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== Hey Mark ==

I was wondering if I could talk you into undoing the blocks to Nikki and Andy. I've seen both of them around for a long time, and I think they are both pretty reasonable people - and now with some discussion on the article talk page going .. I think some of the back and forth can be stopped without the blocks staying in place. If "please" makes a difference ... "Please" ... :) — <small><span style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 18:41, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Revision as of 18:41, 31 December 2012

Every day, we lose what the wrongly blocked would have given that day. And a little bit of our souls.

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The llama of drama is all tired out,
time to give it a rest.

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Lorry Girl

I have created an article named Lorry Girl and it has been deleted by you. The deletion tag said that the article lacks external references. At that time the references have not been available since the film was not projected. Now the film has been previewed woldwidely in over 40 centers and plenty of references are available. I request you to refix the page and I will put the references too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonisoni (talk • contribs) 07:04, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I'll move the article to your userspace so you can add references and update the page, then we can think about whether it meet the WP:NFILM guideline. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:50, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
Ok, the article is at User:Sonisoni/Lorry Girl now. Let me know when you've updated and added references, thanks. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:53, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. I have updated the page, added references and finished it. Please check and inform if anything more to be added for the article to be valid.
  • Comment. I kind of stumbled upon this by accident while checking on some old messages I'd put on various talk pages. I'm just commenting to say that I'm going to do a little maintenance work on the AfC article, moving sources up in the article. No opinion either way on whether it meets WP:NFF or WP:NFILM.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 18:01, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Ok, thanks a lot. I pinged MQS about this too. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:03, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of article about Miko Kung Fu

Dear Mark,

I created an article about the martial art I have been training for the last 6 years - Miko Kung Fu. This article provided some basic information about the style and my intention was later on to add some more details concerning its history, specifics and relation to other martial arts. The credibility of the information could be checked easily at the official internet sites of the Miko Kung Fu schools across Europe, that I referred to.

However I saw that you deleted this article. Could you, please, explain why? The article was based purely on facts and there were no personal opinions expressed. Could you, please tell me, why I shouldn't consider this as censorship from your side.

Additionally - I see this deletion as an act of discrimination. If there are articles about Karate, Aikido, Ving Tsun, Capoeira and other martial arts, which is the objective reason that there cannot be an article about Miko Kung Fu?

It is hard to create something and obviously - it's very easy to destroy it. If there were some problems with the content, why didn't advise on them to be corrected on the first place? I don't understand how this corresponds with the values of Misplaced Pages - "The free Encyclopedia"...

Herewith I am asking you restore the article I wrote about Miko Kung Fu. Thank you in advance!

Regards,

Teodor Totev — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kestenite (talk • contribs) 19:32, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello, your article was deleted because there was a consensus (WP:CON) that it was not notable (WP:N). We define notability as "significant coverage in reliable sources" (see WP:GNG & WP:RS for more). To have the article restored, you'll have to show notability by providing example of coverage. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 21:17, 1 December 2012 (UTC)


Hi Mark, I have referred with direct links to 3 different official internet sites from three different countries (!). On each one there were trainers' names, addresses, phone numbers, e-mails, photos of the groups, history of the relevant club, etc. How is this not notable enough for you? Additionally there many other internet sites and facebook pages of the clubs. Not to mention all the information in forums and specialized martial arts internet sites. There are also numerous videos in the internet.

Please, advise how the below is not significant and not reliable enough to you:

Official Internet sites:

Facebook pages:

Video Channels:

Specialized Martial Arts Sites and Internet Forums which are mentioning Miko Kung Fu (also Мико Кунг Фу in cyrillic) and Milenko Kozlica:


I am sure you can find more.

Kind regards, Teodor Totev

  • Teodor: Have you ever read WP:RS? Almost everything I see on that list wouldn't come close to passing the RS standard, especially all the FB pages and user conntributor sites. Additionally, you might want to read WP:PRIMARY. When so much of the coverage comes from a primary site, such as www.miko-kungfu.at, it can be very problematic. One thing you might consider is heading here: WP:WikiProject Martial arts to get input from experienced editors who are involved in editing martial arts articles. There is also a crtieria for martial arts articles at WP:MANOTE. Niteshift36 (talk) 20:54, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
  • I concur with Niteshift's comments above. (Thanks for chiming in.) The thing we need is "third-party reliable sources". What that usually means is coverage in established newspapers, magazines, or books. Internet forums, blogs, and YouTube videos usually don't qualify. The martial arts wikiproject is a good place to get feedback on which sources are acceptable, as is WP:RSN. Hope this helps! Mark Arsten (talk) 21:05, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Doubt regarding Bollywood movies

I am shocked to see that Misplaced Pages provides figures pertaining to bollywood box office business from www.boxofficeindia.com which is not genuine. There are other releant sources like bollywoodhungama.com, addatoday.com, koimoi.com which provide accurate figures of box office. I request you to remove restriction from movie "Ek Tha Tiger" so that I can make changes to its collection which is about INR.198cr nut Misplaced Pages mentions it as INR 186 cr (Source boxofficeindia.com which is not accurate at all). Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afzal57hhh (talk • contribs) 15:31, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi, my advice is to discuss the issue on Talk:Ek Tha Tiger, and try to form a consensus among interested editors. Thanks! Mark Arsten (talk) 15:34, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Tai Urban: Updates

You deleted the page "Tai Urban." I am still in the progress of updating it. You stated that he did not have any major martial arts achievements. However, I wrote that he won gold and bronze medals at Junior Olympics. Juniors Olympics is for for basically the Olympics, but for children under a specific age in certain sports. Also, he has competed in several IBJJF competitions and has won gold. Those are not local nor minor competitions, but ranked. I am still in process of collecting info on that.

Tai Urban is also a celebrity photographer and has articles with his name. I am constantly learning new things about Misplaced Pages, so I have to update it with the correct articles. I just found these articles on the Internet.

I wrote that he is an actor. I can be more specific with links to his Disney XD show, Ghostwhisper, NBC, ABC, and films that he has done instead of generalizing. I also have photos/links of him with various celebrities at celebrity events.

Also, I found out that I need to do that title portion for review, so I feel that if I work with the editors in getting this page up to the correct standards and with the proper references, then it meet your requirements.

Thanks! -J. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jennajjen (talk • contribs) 17:47, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi, the issue here is that he would have to meet the WP:MANOTE or WP:NACTOR guidelines. The users who commented at the deletion discussion felt that he did not. To demonstrate that he does, you will likely have to find significant media coverage of him... newspaper and magazine articles would be best. See WP:GNG & WP:RS for more details. Good luck, Mark Arsten (talk) 17:54, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Precious (in style)

talking
Thank you for speaking to editors as to people, with attention, respect and humour, even on difficult topics and in disputes!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:27, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

repeated in br'erly thanksgiving style, thank you that it still applies, awesome Wikipedian of 22 April 2012 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:10, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! I'll endeavor to deserve it. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:29, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

DRV notice

Hi Mark, Not seeing a previous notice, but thought you should be aware of one of your closes at DRV. Sorry if this is a repeat. Hobit (talk) 18:12, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

No, I hadn't seen that, thanks for the note... odd situation. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:29, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

2ND NOTICE: Kochmit

Dear Mark: The talk page for Kochmit has the second nomination for AfD directing to the first discussion instead of the second, which should link to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/B.C. Kochmit (2nd nomination). Can you please fix this? Thanks!--Jax 0677 (talk) 19:55, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

It's done now. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:00, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Re: Afd

Thanks Mark, perfectly acceptable as far as I am concerned. Thanks for kicking-off the new AFD -I might make a couple of comments there. Cheers, Stalwart111 22:12, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Deletion

Hi, the easiest job is deletion. the article is not van or attack, has a reliable sources and good references. this is not my good place to spend good time. Please delete my account too. seeah asten 08:28, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello, which article are you referring to? I'd be glad to discuss it if you have concerns about my deletion. Also, I can't delete your account. The closest thing we have to account deletion is WP:RTV. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 15:16, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Nicolle Galyon

I dispute the deletion of this article. Surely WP:HOTTIE trumps WP:GNG, right? Ah well, I tried.--v/r - TP 22:13, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, someone should update WP:BEFORE to include google image search :) Well, you did try, and I was a little surprised at how that debate turned out. Afd can be unpredictable at times. In any case, we can always revisit at a later date--since her career's not over yet, there's a decent chance that the page could be restored eventually. Mark Arsten (talk) 22:18, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Joseph Grimaldi FAC

Hi Mark, just a quick note to let you know of Grimaldi's FAC which I have just listed. I would be most grateful for any comments or criticisms you may have to offer. Hope all is well! -- Cassianto 13:44, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. No guarantees, but I'll see if I can make it over there. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 13:47, 5 December 2012 (UTC)


Text moved from Category:Change in blog policy

Mark, you deleted page M.G. Edwards based on the suggestions of several anonymous, non-notable moderators. Misplaced Pages's criteria for whether a public figure is "notable" are random and imprecise. Its reliance on traditional media sources is arcane, and the site's use of second- and third-hand sources and disregard for first-hand information is flawed and dated. Misplaced Pages has demonstrated a lack of understanding how information is shared online in the 21st Century.

M.G. Edwards' blog "World Adventurers" is growing exponentially, and some of its posts now outrank Misplaced Pages's entries in search results. Misplaced Pages stands to lose more from its decision to delete M.G. Edwards' bio page than the author did from the bio page you deleted. World Adventurers' articles have linked to thousands of Misplaced Pages articles and generated many referrals for Misplaced Pages. We just changed our policy to emphasize local sources over Misplaced Pages's. The blog will now take readers closer to the source and support local information providers rather than relying on second- or third-hand information from Misplaced Pages.

M.G. Edwards also put a call out to readers to spend their Misplaced Pages donations to support independent authors ignored by Misplaced Pages.

http://worldadventurers.wordpress.com/2012/11/19/use-your-wikipedia-donation-to-support-indie-authors/ http://www.scribd.com/doc/115016431/Use-Your-Misplaced Pages-Donation-to-Support-Indie-Authors

Until Misplaced Pages changes its policies, World Adventurers' remains in effect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edworlds (talk • contribs)

Hi, thanks for your comments. I'm sorry you feel this way about Misplaced Pages. As an admin, though, I can only enforce the established criteria that we've adopted. I do think that donating to indie authors is a worthy cause though, so I admire your efforts in that direction. Regards, Mark Arsten (talk) 20:12, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
For always being so helpful, I award you this! Keep it up and you might see a few more coming your way. Statυs (talk) 01:14, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, my pleasure. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:15, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank You

I appreciate your protection of Triad (underground society). There was some information in previous edits and would like to know if you would like to assist in recovering the data. More experienced users sometimes have tools that make it easier, but I don't know if that is the case. Regardless, thank you for that move, I was in the process of submitting it for protection this very moment. Twillisjr (talk) 15:22, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome, glad to help. I'm a bit confused though. What do you mean about recovering data with tools? I'm not sure what you're asking. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:56, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

aligator, take it home

Astengreen (talk) 20:02, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, I will :) Mark Arsten (talk) 15:19, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

FAC Review help

Hello, I recently nominated an article, "The Sixth Extinction II: Amor Fati" for FAC, and its been opposed (rightfully so) by editors who insist it needs a more thorough copy-edit. I was directed towards your name, although I'm sure you are rather busy. If you have any time/know anyone who would be willing to help, that would be greatly appreciated! Thank you for reading this.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 22:33, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I know I've seen you around, but I don't think we've interacted before. Sorry to see that it didn't make it at FAC, but a lot of articles flunk on their first try and pass later. I suppose I can help with a copyedit, but I can't promise that it will be done quickly--I'm willing to take a shot at it though. It's usually best to get a few eyes on something like this, so you might want to ask for help from others to make sure that things are solved adequately. Others that I would recommend pinging for assistance for grammar prose issues are User:Rothorpe & User:Accedie, and for more of a peer review with emphasis on prose compliance User:Sarastro1 and User:Noleander. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:19, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you! Take your time, I really appreciate you doing this. I will continue to trudge ahead, and thank you for the recommendations!--Gen. Quon (Talk) 17:35, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Game Zero magazine

Hi, as you are listed as the person deleting this page, I'm coming to you first as I somehow missed the discussion for deletion due to being a bit involved with RL the last few months. Anyways, I take exception to the statement that deletion is warranted because " Google Books only yields passing mentions, and Google News archives search yields no results other than the article's Misplaced Pages page."

This argument is irrelevant in this case. The website was from 1994-1998 (magazine ran from 1992-1998, how this translates to "short time" baffles me). All other citable websites from that period are long gone and if you had taken a moment to read the talk page you would have seen this situation explained in detail. The publication itself had a circulation of 150,000 in the U.S. prior to ending. The website was regularly listed in top-10 lists for gaming websites in the early 90's. There is no "Google News" entries because the site pre-dates Google News inclusion. It predates Google Books as well. I would also like to note that the site is historical significant from a video-gaming news perspective as it's one of the only remaining sites where period news is still available.

I need to note, this publication was a professional publication, with a significant following online, in print and as the official news channel for X-Band. It was significant during it's publication window in the early Internet. It kills me to see this windows of Internet history being eradicated and I just wonder at how much other information has been lost because of this very same conundrum.

I know this is a bit of an anomaly but I would like to request the page be restored. Please, read the page again, and the talk page that went with it. Everything was explained clearly. BcRIPster (talk) 19:57, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello, to restore the page, we would need to have evidence that there is "significant coverage in reliable sources". The sources don't need to be online, but we would need verifiable independent sources (WP:V) to write about the group (blogs and forums don't count). If you can provide good sources, let me know, and we can work from there. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 21:15, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Wired referred to an FAQ Game Zero published on the game Wipeout in issue 4.04 (archived on the site) but botched the URL: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.04/streetcred.html?pg=3
In Japan, All-in-One Internet Magazine used to publish an printed Internet Yellow Pages. They have since put up an on-line archive of all their old issues. The link below is from an issue that came out July, 1995.
The Internet Yellow Pages, Vol.6:Game, featured Game Zero #4 directly after Sega, Sony then Nintendo. http://i.impressrd.jp/files/images/bn/pdf/im199507-161-yellow.pdf You can translate the PDF here: http://translate.google.com/#ja/en/
I-Way magazine featured Game Zero in their 500 top links report in their Spring 1996 issue; (available on newsstands February 26, 1996). For the top 20 Gaming related sites, Game Zero was ranked #9 over New Type and Nintendo (if you need a scan of the magazine I can send one). This was a huge, big deal. This magazine was considered authoritative at the time.
Game Zero used to be indexed on GameRankings but in 2006 they demoted the listing and then in 2007 they purged sites that didn't have current reviews and so one more relevant source was lost.
Zoonami changed the name of their game because it collided with the name of the magazine: http://www.ign.com/articles/2004/04/26/game-zero-update
The talk page documented that there are serious issues with collecting references here because since the magazine was predominantly Web based from 1994-1996, anything referencing the site from 1994-1996 is way long gone and not captured in the Internet Archive since it didn't start full steam until 1997.
What else can I provide you? I can send you photos of magazine covers if you need.BcRIPster (talk) 00:49, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Well, I'm a bit skeptical about whether these constitute "significant" coverage, but I'll userfy the deleted article so you can add citations/evidence of notability. It's at User:BcRIPster/Game Zero magazine now. When you've done that, you can go to WP:DRV to apply to have the draft reinstated. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:28, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, can you restore the talk page content as well? I'll see what else I can find, but this is known issue for significant web content from that era. I regret not doing a better job capturing information at the time myself as I never imagined someone would question the significance of the publication given how high it's visibility was at the time.BcRIPster (talk) 20:09, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Ok, done. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:38, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, again.BcRIPster (talk) 21:00, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
Gimme da M, who is it? Mark Arsten! :) This represents how thankful I am for all your help. — ΛΧΣ 20:49, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for the barnstar. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:50, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

question

Any issue with me setting a redirect of Lili Francks to her husband Don Francks? Schmidt, 22:29, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

No issue at all, go ahead. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:04, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. Schmidt, 02:49, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Delta Sigma Iota

Can I ask why you deleted the Delta Sigma Iota fraternity page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Priyankpatel91 (talk • contribs)

Yes, you can. The reasons for deletion are listed on Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Delta Sigma Iota. To have an article, fraternities have to meet WP:GNG and WP:CLUB; at the discussion there was a consensus that it did not. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:43, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Vishal Sharma

Hi Mark, please you have deleted the page "Vishal Sharma". People who commented on it and advised deletion are completely unaware of Indian politics and took unqualified stances regarding the person in question. It takes a lot of effort on our part to do research and create a quality page with the proper links that meets the strict conditions of wikipedia, and it is very easy for people sitting on the other side of this planet to recommend deletion. Therefore, I request you to please undelete the page "Vishal Sharma". Thanks so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shweta1977 (talk • contribs) 18:38, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello, to have an article on Misplaced Pages, individuals have to meet the Misplaced Pages:Notability (people) guidelines. Can you provide evidence of significant coverage of him in newspapers, magazines or books (WP:GNG)? If so, it may be possible to undelete the article. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 18:52, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Hello from the other side of the planet! I am the person who nominated the article for deletion, and, no, I am not completely unaware of Indian politics, because, amongst other things, I had to learn a little bit about Indian politics in order to do this. If Vishal Sharma is genuinely notable by Misplaced Pages's standards, a similar amount of effort on your part would enable you to create a similarly well-referenced article. (You get bonus points if you can include a reliable source about slapping a teacher in the face.) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:50, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Genius Inside

Hello,

Our page Genius Inside has recently been deleted by you on 30 November 2012.

We would like to discuss with you regarding this deletion, as our company is still active and well known on the market, and we believe is important to the market and the customer for informational purposes.

We unfortunately are not wikipedia experts, our core business is project management softwares. Therefore we might not have perfectly followed the wikipedia rules and regulations, and we apologize for it.

For example, we do not follow links all the time and might have omitted to delete some old links that are obsolete. I have read the "tips" and rules and realize we have a lack of reference, one of the reasons I suppose of our deletion.

I would like to provide some proofs that we are still very active on the market, by providing you a large quantity of press releases, industry specific reports and industry specific influential blogs or websites attesting of our importance on this market.

We would agree of course to make other changes you consider important and that could better serve the informational purpose of Misplaced Pages.

Thank you for examining our request.

Best regards


Inclusion in Gartner report 2011 http://www.pmsolutionsaustralia.com.au/docs/gartner_ppm_market_scope_june_2011.pdf

Gartner 2012 report http://www.gartner.com/technology/reprints.do?id=1-1B600QZ&ct=120629&st=sb

20.06.12 http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/press-release/genius-project-from-genius-inside-delivers-quotswiss-army-knifequot-results-to-project-teams-of-a-leading-international-group-for-raw-materials-287397.php

20.06.12 http://computerprnews.com/computer_articles/2012/06/genius-project-from-genius-inside-delivers-quotswiss-army-knifequot-results-to-project-teams-of-a-leading-international-group-for-raw-materials-287397.htm

05.08.12 http://www.projectsmart.co.uk/top-10-considerations-when-integrating-social-media-in-project-management.html

10.07.12 http://www.gantthead.com/blog/The-Money-Files/5627/

10.09.12 http://pmworldjournal.net/?article=best-practices-in-managing-geographically-dispersed-project-teams

31.01.11 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Genius-Inside-Announces-iw-3787325089.html

http://www.projectmanagement.com/blog/The-Money-Files/2306/

http://investor.wedbush.com/wedbush/news/releasedby?ReleasedBy=Genius+Inside

06.09.12 http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/06/idUS40494+06-Sep-2012+MW20120906

08.02.12 http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/08/idUS45341+08-Feb-2012+MW20120208

13.10.12 http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/10/13/idUS233621+13-Oct-2008+PRN20081013

21.09.11 http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/21/idUS38324+21-Sep-2011+MW20110921

01.04.09 http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/04/01/idUS131768+01-Apr-2009+PRN20090401

06.09.12 http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/genius-inside-celebrates-15-years-successful-growth-topping-first-half-2012-with-40-1697989.htm

02.08.12 http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Prominent-Cancun-Resort-Takes-Leading-Role-in-Earth-Hour-Initiative-1616359.htm

31.01.11 http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Genius-Inside-Announces-On-Premise-PPM-Solution-Security-Conscious-Organizations-1387627.htm

16.11.11 http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Medical-Imaging-Software-Company-Selects-Genius-Inside-Manage-International-1587538.htm

21.09.11 http://softwareindustrynews.pipeno.com/article/genius-inside-gives-loxam-greater-insight-and-tighter-management-over-it-projects-spread-across-europe-

http://www.pm4girls.elizabeth-harrin.com/?s=genius+inside

14.09.12 http://www.pm4girls.elizabeth-harrin.com/2012/09/process-driven-project-management-minimizing-the-inherent-risks-within-projects/

13.09.10 http://www.pm4girls.elizabeth-harrin.com/2010/09/genius-project-6-6-whats-new/

06.01.10 http://www.pm4girls.elizabeth-harrin.com/2010/01/interview-with-christophe-borlat/

03.12.09 http://www.pm4girls.elizabeth-harrin.com/2009/12/what%E2%80%99s-new-genius/

http://www.pmhut.com/?s=genius+inside&x=0&y=0

26.10.12 http://www.pmhut.com/top-10-tips-for-effective-resource-management

27.09.12 http://www.pmhut.com/social-project-portfolio-management-enhancing-your-collaboration-platform-for-the-evolving-project-workforce

26.09.12 http://www.pmhut.com/top-10-considerations-when-integrating-social-media-in-your-project-management-processes

25.09.12 http://www.pmhut.com/project-portfolio-management-software-deployment-guide

04.10.11 http://www.pmhut.com/expecting-the-unexpected

Rbernard84--Rbernard84 (talk) 15:20, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello, it may be possible to have the article undeleted if you can provide sufficient evidence that the company is notable. To be notable (for Misplaced Pages purposes) companies have to have received coverage that meets the WP:CORPDEPTH guidelines. Blogs and press releases usually aren't enough to establish notability. Can you point to a few examples of articles that have been written about the company by media outlets that fit our WP:RS guideline? Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 18:26, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello Mark, would inclusion in a Gartner report be sufficient? Mark Arsten http://www.gartner.com/technology/reprints.do?id=1-1B600QZ&ct=120629&st=sb Genius Inside is indeed a major player in the market, and because of this removal, users cannot find Genius Inside http://en.wikipedia.org/Comparison_of_project-management_software which limits users of making the best choice for their organization. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vklimko (talk • contribs) 19:52, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Good question... to be honest, I'm not sure if Gartner qualifies as WP:RS. You could ask about this at WP:RSN (the page that evaluates reliability of sources). Usually we require more than one reliable source, but that could be a good start. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:37, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi Mark, every industry has it's own credible sources. In the software space Gartner is the god and this report is the bible for the PPM software buyers. If this is not a credible source than I don't know what is. Please consider Gartner link and this link http://www.information-management.com/infodirect/2011_228/PPM-BI-dashboards-analytics-Genius-Bunge-10021841-1.html as a credible source and please undelete the page. Vklimko 20:49, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Well, I'm a bit skeptical about whether this will meet WP:CORPDEPTH, but I'll userfy the deleted article so you can add more citations/proof of notability. It's at User:Vklimko/Genius Inside now. When you've done that, you can go to WP:DRV to apply to have the draft reinstated. Let me know if you have any questions. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:59, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Updates are done and submitted Vklimko 16:37, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

The article still appears to be mostly sourced to press releases and blogs. These should really be used lightly, if at all. Also, I think WP:DRV is a better venue than WP:AFC, which usually isn't used after deletion. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:48, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

MMA Event Notability

You are invited to join the discussion at WT:MMA#MMA_Event_Notability. Kevlar (talk) 18:55, 13 December 2012 (UTC)Template:Z48

Please clarify

Mark, could you please clarify your decision to close the Eunice Penix AfD to User:Jax 0677? He still seems to think that your closure with a redirect somehow adjudicated Penix as notable. He keeps using the fact that the closing wording didn't say "deleted" as evidence that she wasn't held to be non-notable. He used that line of thought in the DRV and is still trying it. I'd really appreciate it. Niteshift36 (talk) 15:21, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, he's mistaken then. I think the consensus was definitely "non-notable". I'll try to get in touch with him soon. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:40, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

John Adair

May I please nominate John Adair for Today's Featured Article on January 9th? I want your opinion please.--Lucky102 (talk) 17:15, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I won't nominate it now, due to Richard Nixon.--Lucky102 (talk) 17:17, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Ok. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:48, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Wondering how this ended up on your talk page rather than mine. Not that I mind Adair, or any other FA I've shepherded, appearing on the main page. I'm just glad someone noticed. Did you have a competing TFA candidate for that date? Acdixon 21:16, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

I didn't, no. Not sure why Lucky asked me either. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:06, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

List of defensive gun use incidents

You closed an AFD on this article some months back (no consensus). An anon IP has attempted to renominate, but did not fully complete the process. As the previous AFD was only 4 months ago, and the AFD was not fully nominated, I was going to delete the incorrectly done subst. However as I am the primary editor of the page, I didn't want to violate the "dont remove" policy, even though the process was not correctly started. Could you please take whatever action you feel is appropriate to resolve the issue? Gaijin42 (talk) 23:36, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

thanks for resolving the impasse. Gaijin42 (talk) 23:50, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
No prob. Usually when I see an IP try to nominate something I complete it for them. In any case, renomination 4 months after a NC close is not unheard of. Actually, the last time I completed a nomination for someone I saw it in the queue a week later and almost deleted it, but then figured I shouldn't since I technically nominated it. Then there was a flurry of late !votes and an admin came along and closed the article as keep... so this might work in your favor :) Mark Arsten (talk) 00:06, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Merge discussion for FTM cross-dressing

An article that you have been involved in editing, FTM cross-dressing, has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:24, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

The curious case of women's empowerment

Thank you Mark, for your help on Vidya Balan's article. Much appreciated. Cheers. :) --smarojit 07:02, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome, glad to help. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:28, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Main page appearance: Prosperity theology

This is a note to let the main editors of Prosperity theology know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on January 4, 2013. You can view the TFA blurb at Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/January 4, 2013. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director Raul654 (talk · contribs) or his delegates Dabomb87 (talk · contribs), Gimmetoo (talk · contribs), and Bencherlite (talk · contribs), or start a discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:Today's featured article/requests. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you can change it—following the instructions at Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. The blurb as it stands now is below:

Prosperity theology is a Christian religious doctrine that financial blessing is the will of God, and that faith, positive speech, and donations to Christian ministries will increase one's material wealth. Based on non-traditional interpretations of the Bible, often with emphasis on the Book of Malachi, the doctrine views the Bible as a contract between God and humans: if humans have faith in God, he will deliver his promises of security and prosperity. The doctrine emphasizes the importance of personal empowerment, proposing that it is God's will for his people to be happy. It came to prominence in the United States during the Healing Revivals of the 1950s and later figured prominently in the Word of Faith movement and 1980s televangelism. In the 1990s and 2000s, it was adopted by influential leaders in the Charismatic Movement and promoted by Christian missionaries throughout the world. Churches in which the prosperity gospel is taught are often non-denominational and usually directed by a sole pastor or leader, although some have developed multi-church networks. Prosperity theology has been criticized by leaders in the Pentecostal and Charismatic movements, as well as other Christian denominations, who maintain that it is irresponsible and theologically unsound. (Full article...)

UcuchaBot (talk) 23:01, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Oooh, this will be a vandal magnet... going to be a tough day, I bet. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:25, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Sadler

Hello,

to avoid any conflicts, like recently, are you in agreement to publish the text in William S. Sadler in public domain to translate it in German? Regards.--Tomcat (7) 14:50, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I am in total agreement. Let me know if you have any more questions. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:25, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. "Of English and Irish descent, he was raised in Wabash, Indiana." I think his descent had no influnce to the fact where he was raised. Shouldn't subordinate clauses and main clauses always be logical to each other? Or is it different in American English? Regards.--Tomcat (7) 12:10, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
  • It's not always necessary, and in context it looks acceptable (although perhaps better with the parents); if you can't translate it very well, remove it... it isn't too pertinent. Mark, you can't legally release all the text to the PD, only your contributions (don't think anyone here would fight it, but you never know). Tomcat, why must it be PD? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:03, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Ehh, sorry about my mistake as to the licensing, I was thinking he was asking about the German translation being released into PD... then again, I'm no license expert. As to the two clauses... you may have a point there, I didn't think too much about that at the time (with that I would usually just wait for someone to point it out). No one did, so it probably isn't a big deal. Does "Sadler was born June 24, 1875, in Spencer, Indiana, and was raised in Wabash, Indiana. Of English and Irish descent, his parents were Samuel Cavins Sadler and Sarah Isabelle Wilson." look better? I guess I could change it. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:27, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Even that wouldn't technically be allowed because of the Share-Alike clause. They can't release it any freer than it is. I guess that rewording could work, but I'm not particularly thrilled with it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:49, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

fyi

MathewTownsend (talk) 15:52, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, difficult situation, not sure what to say. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:25, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Request for Comment re Death Penalty lawyer Bio AfD

Please comment re application of WP:SIGCOV to career defending people on death row: >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2012_December_17#Stephen_Aarons <<<<

Tricky situation, I probably won't comment. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:31, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!


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Thanks, merry Christmas to you too. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:31, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Article for deletion: David Codikow

Hi Mark,

An article I created - David Codikow - has been deleted, following an AfD discussion last month. I would like to enquire about two aspects of this deletion. Firstly, can I get the full text of the deleted article? Secondly, I would be happy to fill in the appropriate reliable and independent sources if there was an aspect of the article lacking in this regard - is there somewhere I can get some feedback as to which parts of the article could be strengthened?

Many thanks!

Mrjones23 (talk) 11:09, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I've moved the article to User:Mrjones23/David Codikow for you to improve. Misplaced Pages:Editor assistance/Requests is a good place to ask for help about building a draft. When you've finished, you can apply to have the draft reinstated to mainspace via WP:DRV. Let me know if you have any more questions, Mark Arsten (talk) 17:31, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your help Mark! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrjones23 (talk • contribs) 18:54, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
Just because you're the best admin ever.  — Statυs (talk, contribs) 03:01, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
lol, that's quite a compliment thanks. Not sure if it's true or not, but I'll accept that. Glad we got those dashes worked out earlier. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:06, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Your opinion is what we call a Conflict of interest . No problem! Me too!  — Statυs (talk, contribs) 04:18, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Homework

Hey. I nominated Homework (Daft Punk album) for FAC. When you have time, please check the article and give it a copyedit. If you have time to give me a full review, I will be amazingly glad. Thanks Mark :) — ΛΧΣ 03:37, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, looks pretty interesting, but I might have limited availability in the near future... we'll see. Hope it goes well in any case. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:59, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Holiday cheer

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Merry Christmas!

"Good tidings we bring, for you and your kin"

Hey Mark, hope this finds you well. Me and Mrs Crisco just want to wish you a merry Christmas (and a cup of good cheer).

BTW, if you get back in a writing mood, I just read a little bit about Bayard Rustin. Fascinating... openly gay, pacifist, and a pretty key civil rights movement member. Article needs some heavy lifting though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:41, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Mark, I just wanted to take the time to thank you for everything you do here and to wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. And you're permitted to take 12 hours off from patrolling AfDs, not a second more! Go Phightins! 03:00, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

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Happy holidays!

Happy Holidays!
From the frozen wasteland of Nebraska, USA! MONGO 12:15, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

help me edit Central Park Carousel

I really want help improving the article Central Park Carousel because I dont want it deleted so please help me edit it please. Please do leave a message on my talk page. Starship9000 —Preceding undated comment added 22:53, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Deletion review for Base 30

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Base 30. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Robo37 (talk) 13:37, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Re:Talk:Elias Abraham Rosenberg

Hello, Mark Arsten. You have new messages at Talk:Elias Abraham Rosenberg.
Message added 16:35, 27 December 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

I thought I'd bring this to your attention, as you are the main contributor to this article.

הסרפד (Hasirpad) 16:35, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

 Done

Another user has implemented the changes I suggested. הסרפד (Hasirpad) 17:01, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Oops. I didn't realize that you (pl.) are one and the same. הסרפד (Hasirpad) 23:13, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
LOL, sorry, I didn't mean to trick you :) Mark Arsten (talk) 23:15, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Hey Mark

I was wondering if I could talk you into undoing the blocks to Nikki and Andy. I've seen both of them around for a long time, and I think they are both pretty reasonable people - and now with some discussion on the article talk page going .. I think some of the back and forth can be stopped without the blocks staying in place. If "please" makes a difference ... "Please" ... :) — Ched :  ?  18:41, 31 December 2012 (UTC)