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Misplaced Pages's notability guideline for music

Hi Derek. I am new to wikipedia and singed up specifically to edit a page on Danny Bryant as it said "The topic of this article may not meet Misplaced Pages's notability guideline for music". I have made edits and think with the correct references etc it should be ok now. I noticed that you first flagged this a while ago. If the article is now ok, how does this notice get removed? Sorry if I am going about this the wrong way, I thought I would ask you as you were the one to flag it - newbie here! Many thanks.--Mirrorballs (talk) 19:51, 5 June 2012 (UTC)Mirrorballs 05/06/2012

Hello Mirrorballs. Sorry for the delay in responding, but I have been away for a few days. I am taken the liberty of improving the referencing on Bryant's article and generally enhanced the Wiki styling. I also note that another editor has now removed the 'notability' tag, which is fine. Obviously, his notability has now established by the various edits since I placed the original tag back in August last year. Well done.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:42, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks Derek! --Mirrorballs (talk) 00:32, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Hello Derek

Thought you might be interested to know that the Andy Kim birth date "controversy" is showing signs of stirring to life. See the talk page of the article. 74.14.25.111 (talk) 06:58, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, thank you. I note your comments, which I broadly agree with. Apart from the reliable third party 'evidence' already presented for 1946 as the most probable birth year, it is frankly inconceivable that he left home and recorded his first single aged 11, whilst pretending to be 17!

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 11:22, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Just by the by, I see that my trusty (but not wholly reliable) Joel Whitburn book gives the 5 Dec 1952 birthdate, and gives his original name as Androwis Jovakim. I think you should start a new "birth name" debate on that talk page......  ?! Hope you had a good holiday, Derek - can't beat the good old rainy British summer though! Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:52, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Super holiday, thanks. Came home early this morning and have seen more rain today, than in three weeks in the Far East ! Must go away more often.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:25, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Sgt. Pepper straw poll

There is currently a straw poll taking place here. Your input would be appreciated. ~ GabeMc 00:12, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

OK, and thank you. But frankly, I can not did bothered to proffer a flying fig, because the American standard will prevail, as it generally does right across Misplaced Pages. Of course, it's The Beatles, but the Yanks would not understand English - despite purporting to speak it.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 00:57, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Cue Churchill. StevenJ81 (talk) (a Yank, as it happens) 20:30, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Jewish Holiday: Link filled in under your name by Reflinks

Hi, there: Based on your highly decorated editing history, I'm disinclined to revert your edit without contacting you first. However, the link that has been added to the article Jewish holiday (now marked as Ref. 1, under the section for Rosh Hashanah), refers to a website written by a Christian, ostensibly to show the Jewish roots of Christianity. That's all well-and-good; he's entitled to his website, and probably isn't even wrong, as far as it goes. However, my view is that (a) this reference doesn't really add any value to the article in the first place, and (b) for a Jewish holiday like Rosh Hashanah, an equivalent Jewish source, were such to exist, would be more appropriate. Thanks for your consideration. StevenJ81 (talk) 20:26, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Steven. Your logic sounds good to me - please feel free to revert/amend as you see fit. It's no problem to me.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:30, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

 DoneStevenJ81 (talk) 21:55, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

MLS International Roster Slots

Thanks for completing the references on the MLS International Roster Slots page. I'm sure it was a chore. I'll be sure and maintain it properly going forward. Thanks again. Bubbagump24 (talk) 23:35, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem. Actually the easiest way to deal with such matters is to use Misplaced Pages:Reflinks, which is quite simple to employ. Regards,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 19:21, 14 July 2012 (UTC).

Reflinks for children's authors and books

Hi, You are frequently on my watchlist, evidently following my placement of {{bare URL}} at the top of a page. It's the one editorial template that seems to provoke a quick response.

Is the Reflinks tool capable of using {dmy} for publication dates and yyyy-mm-dd for Retrieval? (I ask after consulting Chaos Walking where you have used yyyy-mm-dd for both in completing 8 references. The preceding editor in antepreceding visit (10:56, 30 December 2011‎ Apocryphals) had used {dmy} correctly for publ dates but incorrectly for Retrieval.)

Does the Reflinks tool resort to linked wikipedia articles, as I suggested in a comment to manual editors ("-- see references given in the biography and three book articles; some are complete and some should be consulted here --")? Or does it rely entirely on the one wikipedia article and data retrieved by internet?

Thank you for your time. --P64 (talk) 16:45, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello. Perhaps I can make a few basic points. Firstly, I do not follow any other editor's actions and sub edit accordingly. I normally, when using Misplaced Pages:Reflinks, take a list such as and work through it. Secondly, my technical knowledge of the workings of Reflinks is somewhat limited, as I presume it creates references using correct terminology and stylings. Certainly it does generate the retrieval dates in the yyyy-mm-dd format. Frankly, as it is not often that books come up on the type of lists mentioned, I have not really noticed what style it automatically generates for publication dates.

Thirdly, to the questions posed in your last paragraph, I simply do not know the answers (my technical deficiencies again). Regards,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 18:17, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't mean to be critical. The quick response (as it seems to me) encourages me to keep using this template.

After a look at Quentin Blake --where you followed up my AM work this PM-- i suspect that the publication date is retrieved by internet from "metadata" visible to Reflinks but invisible (Exhibit: copyright year only) to you and me.

Thanks again. --P64 (talk) 00:36, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for removing cleanup link at the page of Nirman. --Abhijeet Safai (talk) 03:42, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Ted Ray (comedian)

Apologies for reverting your edits there, but an IP had got its hands on the article before you did, thus transferring radio shows to TV. By all means revert me if that makes it easier to restore your stuff. Regards, Rothorpe (talk) 16:33, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem. I've reinserted the reference that I added previously - all is well. Cheers,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:59, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

List of deaths in rock and roll

Hi Derek. Fancy taking a look at that page's recent history and talk page? I'm up to 3RR, I think. Not "vandalism", just reluctance to engage in due process, etc etc. The "good" version is SabreBD's last edit, should you wish to get involved. Nice day up there? - I'm pottering in the garden.... Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:03, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello Guy. I have added my ha'p'orth worth on the article's talk page. Beautiful day here too - just got back from cricket at Queen's Park, Chesterfield. Lovely weather on Sunday - even though we lost the match. Cheers,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 14:30, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

You don't need to be that specific

No need for stuff like "by iantothemax on March 5th, 2012 at 11:55 am" - and I don't even think "iantothemax" is avy relevant here. --Niemti (talk) 18:08, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

To be fair, the line was created automatically by Misplaced Pages:Reflinks. I do not know a thing about the subject matter; merely trying to reduce the number of bare URLs. Still, you can't please all the people, can you.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 18:22, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Howie Payne

What would you suggest doing about an editor (IP 80.3.170.61) that repeatedly removes fully referenced details from an article? I don't know who the editor is, but it seems they have an active interest in supressing certain information about Howie Payne. You're an experienced editor, so perhaps you know a solution? Thanks.

92.8.16.98 (talk) 18:03, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi Derek

This message was sent to user 92.8.18.28 as the edits in regards to the above complaint were originally made from that ip address. it outlines the reason for my revision of their edits. They have not responded but continue to revise the page. http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:92.8.18.28 As you can see my message clearly states why I revised their edits but rather than fix or address the issues and thus improve the page they have chosen to contact you with an accusation of suppressing of information. I also think it is worth noting this page has been subject to vandalism in the past. I hope this helps you to gain a balanced view of the matter should you think it necessary to intervene. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.3.170.61 (talk) 18:27, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Why do you instert some " var authorId = "" by " into links, repeatedly?

That's... strange. Stop doing it. --Niemti (talk) 18:01, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I talked with you about stuff like that already. How about you start checking and copyediting to eliminate glitches like that, or just filling these links manually? --Niemti (talk) 18:03, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Even User:Dispenser/Reflinks actually says: "When done, click the "show preview" button at the bottom of the page. If things look OK, then click the "save page" button. If things don't look OK, then fix what needs to be fixed in the preview edit window." --Niemti (talk) 18:06, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

I am not sure what you are talking about. I am simply using Misplaced Pages:Reflinks for these alterations - whatever it is adding it is doing so - not me. So stop coming here and berating me.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 18:45, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Let me repeat again: "When done, click the "show preview" button at the bottom of the page. If things look OK, then click the "save page" button. If things don't look OK, then fix what needs to be fixed in the preview edit window." --Niemti (talk) 17:29, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

And you did it again: - are you just completely ignoring me, and Reflinks guidelines? Go and fix it now. --Niemti (talk) 18:01, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh, and there are 12,600 articles witj "var authorId =" - many of them are probably because of your reckless editing, so I suggest you should start fixing then now, after you've forgot to do it in the preview edit window, as you were supposed to. --Niemti (talk) 18:07, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Or maybe some other, autmoatic bot might now clean up after you. Just get it done. --Niemti (talk) 18:17, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hi, Derek. As an uninvolved user, I just want to let you know that there is a discussion about the apparent Reflinks bug over at User talk:Dispenser/Reflinks#Apparent "var authorId" bug?. Thank you, Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:47, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Hello Greg. Many thanks for your intervention on this topic - perhaps you, and possibly others, will appreciate that I have been using Reflinks with good faith. It is certainly not reckless editing on my part - I deeply resent the accusation. If such claims are repeated, I will report the matter to the administrators notice board. Thanks again for your level headedness.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 21:12, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

No problem. I appreciate it very much. By the way, there is a discussion at User talk:Dennis Brown#Question about Niemti's behavior. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 21:20, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Just so you are aware, the bug has been fixed. Keep up the good work! Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 03:24, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks yet again. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 10:33, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

If it's "certainly" not reckless, why didn't you start using the preview button, as you're supposed to, even after I've told you twice about it? --Niemti (talk) 21:17, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

2012 in Scottish television

Thanks for this. I forgot to remove it after I'd finished. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 12:07, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. Regards.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:57, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Detagging

Hi there. When filling in references with reflinks, please remember to remove the {{cleanup-link rot}} tag so the article isn't in the category of articles needing fixing. Please go back and remove it on all the articles you've filled references in on in the past. Thanks, Rcsprinter (natter) @ 10:45, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

I am assuming good faith here. I have edited Misplaced Pages for well over 6 years, undertaken over 60,000 edits, of which, I reckon in excess of 10,000 were done using Reflinks. The odd lapse along the way, for sure, but reviewing ten thousand ? I don't think so.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:25, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

• You've done a wonderful job with the Jagan Nath Azad and Malik Ram reflinks. Hard work, I know, and I am sure I speak for many when I say we really do appreciate your input. Thanks.Zananiri (talk) 18:36, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you in return. A little encouragement goes a long way.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 21:07, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

A cup of tea

Fixing references per linkrot at-Malik Ram-I appreciate that! –Justice007 (talk) 22:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. More work is actually needed concerning the referencing on that article, but at least I've made a start. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:41, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Abaza_family&diff=prev&oldid=508782436

Hi Derek R Bullamore, I undid your edit because mistakenly you also removed the image I added. Lotje ツ (talk) 14:21, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 14:28, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

danke! Greatpumkin (talk) 02:54, 24 August 2012 (UTC)