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You may not have understood points I tried to make

In this comment I think you are addressing a counter-argument to a point no one attempted to make, and that you appear to not to have noticed the point I already made. You wrote: "The Coast Guard Medal is not at the level of medals that confers notability."

Wouldn`t it be more correct to say: "The Coast Guard Medal is not at the level of medals that confers sufficient notability, all by itself, for an awardee to merit an individual article"?

It has long been accepted here that being the recipient of a nation's highest award is sufficient to make the awardee "notable" -- all by itself. When one reviews the articles on recipients of the highest award, their awards are often their sole claim to notability. That is true for civilian medals like the George Cross, as well.

I see nothing in the record to suggest there has ever been any consensus that lesser medals confer zero notability. Are you aware of any discussions that explicitly concluded lesser medals conferred zero notability?

John Kerry won Bronze Stars -- didn't they confer enough notability that they are worth noting in an article about him, even though they confer less notability than a Silver Star, which, in turn, confers less notability than a Medal of Honor?

Some medals are very common, and not widely unknown, outside the military. In the US context the Purple Heart is pretty common, isn't it? My recollection was that John Kerry's Purple Hearts would not usually be considered worth mention in the John Kerry article, if it weren't that some critics challenged the significance of his wounds, and implied he used insignificant wounds to get sent home early. When an article says an American served in Vietnam, I think we wouldn't usually mention that they were entitled to wear campaign medals that any veteran who served in Vietnam is entitled to wear. Have I got that right?

So, don't various medals confer a range of notabilities? Is so, how does the Coast Guard Medal compare with the Silver Star and Bronze Star? I am no expert. I don't know. But they aren't awarded that often, and they do seem to require significant daring, which would suggest to me they confer a significant fraction of the notability of a Medal of Honor -- a lot more than the very common medals not worthy of mention.

I tried to make the point that while BLP1E does allow for exceptions, where a single event, like winning a Medal of Honor, is sufficient to establish notability, most individuals' notability is determined by adding up multiple factors that confer notability. I tried to make the point that in Richard Dixon's case, we do have multiple factors conferring notability.

I'd appreciate if you clarified whether you meant to suggest that lesser medals conferred zero notability.

I do recognize that it would be perfectly reasonable for you to say you acknowledge multiple factors can add up to our notability threshhold, and that, in your opinion, the factors in Dixon's case fall short. Geo Swan (talk) 18:35, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

I do, that's what I was trying to say. Sorry if that wasn't clear. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 19:39, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Uglified

After seeing your move on Petrel, it occurs to me this probably should be moved back, too....except LBD Gargoyle is a redirect. Can you handle it when you get a chance? Thx. Also, no need to reply; it's watchlisted, so I'll see it. :) TREKphiler 22:02, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Hmmm. I saw that too, but I'm not 100% sure on that one, actually - as LBD is an aircraft-series designation, and it's arguably as much an unmanned aircraft as a missile (see also Republic-Ford JB-2). It kinda straddles the line! I reckon it can be moved (I was the one who originally moved it back in the Great Aircraft Article Naming Change, I see), but it might be contested. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:05, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Quoting you

Some would no doubt advise against it, but I'm now quoting you (alongside Dennis Brown) on my userpage. :) Salvidrim! ✉ 09:14, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm quotable! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:32, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Hey cockroach

That was some get-together, wasn't it. I wonder how gentlemanly cockroaches act differently from ungentlemanly ones. I'm not going to block the exterminator, though I will probably keep an eye on him. Drmies (talk) 20:49, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

At least he isn't The Orkin Man! And hey, if we're cockroaches that means we're the ones who'll survive the end of the world, right? - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:34, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Bismarck

Hi mate, just pickin' on ya 'cos you're an admin and seemed to be active right now... Might be time to protect German battleship Bismarck‎ and/or block an IP user with a history of disruptive editing who seems to be back after the Xmas/NY holidays. By all means check the history of article and user and make your own mind up... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 01:08, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

I've sunk his battleship by protecting the article for two weeks, and given him a v3 warning to boot (since he's obviously returning to grind his axe with Parsec). - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:33, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Tks for that. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 01:56, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Alex chang

I csd it but article creator took it down, bot put it back up, but then a brand new out of nowhere account took the csd down. I suspect the new account is a sock of the creator. Note the creator has tried to create this article multiple times, and its been taken down. AChang65 in the past has taken down the CSD tags. Pretty clear case of socking to me....William 04:22, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

He's also trying to claim the article is protected. Yup, that's about as ducky as it gets. Drmies already got it, I sent the socky duck to SPI. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:44, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

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98 zantos has returned :(

And he's under the username of User:Thomy98. He just vandalized the 2013 Truck Series page, as well as Cole Whitt's article and created a fanmade Abu Dhabi rally team. So if you'd be so kind as to report him as a sockpuppet and indef ban him. Another question, but how does one apply for being a administrator. Yes, I've been banned once before (though that was 4 years ago), and I think I've become a more responsible editor for Misplaced Pages. So, to further help you all out, I was wondering how to go to the next step of administrator. Thanks!Gaeaman787 (talk) 16:59, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

It took me a moment to figure out who you meant. But yeah, that's him - the "Big Energy" thing is a huge yellow quacking ball of duckiness. Blocked him, and indef'd the original master just to be sure, as it's clear he's only here to present his made up racing teams and is not here to improve the encyclopedia. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 18:43, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

This IP is also obviously him, given the "TS Motorsports" thing. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 18:50, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I just realised I forgot the second part of your question, sorry! With regards to being an admin, I wouldn't worry too much about a past block on your record, if you've learned from it and not repeated what got you blocked - indeed, there are those who regard a clean block log as suspicious. I'd suggest you take some time and read through the significant policies and guidelines, getting a full understanding of them (for instance, you've used "ban" when "block" is what's meant - those are different things). Then I'd suggest asking somebody from outside your usual editing sphere to take a look at your editing - I'd suggest Ed - to give a kind of "outside opinon", as it were. If at that point you're still prepared to grasp for the mop, be prepared for the nattering nabobs of negativism to come out of the woodwork at the circus that is RFA (one person openly speculated that I was a sockpuppet of a disgraced past admin on no other basis than he and I both were in the aircraft project, for instance) - it's not for the faint of heart. But if you're ready to face it, then good luck. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:01, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Jasser Haj Youssef

You closed this debate as no consensus despite it was only created one week ago and had been relisted (twice on the same day by mistake). Would you explain this? I wanted to consult with you before reverting the close. SwisterTwister talk 01:07, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

I was wondering why the AFD script kept telling me edits to today's log page were failing - good work! :) Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 01:08, 24 January 2013 (UTC)