is nominally about videos, or video games, or some such thing involving the letter /v/, but mostly both seem to spend their time raiding random WP articles. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 01:12, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I think you may need to protect it again. Daniel Case (talk) 05:14, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Black Widows of Liverpool

The article Black Widows of Liverpool you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Black Widows of Liverpool for things which need to be addressed. AIRcorn (talk) 13:50, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Fluffernutter. You have new messages at WP:RX.
Message added 15:27, 20 July 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Shrike (talk)/WP:RX 15:27, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Fluffernutter. You have new messages at Electriccatfish2's talk page.
Message added 16:39, 23 July 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Thanks for dragging me out of the edit war!

 Electric Catfish 16:39, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Electric catfish was originally warning the user for edit warring, trolling and refactoring talk page contents at User talk:Writegeist. That bit was correct. I see he now understands his mistake on the user's talk page, but the issue at Writegeist's talk page still needs to be addressed. --Biker Biker (talk) 16:44, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
You're welcome, Catfish. Everyone sometimes needs a good shake and a "what are you DOING, man?!" to bring them back to reality. I'm speaking to Arcandam now about what's gone on, so hopefully the warring on all sides will end. Let's all have some tea and pretend we love each other - or at least don't want to kill each other! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 16:47, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! You really scared me, but that's fine. I messed up and needed a little kick in the pants. Best, Electric Catfish 16:49, 23 July 2012 (UTC).
Did the talk do any good, because he just reverted again at Writegeist's talk page?--Biker Biker (talk) 17:13, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Sigh. Well, I thought it had done some good. I've left him another note. None of you are really covering yourselves in glory today, and I would suggest (to all of you involved, on all sides) that you avoid taking the bait anyone else puts out. Two edit wars don't make a right, or however that saying goes... A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 17:20, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
I'm was done dealing with Arcandam hours ago when you warned me to stop. I'm 9/9 in CSD tags today and have reported 6 users to administrators. Not bad. Thanks for trying, though. Electric Catfish 18:14, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Also, he called Biker and I "tag teaming trolls" on Writegeist's talk page. I'm not offended, but it may be grounds for a block on the basis of WP: NPA. Also, should I apologize to him with a Wikilove, or forget about it? Electric Catfish 18:20, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
I think it's best to just let the conversation drop. Don't wikilove or apologize, and also don't continue arguing with him (so good on you, for disengaging already!). It's best if everyone sort of just goes back to their corners. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 18:24, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Again, as I said, I'm out of this edit war. I knew about WP: TPO, but got dragged into this edit war. Also, I use Wikilove and barnstars to get out of disputes here, but I'm going to hold off here. I'm not arguing with him and have stopped reverting and ceased communication with him since you warned me. He than called Biker a troll on my talk page, so I removed the comments as per WP: TPO. I'm out now and I plan to stay out. Whether or not he is blocked is your and Worm's decision. I don't want this to be used against me in my RFA in January, so you decide what to do. Best, Electric Catfish 18:26, 23 July 2012 (UTC).

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
For dragging me out of the edit war. Electric Catfish 16:42, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Boynton Beacj

Rodriquez is NOT mayor as he was removed by the Florida Governor months ago.

Park Vista HS is IN Lake Worth and NOT Boynton Beach

Gateway to the gulfstream is NOT the motto and cannot be sourced because BB has NO MOTTO.

Do the research and prove these are not the case Nutterz — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.8.148.100 (talk) 20:55, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, but this sort of edit is 100% unacceptable. If you continue to add racist content such as that, you will be blocked. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 21:05, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Excuse me, but blanket and erroneous reverting of other editors are also NOT allowed. So... explain why you blanketly changed my edits rather than simply removing what you irresponsibly see as a vandalism edit.

Have you any knowledge of Boynton Beach? Did you once visit the city with beach in its name and not actually possess a beach? Did mommy or grand pappy live here once in the 40s, and that qualifies you as a local authority on this municipality? Stick with what you know and I will do the same. I am sure you would not like someone to blanketedly revert your edits because of ONE mistake when five facts are true in your edits.

Ok nuttterz? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.8.148.100 (talk) 21:14, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

"jigaboos and hebrews" was not something you typoed when meaning something else. I'm not sure if you're trying to be constructive and coming up short, or if you're actually trying to vandalize the article, but your edits have so many problems that it doesn't really matter. If you add racist or hateful content again, or make an edit that damages the article, such as introducing typos into words which were previously spelled correctly, you will be blocked for disruptive editing. It's fine if you don't like me, it's even fine for you to call me silly names, but it's not fine for you to damage Misplaced Pages. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 21:19, 23 July 2012 (UTC)


Well dummy, blanketly reverting edits because you dont like one entry is VANDALISM! There is no other way to look at it. So, King of Wiki AH, I have already reported it to Wiki as your edits are unconstructive and not within the guildelines of Wiki. Can I help it, if I left the room while still on a edit page? Is that against the rules that no one is allowed to delay the entire edit while in process because someone may erroneously enter something while the editor is gone.

Prove that I put a typo in any edit intentionally! You are an idiot and shoudl stick to Harlem or Bensonhurst fool! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.8.148.100 (talk) 21:35, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) No it isn't vandalism, and calling others "idiots" or "fools" is strictly prohibited and you will probably be blocked for another comment like that.--Jasper Deng (talk) 21:54, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

User:StaploePC

22:34, 23 July 2012 Fluffernutter (Talk | contribs) blocked StaploePC (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of indefinite

Can you explain this please? Best wishes S a g a C i t y (talk) 07:33, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

As the template says, their username didn't meet our username policy. Since they were also editing in a topic area which indicates that they're representing the group their username shows, I placed a softblock on their username ("softblock" means they can create a new username at their leisure, there's no account creation block or IP block involved). A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 14:22, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, I now understand S a g a C i t y (talk) 14:42, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 23 July 2012

Jumped the gun

Hey, Fluffernutter, I see that you've been dealing with DIM302's silliness with the Analyte Health articles. He jumped the gun on his AfC and went ahead and created Analyte Health, Inc. It actually looks not awful, though; vaguely promotional, but nothing too blatant, and there do seem to be some sources. Can you take a look at it and tell me (more importantly, him) what you think? Thanks! Writ Keeper 14:53, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Looks like it's at AfD now. I'm disappointed the user didn't just keep working on it in AfC space and instead chose to plunk it back where it wasn't ready to belong. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 18:22, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Last-word-itis

It's a horrible condition. Please have sympathy for those of us so afflicted Egg Centric 18:58, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm more inclined to have sympathy for the people who are genuinely trying to participate in the RFA process, either as a nominee or as a commenter, and have now had to wade through the muck of a trollish RFA to get that done. I know you were trying to be funny, but I'm not joking when I say it's not working, and you're both coming off looking really, seriously bad in this. I see that you've laid off the commenting since I left my comment, which is great - it would be really helpful if you could now convince Penyulap to stop preening at the attention and instead consider that he's gotten some very good advice along the lines of "start editing articles and stop seeing how much drama you can cause, just for lulz" today. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 19:16, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
I wasn't trying to be funny at all. It was a sincere RFA on my part, and I believe on Penyulap's too. Egg Centric 20:10, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Fatfinger

Sorry about the rollback. Mobile phone slip Fasttimes68 (talk) 19:11, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Blocked User:Noobhunternine

Yesterday you extended the block on User:Noobhunternine who had posted obscene images on various pages including my talk page. I asked the blocking admin to remove visibility of these images from my talk page but he said they don't come under the "revdelete" category. Please can you see if you can do something as they are still visible on the revision history of my talk page. my page has been vandalised many times and the obscenities have been removed so surely there must be something you can do.Vrenator 08:09, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

apology

Hi,

I apologise for asking a stupid question at the Signpost. I should have known better. I'll try not to be so foolish again. Thanks! MathewTownsend (talk) 21:58, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

I didn't intend any personal slight or judgment against you, Mathew. I'm very sorry it came across that way! It was a joke I heard a few weeks ago, a play on the old "A walks into a bar..." canard, and the mention of elk made me think of it. I, like you, am a US resident who doesn't quite understand why non-US chapters get to have a committee and the US chapters don't get much of anything, so I didn't at all mean to belittle your question. I guess I just had a moment of bad taste, for which I apologize again :( A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 22:42, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


Kissinger Nkosinathi Sibanda

This page was approved on July 12 and you deleted it as being the same page as the a page that was once deleted. Please stop this----

The new Kissinger Nkosinathi Sibanda page has is substantially different from the previous deleted page and I have taken great lengths to document why he is notable.

You have also said, I quote ---- "that he is not notable, other than that he just exist," -- how is the first real African born pioneer and voice in science fiction "just existing!"

Please take your racist attitude to another entry. I refuse to be bullied by you. This page was created and you unilaterally deleted the page, shame on you!