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"First they came…"

is a famous statement attributed to Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group. The text of the quotation is usually presented roughly as follows:

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Peaceful reminder to myself

Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, peoples rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension.

Welcome messages

Hi there,

You managed to leave welcome messages for two of the users I was training in a workshop today, while the workshop was in progress - well timed! Thanks for doing this sort of patrolling...

What's the template you're using? It's a lot more attractive than {{W-screen}}, my usual fallback. Andrew Gray (talk) 17:11, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar. I have a bunch of welcomes saved. The one you ask about is User:Buster7/Welcomes#WikiGuide Welcome. Its from when the WikiGuide project was active. Now, I pretty much do them one at a time. First, I edit the B7/Welcomes page by resigning which changes to todays date. Then I cut-n-paste and I go to recent changes and look for talk redlinks. I only welcome editors that are already doing some editing or have created a sandbox. I figure the chance of retention is a bit higher if they are already busy working on an article or in a sandbox. BTW...I'm curious...who were the users? If I'm not to rushed I look for new editors that may be in a "situation" and a friendly welcome will ease their perplexity. I find that many of the templates that new editors get are very BLUNT. I try to balance that whenever possible. Nice to meet you. ```Buster Seven Talk 17:45, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

One was Andreaderi (talk · contribs); I seem to have misplaced the note with the other one's name!

I try to leave welcome notes as part of the workshop (it's a good practical demonstration of how to use talk pages) and it's interesting to see how often I get beaten to it by someone - about 10% of the time, I think. Thanks again, Andrew Gray (talk) 08:23, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

note

For Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Editor Retention/Discovered reasons given for leaving Misplaced Pages, see User talk:Fastily. Thanks. --doncram 12:35, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Included. Thanks. ```Buster Seven Talk 14:29, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Wow, 13! Nice to see another old fart here. Dougweller (talk) 20:33, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Dispute Resolution IRC office hours.

Hello there. As you expressed interest in hearing updates to my research in the dispute resolution survey that was done a few months ago, I just wanted to let you know that I am hosting an IRC office hours session this coming Saturday, 28th July at 19:00 UTC (approximately 12 hours from now). This will be located in the #wikimedia-office IRC channel - if you have not participated in an IRC discussion before you can connect to IRC here.

Regards, User:Szhang (WMF) (talk) 07:01, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

COI+ certification proposal

I've thought of an idea that might break our current logjam with paid editing. I'd love your sincere feedback and opinion.

• WP:COI certification

Feel free to circulate this to anyone you think should know about it, but please recognize that it hasn't been agreed upon by either PR organizations or WikiProjects or the wider community. It's also just a draft, so any/many changes can still be made. Thanks and cheers, Ocaasi 15:15, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

New tip...

When using a Welcome template with precoded tildes for an auto signature of the posting editor...always remember to use the {{Subst:}} instead of the actual template name. This transcludes all the text from the template onto the article and allows the tildes to auto sign. (PS...I will fix the transclusion problem of the template documentation as soon as I can! ;)--Amadscientist (talk) 21:56, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Absolutely no prob. I'm used to cutnpaste method anyway. I realize its like using a rotary phone...but I barely understand what you said above...:~)...```Buster Seven Talk 22:11, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

It is all very new to me, but I am figuring it out little by little. Sometimes I just need to sit down with a cup of coffee and stop thinking and it comes to me...like i think just happened. I will know momentarily.--Amadscientist (talk) 22:49, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks!

--Ladodoquadrado (talk) 02:25, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

UTC

UTC is part of the timestamp, indicating that the time/date is Coordinated Universal Time (in common usage, basically the same as what was called Greenwich Mean Time or GMT). isaacl (talk) 00:50, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. ```Buster Seven Talk 00:53, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Or, if you like military-speak, you can just call it "zulu." Zaereth (talk) 01:02, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Hey Zaereth. Zulu it is. (A great movie BTW). ```Buster Seven Talk 01:07, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Talk page archiving

On this page, near the beginning, there is some text starting with "{{User:MiszaBot/config". By changing the parameters you can control how your page is archived, or you can removing the part between {{ }} entirely to stop archiving. See User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo for more information. isaacl (talk) 01:08, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

 Done Thanks. I removed eveything re:archiving, including the brackets. ```Buster Seven Talk 01:17, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Sometimes, we just need a cookie. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 18:08, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

YUM! YUM!! ```Buster Seven Talk 05:34, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, I'm not really used to this yet, and I'm not sure if I'm posting in the correct place, but I just wanted to thank you for creating my user page. I really appreciate it! Thank you,sir! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vincent80000 (talk • contribs) 07:06, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

 Ryan Vesey 13:18, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

A funny joke finally

A man escapes from prison where he has been for 15 years. He breaks into a house to look for money and guns and finds a young couple in bed.

He orders the guy out of bed and ties him to a chair, while tying the girl to the bed he gets on top of her, kisses her neck, then gets up and goes into the bathroom. While he's in there, the husband tells his wife:

"Listen, this guy's an escaped convict, look at his clothes! He probably spent lots of time in jail and hasn't seen a woman in years. I saw how he kissed your neck." If he wants sex, don't resist, don't complain, do whatever he tells you. Satisfy him no matter how much he nauseates you. This guy is probably very dangerous. If he gets angry, he'll kill us. Be strong, honey. I love you."

To which his wife responds: "He wasn't kissing my neck. He wwas whispering in my ear. He told me he was gay, thought you were cute, and asked me if we had any vaseline. I told him it was in the bathroom. Be strong honey. I love you too!!"

```Buster Seven Talk 12:48, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Good Civility

Thanks for your "Let us all maintain a social equillibrium as we enter this election season." comment at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/2012 Roanoke Obama campaign speech. I appreciate your WP:CIVILITY. Peace, MPS (talk) 22:50, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

I am writing to tell you both thanks for the compliment and the barnstar. I am sending this exact same note to both Buster7 and Dennis Brown. After much soul searching and weighing of time commitments, I have decided to go ahead and help out at WP:WER. Ok, the truth: My wife said I could! I would not be here at all except for this particular project and one of its efforts, The Teahouse. The encouragement and instruction I got there got me through the difficult early times. Also, much credit goes to Bmusician, who graciously adopted me. You singled out some of my best efforts, but you should know that I have had some moments where I have been not so nice too. I had an especially ugly incident at Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard that I thought for sure was going to get me sanctioned, but I just let it drop and that was the end of it. I am hoping through my involvement with this project, I can learn how to get answers to questions like the one that took me there.

So, what do I do now? Gtwfan52 (talk) 23:19, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

• First and foremost----Thank your wife. A supportive spouse is invaluable. If she is like mine, she will help keep you calm when you start to "boil".
• Continue to do what you do and, as DB points out, have fun with it. A part of our pay (you are getting your payroll deposit, right?) should not be aggrevation. Myself, I welcome new editors, edit articles that I stumble upon while researching, support or oppose at {WP:RfA]]'s, roam around looking for fires to put out, keep fellow editor foccussed on being collaborators rather than adversaries, etc., etc., etc.
• My favorite quote lately is; “Let’s treat each other as if we plan to work side by side for many years to come. Let’s treat this work as if it’s one of the most important things on the Internet. Because, to some, it is.”
• Continue to teach when the opportunity shows itself. Most of your students will ignore you. But the ones that don't are treasures.

TRA! ```Buster Seven Talk 05:48, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

D Brown's reply from his talk

• You do what brings you joy. You help others, you can hang out and read a bit at WP:WER from time to time, you just do what comes natural. It should be fun and rewarding, so you do what you enjoy most, and you will be good at doing it. As for having a bad day, I've been here almost 6 years, rest assured, I've had bad days. I didn't go for being an admin until well over 5 years, and my first couple of years were a little rough. No one expect perfection, but we do appreciate good faith efforts to make Misplaced Pages a better place, and you seem a natural at that. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 23:27, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thank you for the encouragement. Still-24-45-42-125 (talk) 06:22, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Your welcome. But please note. My encouragement was toward your potential as an editor. Not as an argue-er. Almost always, the best thing to do with DRAMA is .......leave the room.```Buster Seven Talk 06:39, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Point taken. Unfortunately, when I edit the articles, I have to deal with edit-warring by the WikiProject Conservatism posse, which forces me to have lengthy, semi-productive policy debates on talk pages, which leads to dirty tricks to get me blocked. Still-24-45-42-125 (talk) 06:44, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Point Missed-----I have to deal with edit-warring by the WikiProject Conservatism posse. No you don't. I see you have asked User:DB for assistance. Great Idea. I'm sure his efforts will be the same as mine; to retain you as a quality editor...not to help you in your bickering with some isolated posse. We are Misplaced Pages collaborators not Internet adversaries.```Buster Seven Talk 06:56, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't see how to avoid it. It's very obvious that the false reports against me have been motivated by an attempt to remove me from editing controversial articles. The ridiculous one that claimed I made legal threats, for example, came from someone who disagreed with my edits on Paul Ryan. It came after a miscounted 3RR report from a posse member.

I have no interest in bickering with these people: I just want to edit these articles to make them accurate and neutral. The solution to keeping me -- and keeping the other people who've been scared off by the posse -- is to reign in the posse. Still-24-45-42-125 (talk) 07:05, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Buster, I am confused. If an editor "leaves the room" when drama erupts, such as facing a POV bully, then doesn't that leave the article to the bully editor(s)?! (Especially if the article is little trafficked, and there are not other supporting editors to help.) How does that work well? Ihardlythinkso (talk) 07:42, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

You are both in communication with Admin:Brown...I believe about the same situation/subject. He has shared much time with you, Ihts, and has provided some very good guidance. The “back and forth” between editors MUST be congenial. For generations, writers of all kinds have corresponded. In order to maintain a working relationship they rarely, if ever, attacked each other. We do not create articles or edit them in isolation. By "Leave the room" I don't mean back down....just "back up". When you stumble upon a hornets nest, you don't keep hitting it. You back up...for your own well-being. The hornets are not going to change. They like being hornets. You tried ANI. Neither of you are satisfied with the results. But many editors and admins saw what happened and will file it in their memory. I don't like bullies/hornets any more than you two do. I just have learned not to get stung. The article isn't going anywhere. Watch it and wait for com-patriots. WP editing should be enjoyable, not aggravating. ```Buster Seven Talk 08:14, 17 August 2012 (UTC)...ALso, If Paul Ryan is the article in question, it certainly is NOT "little trafficted". In fact,it may be in the Top 10 busiest article. If not now SOON. If you are going to edit Political articles, you can expect to continuelly have these run-ins. Sadly, its part of the current RL Political Landscape. ```Buster Seven Talk 08:34, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I was not implying article Paul Ryan. (That type article is not in my niche.) I haven't addressed this particular matter with User:Dennis Brown. I have some Qs without answers. It is possible there are no answers. User:Epipelagic has apty said how Randies create fear, whereby decent content editors succumb as they do not wish to become blocked in confrontations. The Randies leave messes that are becoming a hallmark of a failing WP. It could be there is no good answer. For example, User:John essay regarding how to handle incivil editors, by not responding, letting instead other editors defend you. That breaks down, when you are solo at the article, even after an RfC (in my case, initiated by others). I've asked numerous Qs and don't get straight answers. I don't think anyone really knows the answers. I can only conclude, it is a zoo here. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 09:02, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

There are many jobs at the Zoo. And Many Many happy workers. Pick a job that needs doing. And be happy. Leaving the Zoo is always an option. I love this Zoo. Maybe that's the difference. ```Buster Seven Talk 09:19, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

By "zoo", I mean hostile, hypocritical, abusive editing environment.

What you call "zoo" is just one of the hundreds (or is it hundreds of thousands) of enviroments here. I would suggest you leave the zoo and find an environment more condusive to your greatness. Or stay in the zoo and be fretful and unhappy. ```Buster Seven Talk 05:09, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you for participating in my RfA. I appreciate your insight and the amount of consideration you put into your participation there. Hopefully I'll continue to encounter you in the future, as you seem like somebody who genuinely cares for the maintenance of this site, rather than someone who's here merely as a pastime. Your passion for contributing to this vast database of knowledge is an admirable trait indeed. =)

Take care. Kurtis (talk) 17:02, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

You too!

		The Friendship Barnstar
		Seeing you editing via recent changes made me smile ```Deb Talk 12:37, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Fair warning ...

You SOOOO are going to pay for that Terry Bradshaw comment. signed A Pittsburgh Fan.

• Bradshaw was the first player selected in the Draft by the Steelers who drew the first pick in the draft after winning a coin flip with my beloved Chicago Bears. In my alternate universe he became the greatest Bear ever that was not named Walter Payton. Those 4 Super Bowl victories should have been as a Bear. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! ```Buster Seven Talk 22:51, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you (100k)

Thank you kindly for the beautiful new award! My edit counter suggests that I'm still a few hours short of hitting 100k, but I'll proudly accept it a bit early nonetheless. Have yourself a great day Buster, stay well, and happy editing!  -- WikHead (talk) 07:05, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

As you can see at Misplaced Pages talk:List of Wikipedians by number of edits#Count is off the count is off. Thats where I get my data so.....the award stays on your mantle. BTW, I see that you have managed to stay out of the drama at WP as evidenced by the extremely high article editing percentage at toolserver. I have never seen such a plum colored pie! You are a shining example to the rest of us. Nice to meet you. ```Buster Seven Talk 06:52, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

It's a pleasure meeting you as well Buster! Having first been attracted to Misplaced Pages mainly for the articles, I've been rather satisfied with my plum coloured pie as well! For RfA purposes however, I've noticed that pies of multiple flavours are often preferred. Which reminds me, ... you have a reply to your message waiting on my talk page. Thanks for the explanation of this week's generous edit count.  -- WikHead (talk) 16:47, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

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 Done ```Buster Seven Talk 13:05, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Re: Emkay Global

Hello there,in reply to your questions:

1. True. The respective talk page will be deleted along with its article. AFAIK "My Contributions" only show edits in existing articles, so edits in an article that is subsequently deleted will no longer show in your list.
2. This really depends on what is there to start with, I suspect. If you see potential (i.e. a real interest in contributing to WP in accordance with the guidelines) but some issues, everyone would probably be better off if someone took the opportunity to help the editor along. With vandals, marketing people or others along these lines, I usually don't even bother after dealing with the article itself. Anything else would be time better spent on other things. But that's just my personal view...

<sub>noisy</sub> jinx 00:03, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I've wasted more than a little time with "fools gold". I have found some real nuggets though. Not sure what they are up to now, but at the time they seemed to appreciate the helping hand. ```Buster Seven Talk 01:44, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

No 100k?

Maybe you missed me hit it? Or you still unnerved from our friendly content dispute back at Trayvon Martin? I was anticipating it too. Anyways, I'm wondering how you greet so many new users, I'm a part of WP Retention too, I was curious as my main area is in dispute resolution now, though I cannot figure out how to guide and mentor new users along. Any tips? ChrisGualtieri (talk) 03:32, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Before anything, I'm not un-nerved. I don't get un-nerved. I'm not sure, but I think you are referring to (and combining) two different things that I do. 1) I distribute the 100000 Edits Award when a fellow editor achieves that level. 2) I welcome new editors w/ {{Subst:Template:WikiProject Editor Retention/Welcome}}. I don't think 1000 welcomes in two years is alot. Tips?There is an essay that a fellow editor and I created at WP:First contact. Check that out for some background and then just start to welcome new users. My method is to scan the Recent changes page, find red-linked talks for Users that have already done a few edits (not "creation logs") but have not been welcomed yet, and I paste the WP:WER/Welcome template. For most, I don't add them to my watchlist. Sometimes, if I sense that the new editor is in a situation I may drop in afterward and give a softer explanation of the Rules, etc. The templates used for speedy and the like can have a hard edge for a novice user. I just like to soften the blow when possible. One thing Ive noticed recently is that other editors will show up and also be supportive of the new editors potential. And that's what it really is about. Their potential. They might be in the midst of a battle when you welcome them but they need to know that WP is a GIANT place with lots to do; they shouldn't get turned off by whatever little (compared to their potential greatness) difficulties they are having at the moment. Good luck. I assume you are reading todays WER chat about New Editors responding (or not responding). ```Buster Seven Talk 06:24, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, its why I was asking as I hit 100k awhile ago. Misplaced Pages:List of Wikipedians by number of edits #124, but I noticed it was out of date for awhile. It is not that special, but I was waiting with anticipation. I like the awards, its cool. Secondly, I'm not complaining about you welcoming new users, I noticed you welcomed a lot of users who become regular editors, and I like that. Whenever I see the new changes page, I get no idea, and I didn't want to welcome accounts that never have any activity. Sorry if I caused any confusion. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 02:21, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. Hehe sorry, I felt left out. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 02:44, 28 August 2012 (UTC);;

Im at my son's and his MAC just lost a loooooong explanation and observation. when I get home tommorrow I'll be in touch. Sorry for the delay. ```Buster Seven Talk 03:00, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Haha, I understand now. I didn't think I was confusing you either, but yeah, that's how mistakes blow up quickly on Misplaced Pages, the wrong sense of a few words can really make a situation difficult to understand. I want to welcome more people to Misplaced Pages; was wondering if there was some magic list of new editors who are being productive... page.. thing.. or something like that. Guess not. Anyways, thanks for the treat! Munch munch! ChrisGualtieri (talk) 02:12, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

The magic list that I use is the "recent changes" page (accessed on the left of us in the menu under INTERACTION.) I look for a redlink talk that seems active and then check their contributions. If there's more than just a few, I send them one of many available welcomes. I'm currently using the WER Welcome. Theres an ongoing discussion at WER/talk in which other editors have presented other welcoming options. Twnkle has a generic welcome that does the job. Or just drop in on their page, say hello, good luck, call me if ya need me, and move on. As long as they get the message that they have someone to ask when the shit hits the fan, weve done a good thing. BTW, nice to meet you. TRA! ```Buster Seven Talk 05:47, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

DRN needs your help!

Hey there Buster7, I noticed you've listed yourself as a volunteer at the dispute resolution noticeboard but you haven't been very active there lately - I was hoping if you had some spare time if you could take a look there and offer some assistance. Thanks again for your help :-) Steven Zhang 11:25, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm working on my new mantra------"Be Bold!". I AM studying the DRN noticeboard to see how others handle it. Cold feet I guess. Vacation soon, but I'll jump in when I return. Thanks. ```Buster Seven Talk 18:36, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hey Buster7, you sent me a message yesterday and I think I'm supposed to respond here. Thank you for the offer of help, but I think I've got the swing of this thing. Going to try and post today. Thanks for the welcome! User:Schumevan 8:04, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Good Luck. ```Buster Seven Talk 22:41, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

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WER assistance

Hi, I noticed that you added a WER welcome at User talk:Malik khohhar. I wonder if you would care to follow-through by reviewing the thread at Talk:Khokhar#Firishta. I appreciate that the subject matter is esoteric but you may have an opinion in relation to the WER goals. - Sitush (talk) 11:55, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

The subject matter is of no consequence when the more important matter is the negative interplay between editors. Buster Seven Talk 22:40, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

100k award

Hi - Very many thanks for the 100K award. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 22:35, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

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Because of your interest in dispute resolution,, I am inviting you to comment on the following RfC:

Talk:Monty Hall problem#Conditional or Simple solutions for the Monty Hall problem?

This dispute has been going on for over ten years and there have been over 1,300,000 words posted on the article talk page (by comparison, all of the Harry Potter books together total 1,084,170 words). Over the years the dispute has been through multiple noticeboards, mediators, and even the Arbitration Committee without resolving the conflict, so a lot of wisdom is needed here. --Guy Macon (talk) 00:39, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Kaleen IV

The article Kaleen IV has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Misplaced Pages policy, all newly created biographies of living persons must have at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article. The nominator also raised the following concern:

All biographies of living people created after March 18, 2010, must have references.

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I'm guessing you probably aren't interested, but technically, you created the first revision.--Rockfang (talk) 22:41, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Correct. I'm not interested. I did some editing more as a guide for the new editor. Thanks for the heads-up. ```Buster Seven Talk 06:25, 11 September 2012 (UTC) (who

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• EdwardsBot (talk) 04:39, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Mitt_Romney_presidential_campaign,_2012&diff=prev&oldid=512279446. Ussr Moffits edit. ARZ copletely changes the focus and drops Moffets reedference```Buster Seven Talk 15:35, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

• *It actually matters very little whether the project members are coordinating to combat what they perceive as a "liberal bias", or simply coordinating to push a right-wing POV. The practical result is the same: this project organizes editors along specific ideological grounds, and coordinates their efforts to advance that ideology. A WikiProject which explicitly organizes editors by partisan political ideology, while not categorically forbidden, has an immense potential for abuse. Not only have project members failed to address that potential constructively and proactively, but they've consistently and stridently refused to believe that any such potential for abuse exists.

  The more Wikipedians observe this project in action, the more expressions of concern (like those above) you're going to receive - because the way this project currently functions is inimical to Misplaced Pages's policies and best practices, and there appears to be zero desire on the part of active project members to grapple with good-faith concerns. Instead, in keeping with the general battleground mentality embodied in this project, the response has been to bunker down, circle the wagons, and hit back aggressively at any concerns that are voiced. MastCell 17:26, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Welcome

Some people are not new-comers here but reincidentes. All the best. --E4024 (talk) 14:49, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. My welcomes are person to person...I go to recent changes and search out redlinked talk pages and give them a roadmap. So....sometimes I leave a Welcome Basket at the door of a grey-haired old veteran such as yourself. Pleasure to meet 'cha. ```Buster Seven Talk 14:57, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

I do the same as you. I am here since April this year but have seen so many people not interested in developing the encyclopedia but "not only trying to show that their country, culture, food, wife etc is the most beautiful" but also trying to convince me that mine are ugly! I am afraid this sickness is contagious and although trying hard to keep me out of it I recognise I am a human being and sometimes get bored of being attacked all the time. (I suffer especially when they attack my intelligence and add insult to injury quite often.) I am really happy to meet you, virtual and all but I came here -also- to make friends while learning and sharing info. All the best and take care, and sorry to have taken your time and space... (P.S. Do not hesitate to delete my talk if you wish so.) Bye. --E4024 (talk) 15:05, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

From Central Asia to the Balkans, the sweet ol' baklava. For your friendship... E4024 (talk) 15:36, 18 September 2012 (UTC)