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Linking "Warm Kitty", the song, to "Big Bang Theory", the television show

I'd like to see the above happen. The episodes that include this song are my favorites of BBT. It's also interesting that the title is referred to differently on the show than the actual title. It's a fun thing for me and one reason that I'm taking the time to write this is that I met my son's girlfriend this evening and it is her favorite show too, and she knows the lyrics. I think a lot of people would like to see this. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.224.229.177 (talk • contribs) 02:31, 5 February 2012‎

Naming conventions for list articles

Feedback requested Presently, Category:Lists of songs by authors or performers contains a hodge-podge of naming schemes, including "List of songs", "List of songs recorded by ", etc. Could someone suggest some streamlined fashion for how these should be named? For what it's worth, it also seems like mixing composers together with performers is a bad idea: part of the problem will be solved if we can extract "List of songs with lyrics by " from "List of songs played on"—those are two evidently and significantly different schemes. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:53, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

I agree that mixing composers together with performers is a bad idea, and I welcome an attempt to standardise the names of these articles. How about dividing the category into, say, two subcategories, Category:Lists of songs by author and Category:Lists of songs by performer? Also, my preference would be for the article titles to be in the form "List of songs recorded by " or "List of songs written by ", as the alternatives are more likely to be confused. For example, a reader could quite easily think that List of Free songs refers to all songs for which the copyright has expired, or that List of Fun songs comprises songs that are, well, fun to listen to. Similarly, "List of Bob Dylan songs" would not make clear whether this was a list of songs either recorded or written by Dylan. Therefore, I feel that the clearer and more appropriate titles for these articles would be "List of songs recorded by Free", "List of songs recorded by Fun", "List of songs written by Bob Dylan", "List of songs recorded by Bob Dylan", etc. Thanks, A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 21:50, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

It should be a "List of songs recorded by " as often artists will record songs by other artist. The naming convention "List of songs by " is confusing. The naming convention should be such that you can disambiguate between List of songs: "written by ", "recorded by ", "performed by " though i am less happy with the later because I associate perform with performing live on stage. etc. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 15:36, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

• WP Policy say that article names should follow WP:NDESC and WP:PRECISION. "List of songs" and/or "List of songs by " do NOT meet the criteria of these two policies, being neither descriptive nor precise. This leaves the debate at how we should differentiate, whether by recording, by performance or are there other suggestions out there? --Richhoncho (talk) 12:22, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

WP:NDESC has no application here. There's nothing non-neutral or judgmental about either title. WP:PRECISION could apply to this case had the original title been something like " songs." "List of songs" meets WP:PRECISION since it clearly indicates whose songs are being listed without ambiguity. "List of songs" can be reasonably and unambiguously interpreted as a complete, general list of songs recorded by an artist during their career.Father McKenzie (talk) 20:05, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

If it is so clear to you that it means "recorded," (as opposed to "performed by" or "written and recorded by", say?) why can't we specify recorded? I cannot fathom anybody's objection to clarity. My point still stands, "List of songs" fails WP:PRECISE, saying as it does, titles should be precise enough to unambiguously define the topical scope of the article, but no more precise than that and WP:NDESC states, "In some cases a descriptive phrase is best as the title (e.g., Population of Canada by year). These are often invented specifically for articles, and should reflect a neutral point of view". If this was not the case the following recent move would not have been necessary. --Richhoncho (talk) 21:39, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

I disagree that "List of songs" is unambiguous. I believe that a reader could quite reasonably think that, say, "List of Boston songs" refers to songs about the city Boston, rather than songs by the American rock band Boston – they wouldn't make that mistake if the article's title were "List of songs recorded by Boston". Would "List of Elvis Presley songs" refer to songs that Presley recorded, songs that he wrote, songs about him, or some combination of all three? A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 13:14, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

• A note regarding the existence of this discussion has been placed on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Lists, Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Music and Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style/Music. It would be nice to close out once and for all. --Richhoncho (talk) 06:51, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

I came here specifically to open a discussion on this very topic, so I'm glad to see someone else already has—and so recently! I would like to state my preference for "songs recorded by X" and "songs written by X", but I also agree that "songs performed by X" can be misleading. Perhaps "songs featuring X" would be better? —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 17:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

• "List of songs recorded by X" is unambiguous and IMHO clearer than "list of X songs". It would also make more sense to have one category for lists by author and one for lists by performer, I think. Jafeluv (talk) 10:13, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Recap

This discussion has been ongoing for two weeks and notice has been placed on a number of related projects. I think we now have to move this along while at the same time welcoming and encouraging more comments.

Barring one contributor, we have all plumped for “List of Songs recorded by .” This seems to suggest that all the entries in the present category should be along the following lines – List of songs (action) by (person).

I am reading a consensus to empty the main category Category:Lists of songs by authors or performers, diffusing the various entries into relevant sub-categories of songs. Am I correct or are we considering deletion of the category?

Does anybody have any proposal what should be included in the guidelines for WP:SONG to close this out? --Richhoncho (talk) 05:52, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

• Question Is there a difference between a List of songs by Performer X and the articles entitled Discography of Performer X as in found in Category:Discographies. There are at least 2000 articles in the category. Is there overlap here? --Mike Cline (talk) 22:18, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

  I believe discographies usually list releases such as albums, singles etc., not every song recorded by the artist. Jafeluv (talk) 22:56, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

  • Discographies are for released albums, released singles and songs from albums that chart. List of songs performed/recorded by XYZ are indexs of all of the songs recorded by an artist, and should include songs from every album + b-sides from singles. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 23:40, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
    • And sometimes, if properly sourced, songs that the artist has recorded that remains unreleased or has leaked online. Zac  02:00, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Songs that were remixed for their single release

Right I have a question about Spectrum (song) by Florence and the Machine. The album version is called "Spectrum" and the song was released as the fourth single from Ceremonials. However the song was remixed by Calvin Harris, and the remixed version titled "Spectrum (Say My Name)" was the one that was serviced to radio and released commercially. It is the one that appears on all the charts. Its my view that introduction should explain this and that everything about the song (the infobox etc.) should refer to the remix as this is the commercial single. I also think the page should be located at Spectrum (Say My Name). I'm in the middle of expanding/restructuring in a sandbox but it'd be usedful to see what people think? — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 21:36, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

From what you say I think you already have the solution. --Richhoncho (talk) 08:54, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

My Kazakhstan (song)

My Kazakhstan (song) has been requested to be renamed, see Talk:My Kazakhstan (song) -- 76.65.128.252 (talk) 23:28, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/In_My_Merry_Oldsmobile

The name Johnny is spelled incorrectly in the page; the original song lyrics shows it as Johnnie and someone should fix this as I don't know how and too old to figure it out. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.140.32.62 (talk) 15:02, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

"Alouette", "Down by the Station", and "Little Bunny Foo Foo"

I've read all three articles. It seems to me that they all use basically the same melody, and the articles ought to state this. Based on the articles, I assume that the orignal source for the tune is the French Canadian one, "Alouette". Perhaps the two other articles could be edited to indicate this. 71.38.239.116 (talk) 16:41, 10 September 2012 (UTC)Thomas Thurston, tnthurston@msn.com

List of 2000s Christian Songs number ones

An article that falls under the scope of this project, List of 2000s Christian Songs number ones, has been nominated for featured list. Interested members can review and comment here. Toa Nidhiki05 21:56, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

2010s pop song stubs

• Would someone please weigh in on this? Erpert 15:09, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Music video vs. single

Is it explicitly stated anywhere, or is there a previous consensus on a project page, stating that if a song was only released as a music video that doesn't make it a single? If not, could we open up that discussion now? Fezmar9 (talk) 22:49, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Alternatively, could someone please comment at Talk:Sleigh Bells discography? Thanks. Fezmar9 (talk) 05:08, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

FA Candidate

Hello. Red Dress (song) is currently a featured article candidate and your imput here would be very much appreciated. Thank you. Till 05:26, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

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