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... and a happy new year to you! Amalthea 13:02, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Little Britches and Cattle Annie articles.
Hi Amalthea. I saw that you had deleted the aforementioned articles because they were created by a sock puppet entity, not on the merit of the articles alone. Just wondering if there's any way they could be salvaged and reinstated instead of someone else having to recreate them from scratch. TheGoodGrinch, or whoever they really were, IMHO created a couple of nice little articles on historical figures previously not covered. My interest in this is primarily due to my membership in WikiProject Missouri, since Little Britches was a native of the state. Since they've been deleted by you are the articles gone forever off into cyber heaven (lol) or are they still maybe retrieveable? I'd be willing to rewrite/revise them under my name if needed, and I assure you I'm not a sock puppet for anyone, as my long activity log can attest. Any advice appreciated! Sector001 (talk) 19:38, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
- Well, the situation is a bit more complicated than that. TheGoodGrinch is a sock of Billy Hathorn, an editor who caused huge copyright problems here. His cleanup page has still 6857 articles left to check, the most of all WP:CCI cases open at the moment, and while other editors made similar mistakes, Billy Hathorn ignored attempts to discuss the problem or denied that there is any problem and continues editing to this day, anonymously or with sock accounts. We can't block him since he has access to an enormous amount of IP ranges, so all we can do is to try and contain the problem.
I regularly check his articles before deleting them, to see if he has changed his approach to editing. Although maintainance editors like me are often in danger of losing sight of the big picture when in the trenches, I do know what we're doing here and don't simply delete as a matter of principle. If he'd learn to paraphrase properly there would not be a problem, but alas, I regularly find phrases copied word for word or inappropriately paraphrased, so I do what I think I have to. For example, and this is from the first citation in the first article I just checked, The Sontag Brothers vs. source:- "the railroad track where they wanted to stop the train" vs. "the railroad track where they intended to stop the train"
- "they would come from hiding and order the engineer to halt the train" vs. "they would appear and order the engineer to stop the train"
- "They used dynamite to blow up the express car and to gather the loot on board. Then they grabbed the horses and made a quick getaway" vs. "Using dynamite they would blow up the express car and gather up the money, then find the horses and make their escape."
- A great example of WP:Close paraphrasing, an infringement of the original author's copyright. He hasn't learned anything.
- Now, if you want to rewrite those articles I'd of course welcome it! I guess I can restore and blank those articles and move them to your or my userspace for a while, or mail the content to you if you set up an e-mail address in your preferences. That is, if you're still interested?
Amalthea 20:43, 4 January 2013 (UTC)- I think I'll pass and just leave it to someone else some other time. Not knowing the history of the Billy guy or his sock puppetry I took his articles at face value. If they were plagarized extensively from other sources word for word or even too closely paraphrased, then it's hardly worth trying to salvage anything except his reference sources, and even those might be a bit dubious. I never meant to infer that you didn't know what you're doing, I was simply inquiring about saving/restoring the articles because one has a Missouri connection. Sorry if I stepped into some ongoing conflict by accident. Remember, always assume good faith! Thanks, and have a great Wiki kinda day. Sector001 (talk) 21:53, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, not at all! Sorry if I came over that way, I was merely trying to be clear what's going on -- I kinda expected that someone would approach me about them when I deleted them.
And I have no reason to believe the sources are suspect (although the one I linked above might indeed be of questionable reliability), so if you ever change you mind, please feel free to ping me again!
Cheers, Amalthea 21:59, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, not at all! Sorry if I came over that way, I was merely trying to be clear what's going on -- I kinda expected that someone would approach me about them when I deleted them.
- I think I'll pass and just leave it to someone else some other time. Not knowing the history of the Billy guy or his sock puppetry I took his articles at face value. If they were plagarized extensively from other sources word for word or even too closely paraphrased, then it's hardly worth trying to salvage anything except his reference sources, and even those might be a bit dubious. I never meant to infer that you didn't know what you're doing, I was simply inquiring about saving/restoring the articles because one has a Missouri connection. Sorry if I stepped into some ongoing conflict by accident. Remember, always assume good faith! Thanks, and have a great Wiki kinda day. Sector001 (talk) 21:53, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
CCI update
 | Misplaced Pages:Contributor copyright investigations/20120828 is now complete. Thank you for your assistance in the evaluation of this CCI. |
MER-C 02:43, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
SPI bot down
Hey, I'm sure you know, seeing as you manually updated the page, but just so you know, the bot that updates the SPI table has gone down. (X! · talk) · @860 · 19:38, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
- Right, not sure what's going on. Can't reach it from the outside anymore either and was kinda hoping it might recover on its on since I can only do something about it tomorrow. I'll have it run from home till then.
Cheers, Amalthea 20:00, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Scotland
Hi. You recently protected the page Scotland for semi-protection, but you removed its move-protection. Could you restore its indefinite move-(sysop)-protection. I think it was removed by mistake and there is no reason to non-admins to move it. Thanks in advice. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 03:16, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
- I believe Courcelles removed the move protection last March? If I'm reading the log right at least. Amalthea 16:13, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- OK, thank you. I will contact him. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 02:45, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
SPI case FYI
Hi Amalthea, you may want to see this case for which I believe you may already have the evidence. Cheers,
— Berean Hunter (talk) 23:55, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
- I had it watchlisted, but thanks for the ping, handled! Amalthea 13:24, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/NoCal100
Hi Amalthea. This is simply a friendly reminder that you intend to finish up your checks at this SPI. If you need somebody else to take over, please let one of us know. Thanks! AGK 10:54, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
- Closed now, sorry for the unintended delay. Amalthea 13:24, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
Christi Craddick
When you have a moment, could you userfy Christi Craddick for me? I've only had a brief glance of it once, but it seemed to be a workable article on a notable subject. I could be wrong of course, but there's no way for me to tell from this angle. I just became aware of the deletion due to its link being removed from a page I watch. Thanks. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 18:42, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hi,
ah, the situation here is the same as a few sections up, at #Little Britches and Cattle Annie articles. Long story short, I have to assume that the article contains copyright violations. I see two options to make the content available to you:- I'll restore and blank it, and you check it within a reasonable timeframe for copyright problems and clean/rewrite it (and then let me know so that I can revdel the old revision).
- I email you the content, and if you restore any clean material from that revision you'll let me know so that I can restore (and again revdel) the old revision, for proper attribution.
- Amalthea 19:31, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- Ah, ok. Now that I know the back story please hold on a bit and let me consider. I hadn't realized there was a problem with that user, as I've seen his name in histories for many locally-related WP articles. It may make the most sense for me to start from scratch at this point. Thanks for the info. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 20:23, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, if you reconsider please let me know, and if it helps here are the sources that were linked in the article:
- Ah, ok. Now that I know the back story please hold on a bit and let me consider. I hadn't realized there was a problem with that user, as I've seen his name in histories for many locally-related WP articles. It may make the most sense for me to start from scratch at this point. Thanks for the info. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 20:23, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- Cheers, Amalthea 20:34, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
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| Thanks for all the copyright diff trimming you're doing. Noticed it on Aiman abmajid first, and that's made that CCI infinitely easier to deal with, far too many tiny diffs in that one; an impossible project suddenly looks almost done. Wizardman 22:38, 17 January 2013 (UTC) |