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Basically you do not show that the purpose of having money was purely for material ends and not the furtherence of the religion. As it happens Hubbard led a frugal life style, his home in England Saint Hill Manor was taken over for Church purposes early on and left to the Church in his will. He made plenty of money from his writing before and after Scientology such as his Mission Earth series which were New York Times best sellers. You will also find that most active Scientologists currently heavily donate to the Church for new buildings and outreach work as Patrons of the International Association of Scientologists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drg55 (talk • contribs) 04:59, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

I also took out the reference about starting a religion because:

'What you really ought to do is create a religion because it will be tax-free,' and at that point everyone in the room started chiming in with ideas for this new religion. So the idea was a Gestalt that Ron caught on to and assimilated the details. He then wrote it up as 'Dianetics: A New Science of the Mind' and sold it to John W. Campbell, Jr., who published it in Astounding Science Fiction in 1950.

This is a load of rubbish as Dianetics was not promoted as a religion, it had a board including an Navy Admiral. Hubbard had trouble with the Board because it wanted him to suppress his research into past lives. http://www.xenu.net/archive/books/apobs/bs3-2.htm

Scientology was established as a Church in 1954. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drg55 (talk • contribs) 06:53, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

There was no consensus for the non-neutral edits that you made so I reverted them. Janet Reitman addresses the connection between Dianetics and Scientology in her book, so I added a bridge sentence to address that concern. I can expand it if you'd like. I have not seen any reliable sources that indicate Hubbard living anything close to a "frugal lifestyle". In fact, several sources I've seen indicate that he had a private ship staffed by "Sea Org" members before he moved into hiding on his private ranch. More to the point, this article is about the business practices of Scientology, it is not an essay for a comparative religions class. If you would like to create Scientology compared to other religions, you are free to do so. Andrew 08:14, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Link to 'Aurthur's Bookstore' ?

While traveling last week I was in the San Jose airport and stopped in 'Aurthur's Bookstore' and was surprised to see four L. Ron Hubbard title's with large red "NEW RELEASE" signs. The books were given prominent display space. Is this business owned by the Church of Scientology, or do they give these books away at such a price as to entice bookstores to push them and make a higher than average profit? I've been told that every sale of an L. Ron Hubbard title counts a a new member joining the 'Church'. Unsure if this is factual or not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.244.183.6 (talk) 03:55, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Comparison to Christianity

I just removed the section "Comparison to Christianity". It had not sources other than the Bible, which has nothing to say about Scientology. The section was hard to understand. If it is to be restored, it needs specific reliable sources that make the comparison and copyediting.Andrew (talk) 17:44, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

I just performed an overhaul of the article and incorporated the reference to Christianity into a section that is more germane to the topic. Andrew (talk) 19:30, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

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