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Your edits to Armenian genocide related articles

I apologize for blocking you too fast. The edits you were making to articles related to the Armenian genocide were very similar to edits made by notrious editwarriors and sockpuppeteers. When I saw your edithistory however you weren't so similar that I could justify a block per WP:DUCK. In the future please don't remove categories having to do with the Armenian genocide from articles without discussion.·Maunus·ƛ· 16:07, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Stop adding unreferenced controversial biographical content

Please stop adding unreferenced controversial biographical content to articles or any other Misplaced Pages page. Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Misplaced Pages policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 20:39, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Don't just remove sourced sections in controversial articles

Please don't just remove sourced sections in controversial articles without discussing it first on talk, as you did at Ethnic cleansing. Continued removal of sourced information like this may result in a block. Thanks. Fainites scribs 13:33, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Text and references removal in article Sari Gelin

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Changes to the Eurovision Song Contest 2012 article

Thank you for your contributions to the Eurovision Song Contest 2012 article. However I have reverted your change in the status of Armenia to confirmed, since the source you were using dates from June 2011, and we have a more recent source from August expressing doubt on if Armenia will participate due to security issues. In most circumstances, the newest source takes precedence. CT Cooper · talk 10:17, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

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Could other users check User:MarshallBagramyan expropriation of the entire Kars article.

Could other users check User:MarshallBagramyan expropriation of the entire Kars article. This user constantly erases the other versions of the name of the city Kars in other languages (Template:Lang-hy Kars or Ղարս Ghars, Template:Lang-az, Georgian: ყარსი Kars, Template:Lang-ku, Template:Lang-ru Kars) , and only lets the Armenian version of the name to stay (Template:Lang-hy Kars or Ղարս Ghars). Unfortunately this user's ethnocentric POV pushing by ignoring the history of the city, after the Armenian era, is still allowed to stay. He even defends it in the city article talk page. Could you follow the Kars article and prevent the constant nationalist POV reversals and editions of User:MarshallBagramyan. Thank you.

User:MarshallBagramyan has started again erasing the city of Kars's name in other languages apart from its Armenian name. Could all users check and revert this user's ethnocentric POV pushing by ignoring the history of the city. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.224.28.56 (talk) 17:39, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

re Shushi Province

Please do not make unilateral, obviously contentious moves. Such a thing needed to be discussed before doing, and reverting it was proper. The argument over whether or not the city is named Shusha or Shushi is valid; but the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic has designated a particular province as "Shushi" and there can be no argument over that. No one is saying the Azerbaijani rayon is named Shushi, in fact I don't think anyone has suggested that. --Golbez (talk) 14:19, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

I made a map of Cyprus like 4 years ago that I used the Greek names because I didn't know there were Turkish names. And if you aren't speaking specifically to my map then your statement is useless. There's no reason to think that this article should have been moved to "Shusha Province" on three Wikipedias (were there more? If so, please tell me or undo them), nationalism or not. It's simply *false*, and I can think of no reason to ever make it unless you're either a nationalist or a vandal. Is there a third option you'd like to share? --Golbez (talk) 14:39, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

No, I don't understand what you mean by what the French[REDACTED] is doing. Also, we aren't talking about the city. We're talking about an NKR Province. You can't say their name is incorrect, they can name it whatever they want, as it's merely a political construct. --Golbez (talk) 15:01, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Right. Shusha is a city in Nagorno-Karabakh/Azerbaijan, named "Shushi" by locals. Shusha Rayon is an Azerbaijani political construct. Shushi Province is a Karabakhi political construct. I'm not seeing why you don't understand this. No one is saying the Azeri rayon is not named Shusha, what you are saying is that the Karabakhi government has named a province "Shusha" which is simply false. They are allowed to name their provinces whatever they want. The United States has a state named Alaska, the Japanese have a prefecture named Hokkaido, the Azeris have a rayon named Agdam, and the Karabakhis have a province named Shushi. What part of this are you missing? --Golbez (talk) 15:25, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

I intervened to stop a incorrect move of the article on the province; where the article on the city is located is a subject that requires discussion, and unfortunately I don't know French. :) Whether the city is named Shusha or Shushi is open to discussion and interpretation; that the province is named Shushi (and the rayon is named Shusha) is simple fact. --Golbez (talk) 15:58, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Making unilateral edits

I can forgive you if you did not read my latest comment on the Kars talk page here. But I don't think after all the reverts that have been taking place on that article that you would be ignorant of the importance to discuss the inclusion of names in the lead section. I have stated it several times already, but a consensus reached a long time ago agreed that only the Armenian name could be kept. The inclusion of Azerbaijani is not well-sustained (on the sole basis of present residence) and Kars has never had a substantial Kurdish population and cannot be considered a Kurdish city today in the sense of Van or Diyarbekir. Now, I invited Verman1 to initiate a discussion and present his argument several times and he yet continued to edit war and did not bother to provide his reasons. You have never contributed anything to a talk page but you're welcome to start a new discussion; otherwise, ignoring the pleas of another editor in so blatant a manner is just discourteous and shows to others that you are not interested in working together to improve these articles. Regards, --Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 19:09, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Can you please show me where exactly you got consensus that only Armenian name should be kept? I can not find consent of all parties involved. --Verman1 (talk) 18:40, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Erivan

The city of Yerevan has an important Turkish heritage. Therefor the Turkish name should be included in it. I don't understand why you change it, but before changing I suggest you post a notice in the articles talk page. (Central Data Bank (talk))

• Yes the Seljuks have many ruins there, however it was under Ottoman rule for many years. I am not defending Turkish irredentism by any means, but Turkey is the successor of the Ottoman Empire with is the closest to the Seljuks (some may count count Azerbaijan too). Therefor I stand by my claim. Also the Khanate you asked about is Persian not Turkish. Regards (Central Data Bank (talk) 18:22, 16 January 2012 (UTC))

Minor edits

Hi there. Can I ask that you please don't mark edits as minor unless they really are minor? In Kars for example, we are still working for consensus, and while minor edits can be used for obvious vandalism, they should not be used to revert someone with whom you're involved in an edit war. --Quintucket (talk) 15:05, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Could all Azeri users check User:Yerevanci's and User:Nocturnal781's relentless POV additions, lately in the Ermenikend article.

Could all Azeri users check User:Yerevanci's and User:Nocturnal781's relentless POV additions, lately in the Ermenikend article.

These users constantly change the correct article name of Ermenikend into the incorrect name of "Armenikend". Could all Azeri users prevent the taking over of articles about Azerbaijan by Armenian users with their biased nationalistic POV agenda. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.224.158.240 (talk) 12:24, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

People of Kazakh(stani) descent

You created a new category with a name and parent categories very similar to those of an existing category, moved the contents of the existing category into the new category, and tagged the old one as empty (but the wrong way). That's our very definition of attempting to move without discussion. Please do not empty categories without first getting consensus at WP:CFD. Nyttend (talk) 14:19, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Your claim is not a reason for speedy deletion or for violating our categorisation policies. Nyttend (talk) 14:41, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

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Discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Category_names#Supranational_.2F_historical_country_categories

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Category_names#Supranational_.2F_historical_country_categories. KarlB (talk) 19:15, 12 April 2012 (UTC)Template:Z48

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for making more than 1,000 edits to improve the 💕. Keep up the good work. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 17:44, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Not tired of hearing it at all! Glad it means something. :) Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 20:47, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

re

Eh, it seems sound to me. That it is indigenous to Armenia appears to not be in dispute, and the term appears to come from Armenian. The word for it in the other local languages is supplied right there in the lede, so why should Azeri and Turkish get higher billing than Russian and Georgian? In a situation like this I have no problem with just having the language the term originated in and the rest treated in text. Also, you should know better than to revert without supplying a reason. If my assumptions of the above (where the item and word originated from) are incorrect based on my roughly 12 seconds of looking at the article, then I apologize but that's how it appears to me, if there truly is a conflict in these statements of fact then perhaps an RFC is in order. Or, discussing on the talk page, which I note neither of you has done at all. --Golbez (talk) 17:10, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

And both Azeri and Turkish in the lede. So perhaps the solution for you is to also remove the Farsi name from the template to even things up. In fact, I'll do that. --Golbez (talk) 17:29, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

June 2012

Before removing a category from an article, as you did to Template:Eurovision Song Contest 2012, please make sure that the subject of the article no longer belongs in the category that you specified according to Misplaced Pages's categorization guidelines. Categories must also be supported by the article's verifiable content. Categories should only be removed if they are deemed incorrect for the subject matter. Thank you. Wesley☀Mouse 14:57, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

August 2012

Please do not add or change content without verifying it by citing reliable sources, as you did to Alexis Nicolas. Please review the guidelines at Misplaced Pages:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. GiantSnowman 16:35, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Apart from him being born in England and sources saying he is English? GiantSnowman 19:17, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Baklava

Opps! Sorry, my fault, I thought that you removed from the list. Actually someone put back there, but you are right: we removed it already a couple of time from the lead. Sorry again! Alex2006 (talk) 10:05, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Adding inappropriate categories

Stop adding inappropriate categories to Turkish speaking countries. As I've already explained, only countries where Turkish is a majority language qualify. And using hypocritical accusations is also not acceptable. Kostja (talk) 11:19, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

You can delete on Misplaced Pages but you can't change the facts in real life. I am not hypocritical. I created category of "Kurdish-speaking countries and territories" and Armenian-speaking countries and territories..etc You stay with your negative nationalism. Esc2003 (talk) 11:31, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Please stop with the hysterics. Your categories do not fit the criteria I quoted, and this is what matters here. And no one in real life would call a country where Turks are small minority Turkish speaking. Kostja (talk) 11:38, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Is Turkish official language in Bulgaria? Esc2003 (talk) 11:41, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

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Re:Khojaly

No, and the administrator does not disagree. It is just that the renaming is not classified as speedy and the page should be nominated here instead. Parishan (talk) 05:34, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Arbitration Enforcment warning

FYI — Preceding unsigned comment added by George Spurlin (talk • contribs) 10:01, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Gurgen Margaryan

Why did you revert the source request at the article:Gurgen Margaryan. There is a claim that may not be true and simply, I want to see the source. Do you feel that you are offended because of investigation of the source? Then, read WP pillars. Cheers 86.36.66.12 (talk) 09:42, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

KD'lik?

Selamlar. Sence bu ve bu maddeler KD midir? İkincisi oldukça ilginç geldi :)--Rapsar (talk) 17:41, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

İlk bağlantıdaki büyük olasılıkla kayda değer değil, ikincisi için başkalarına danışayım. Teşekkürler Esc2003 (talk) 18:01, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Bir de şu var. Ayrı bir konu olabilir mi? Biraz tez niteliğinde de geldi, başlık bakımından. İlgili maddelere paylaştırılabilir belki içerikleri?--Rapsar (talk) 21:15, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Makedon'a sordum, cevap bekliyorum. Esc2003 (talk) 16:17, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Cevap burada. Makedon sizinle aynı fikirde. Esc2003 (talk) 18:45, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Bu KD mi? İyice Takabeg'e benzedim ama..:)--Rapsar (talk) 10:35, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Kayda değer olmalı. Kaynak eksikliği var ama bunun giderilmesi için SAS'a çıkartmak doğru olur mu bilemiyorum. Ben kaynak bulmaya çalışacağım fırsat buldukça. Esc2003 (talk) 16:17, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Uygarlıkları SAS gösterecek misin? Teo için de yeterli sonuç bulamadığımdan bir şüpheye düşmüştüm :) Şu olay güzelmiş, bizde de olması gerekir (Oluşturmayı planlamıştım ama... :)--Rapsar (talk) 12:01, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Maddedeki bölümlerin iki maddeye uygun şekilde yerleştirilmesini bekleyelim bir süre. Ben birkaç kişiye daha sorayım. Esc2003 (talk) 12:18, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Terörizm

Selamlar. Kategori tartışmaları sayfasını boşuna oluşturmadık değil mi? :) Böyle durumlar konuşulsun diye var orası. Sırf silme yetkisi var diye silmesi yanlış. Hizmetli olmayan biri benzer bir şeyi yapsa, sil etiketi eklese ne olur acaba? Öte yandan kalmasını mantıklı buluyorum bunların. Ülkeler listesi diye madde var, tonla. Liechestein Slovakya'yı tanımıyor mesela, sırf bu var diye liste oluşturmayalım, Slovakya'yı da ülkeler kategorisine eklemeyelim. Bence mantıksız :)--Rapsar (talk) 15:06, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

İki hizmetli ve istifa etmiş eski bir hizmetli de yapılanı yanlış bulmuyor. "Pratik bir karar"mış. Topluluk da pek ilgi göstermediğine göre daha fazla bu olayın üstüne düşmem gibi geliyor. Şimdiye dek taraflı bir kullanıcı profili çizmişim demek ki sözümün değeri pek yok. Esc2003 (talk) 19:41, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Bu arada selamlar, iyi akşamlar.. :) Esc2003 (talk) 19:43, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

İşte en başından beri benim karşı olduğum olay bu. Kim olursa olsun, Vikipedi gibi kararların topluca alındığı/alınması gerektiği ortamda keyfiyete karşıyım. Elli kişiyle tartıştım bu konuyu zamanında. Orada o tartışma sayfaları boşa durmuyor, politikaları biz boşuna oluşturmuyoruz. Pratik olsun, zamandan kazanalım gerekçesiyle olmaz bu işler. Çünkü sen tek başına olaya bakıyorsun, elli tane insan var orada, çok farklı düşünceler var, çok farklı bakış açıları var. Al işte, daha ikinci kişide (sen) zıt fikir çıktı. E ne olacak şimdi? Hayır, tartışmayı devam ettirmek de bir şey kazandırmıyor, aksine "katbettiriyor", anladın onu. İyi geceler.--Rapsar (talk) 20:19, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

WP:MMA

Thanks for helping to make MMA articles on[REDACTED] better! In September 168 people made a total of 956 edits to MMA articles. I noticed you havn't listed yourself on the WikiProject Mixed martial arts Participants page. Take a look, sign up, and don't forget to say hi on the talk page. Kevlar (talk) 03:40, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Buz pateni

Selamlar. Bunu gördüm de, önerinin yanlış olduğunu düşünüyorum. Sporun adı buz pateni. Sporu yapana ise buz patenci deniyor, buz patencisi ifadesini ise buz patenci satan(!) dükkan gibi düşünebiliriz :P Bu bağlamda buz patenci ifadesinin çoğulu buz patenciler olmakta. Benzer örnek olarak aklıma şu an eski kelimesi geldi (eskici-eskiciler). Yanlış mı düşünüyorum acaba?--Rapsar (talk) 18:19, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Selam, buz patenciler denildiğinde patenci kişiler nitelendiriliyor sanki. Kıl patenci, hıyar patenci :) Hayvan eğitimcisi, hayvan eğitimci...-cı, -ci, -cu, -cü aynı zamanda ilerici, sağcı, tutucu gibi bir düşünceye ait olma durumunu belirtmek için de kullanılıyor mesela. Sadece satma eylemiyle sınırlı değil. Ben gerekçeyi yumuşatayım en iyisi. Diğer görüşlere de bakalım. Teşekkürler. Esc2003 (talk) 03:39, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Categories

Any ethnicity-related category should be supported by a cited statement in the article. Thanks. Zagalejo^^^ 20:56, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Look at this. Bosniak population %73 in Sjenica. Undo your change please -- Esc2003 (talk) 16:36, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

But that means 27% aren't. And those numbers are from 2002 - over 20 years after Hedo himself was born. We can't be adding content based on assumptions and guesswork. We need a source that flat out says that Turkoglu is of Bosniak descent. This is basic Misplaced Pages policy (WP:V, WP:NOR, etc). Zagalejo^^^ 23:34, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

We have source (Boşnak savaşı, Bosna da gurur duydu). OK now? -- Esc2003 (talk) 18:12, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

OK, that'll work. Thanks for finding those! Zagalejo^^^ 00:15, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

October 2012

Before adding a category to an article, as you did to EOKA B, please make sure that the subject of the article really belongs in the category that you specified according to Misplaced Pages's categorization guidelines. Categories must also be supported by the article's verifiable content. Categories may be removed if they are deemed incorrect for the subject matter. Thank you. Please do add previously deleted categories to articles. 03:16, 17 April 2011 SchuminWeb (talk | contribs) deleted page Category:Anti-Turkism (G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion using TW) Δρ.Κ.  04:11, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Greek-Cypriot extremists committed massacres against Turkish-Cypriots in Maratha, Santalaris, Aloda, Tochni and Kiti after the start of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus on July 20, 1974. Esc2003 (talk) 04:14, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Misplaced Pages, as you did at User talk:Dr.K.. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Δρ.Κ.  04:16, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

What is this :) --Esc2003 (talk) 04:18, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

My edit summary was based on this. One of the many times this category was deleted by admins. However, as I explained on my talk I did not see that you actually reverted the cat in this instance. Sorry about that. Δρ.Κ.  04:41, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

I removed that category before your warning. Armenian terrorist attacks have not so strong Anti-Turkish sentiments. However, especially Nazi attacks have this reason. And many Greek Cypriots attacked with Anti-Turkish sentiment in 1960's-1970's.

I understand and in that one, particular instance I didn't see that you removed it. But I saw the other articles and since you were using Hotcat to add it I was concerned that this could continue on a massive scale, hence the warnings. The problem is that this category was deleted as part of a deletion discussion: Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_April_15#Category:Anti-Turkism. Adding it in any article is not allowed by policy. As far as the anti-Turkish, anti-Hellenic or anti-Anything actions, these actions happened and are still happening all over the globe. I was not making a political statement by removing this category from the other articles. I just wanted to let you know about its previous deletion and the policy regarding its addition to any article. Δρ.Κ.  12:19, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Istanbul

Hi there. Would you mind having a look at the present pic discussion at the Istanbul article and say your choice? Thanks. --E4024 (talk) 23:20, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Turkish Armenians in the US

For people who don't know much about the Armenian history it can create some confusion as if it is about people of mixed Armenian and Turkish descent. But if you decide to keep it, I would recommend to rename it to "American people of Turkish Armenian descent" to make it sound better.

Also, virtually all Armenian American that came to the US before the 1980s were in fact Turkish Armenians and I can't remember any prominent Armenian American that isn't a Genocide survivor or a descendant of one. A question come to my mind, how do you define "American people of Armenian-Turkish descent"? Americans that were born in the Ottoman Empire/Turkey and are of Armenian ethnicity, or American who were born in the US and have some Turkish Armenian roots?

Let's say Raffi Hovannisian, what categories does he apply to? He was born in California to American born parents, whose parents were Armenians from the Ottoman Empire. Is he considered American of Turkish Armenian descent? --Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 16:32, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Well, you can keep it. I have no problem with it, but I don't see any reason to keep it, because the category "Americans of Armenian descent" is enough for me.--Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 18:12, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Category:Bulgarian Turks -> Category:Bulgarian people of Turkish descent_Category:Bulgarian_people_of_Turkish_descent-2012-11-23T20:54:00.000Z">

Category:Bulgarian Jews & Category:Bulgarian people of Jewish descent???? --Esc2003 (talk) 20:54, 23 November 2012 (UTC)_Category:Bulgarian_people_of_Turkish_descent"> _Category:Bulgarian_people_of_Turkish_descent">

If you ask me, the category "Bulgarian Jews" also has to be changed. The Categories like "Bulgarian people of Jewish descent" and "Bulgarian people of Jewish descent" are the most common way to identify ethnic descent within Misplaced Pages. If you want you can change the Category "Bulgarian Jews" to "Bulgarian people of Jewish descent".

If you have any further questions please ask.

Looppushh (talk) 21:30, 23 November 2012 (UTC)_Category:Bulgarian_people_of_Turkish_descent"> _Category:Bulgarian_people_of_Turkish_descent">

Von Hugel

I will invite you a plate of high-quality Turkish baklava -of the brand that has sales in neighbouring countries- with kaymak from Afyon on top if you take this 3rr warrior (other than being the new "Thinkfood") to the concerned board. I would do it myself if I knew how to... All the best. --E4024 (talk) 21:07, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

I did get the sock blocked all by myself, although for only 24 hours, but the baklava is all yours. Next time I will try to add some kaymak on it. E4024 (talk) 21:30, 26 November 2012 (UTC)