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Merge?

Perhaps this article could be merged into Tiebout model? Szarka (talk) 19:43, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

It should.Volunteer Marek 00:57, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

They should be kept separate. The foot voting article should cover the general concept while the Tiebout model article should cover a specific concept. Tiebout's paper has been cited over 10,000 times...so it's certainly notable enough to warrant its own entry and contain it's own section within the foot voting article. --Xerographica (talk) 01:42, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

But there's no content here that does not belong in Tiebout's article. In fact there's really nothing here. It's a WP:CONTENTFORK, essentially being used as an excuse to include some block quotes from a couple of people. Remove the block quote and there's nothing here. Unless you can show that this has a reason to exist separately from the Tiebout article, I'm making this into a redirect.Volunteer Marek 01:44, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

And what in the world does it have to do with demographics? The fact it was created by an anon IP with an edit summary I am a genious! (sic) doesn't bode well either.Volunteer Marek 01:45, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

The blockquotes establish that other notable people besides Tiebout have discussed this concept. Have you read any reliable sources on this concept? In other words, what are you basing your argument on? --Xerographica (talk) 01:52, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

As I've already said above, I'm "basing my argument" on the fact that once you remove the block quotes there's almost nothing here. There's certainly nothing here that couldn't be simply included in the Tiebout article. Yes, the blockquotes show that Friedman and Hayek made comments along the similar lines but this is irrelevant. First, there need to be secondary sources which discuss "foot voting" in a manner distinct enough from the Tiebout model. I'm not seeing that here. Basically somebody on Misplaced Pages decided that these were relevant and slapped them in here. That's original research and synthesis. Second, Capitalism and Freedom was published after Tiebout's article and IIRC Friedman actually made explicit references to Tiebout somewhere.

Again, this article needs reliable sources and distinct information. Neither of these are here right now. Otherwise, it should be a redirect.Volunteer Marek 02:00, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Once you remove all the content from an article...suddenly the concept is no longer notable enough to warrant it's own entry? That doesn't make any sense. Also...you're confusing research with original research. It requires research to establish whether or not this concept is notable enough to warrant its own entry. Given that two Nobel Prize winning economists have discussed this concept...I don't see why would you doubt the notability of this concept. --Xerographica (talk) 02:08, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Terry Pratchett

"Is it? I understand you've traveled, Agnes," said Vlad, as she struggled. "So you'll know that so many people lead little lives, always under the whip of some king or ruler or master who won't hesitate to sacrifice them in battle or turn them out when they can't work anymore."

But they can run away, Perdita prompted.

"But they can run away!"

"Really? On foot? With a family? And no money? Mostly they never even try. Most people put up with most things, Agnes." - Terry Pratchett, Carpe Jugulum

This relevant passage was removed from the criticism section. I don't see how this edit improves the article. --Xerographica (talk) 01:32, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Is there a reliable secondary source which discusses this particular statement in the context of "Foot Voting" or the Tiebout model? Also blockquotes should be avoided, and honestly the ones by Friedman and Hayek should be removed as well. For one thing, with blockquotes you start running into copyright issues.Volunteer Marek 01:35, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Can you cite the policy that states that secondary sources are required to establish the relevance of a passage from a primary source? If you're concerned with blockquotes and copyright issues...then you should probably head over to the Wikiquote project and start removing quotes. But if you're genuinely interested in improving this article...then you're welcome to add some reliably sourced prose. --Xerographica (talk) 01:48, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

??? WP:OR, WP:SYNTH.Volunteer Marek 02:00, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Please copy and paste the passages from those policies that you think are relevant here. --Xerographica (talk) 02:11, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

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