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Individual seasons for NiSWC

Hi Bushranger. I had a question about the NASCAR iRacing.com Series World Championship (aka NiSWC or DWC Oval), Do you think we should split each of the individual seasons by year? Because the 2013 season just got started and we'll have a bunch of tables on a single page. Even though there also isn't that much info on the teams or drivers from 2010-2011, do you think it should be done? Gaeaman787 (talk) 00:13, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

That's a tricky question. On the one hand, we usually don't have by-season articles for lower-level series (i.e there is no 2012 NASCAR K&N Pro Series East season article), on the other hand, there's no real poicy-based reason why we shouldn't as long as they can be sufficently sourced - they seem like reasonable examples of breakouts to avoid making the main article unduly long. So I'd say, as long as you can find sources stating the winners of each "event", then go ahead and be bold. (I'd also suggest trying to find third-party sources for the main article, as most of those NASCAR.com links are broken now that NASCAR decided to be "smart" and take their page in-house. 1996 called, it wants its webpage back. Ugh.) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:17, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

A couple of things

10 year old boy kidnapped by mafia I proded as a unsourced BLP but it could be CSD as a hoax or maybe patent nonsense. None of the people in the 'drama' is fully named.
I see Ryan was back. Could you possibly email me the Merpati Nusantara Airlines crash article? It might be worth an article, it was at the time worst for type of aircraft, and still #2 today. My email is WilliamJE-at-aol.com
My category merge nomination for People from Agnew, Washington was taken care of you earlier today. I was about to mention it here. Now I did. LOL.
Here's an AFD I started that looks like a Snow. 2013 Peru plane crash AFD looks kaput too. I nominated it a week ago tomorrow. Just letting you know about them.

Thank you....William 00:56, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Yep, those both look like snow to me. I !voted in the second one though. I'll take a look at that first article, and email you the aircrash in a sec. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:02, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Mafia article has hoax all over it. It sleeps with the fishes. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:06, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

I went ahead and made a article on the Merpati Nusantara Airlines crash. The odd thing is- I can't find a source for it but ASN. Airdisaster.com, planecrashinfo.com, google news archive all come up with nothing....William 22:25, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

That is curious. Did you look it up under "Garuda Indonesia Airways Flight 5601" which Ryan's article originally claimed the flight # was? - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:11, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Garuda doesn't come up with anything either Google News search. Planecrash and Airdisaster have nothing listed listed on that date, and I checked Oct 18 1991 and 1993 too not just 1992 which is what ASN states. Not one single news article is weird. BTW states its sources as Air Safety week and something called scramble....William 01:19, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

scramble.nl? That's a pretty useful site, but I'm not sure it crosses the RS bar. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:33, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

I just posted about this at the Accident TF talk page....William 11:06, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Undelete Systems Visualization article?

In the deletion notes it was disparaged as a pet project of VA Shiva Ayyadurai, but that seems like it occurred at a point when there was lots of controversy. It's a growing movement that's an offshoot/combination of data visualization, infographics, and marketing as well (to some degree). There's a woman, unaffiliated with Ayyadurai as far as I can tell, who teaches it at Harvard and has her own site http://visualizingsystems.com/. Many of Manuel Lima's Visual Complexity projects http://www.visualcomplexity.com/vc/ are also within the field, and systems visualization / visualizing complex systems, generically, is the focal point of massive CS visualization development efforts.

While it does seem like the page, as it was constituted at deletion, had primarily one source/viewpoint, it should really have been flagged as POV or something, NOT just deleted. ChatterbotALICE (talk) 13:47, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

The links you mentioned, unfortunatly, don't establish notability as they're not indpendent, reliable sources. That said, if you believe the deletion was in error, you can request undeletion at deletion review. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 16:00, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Beer for grumpy person. Bushranger, you set a high mark with your comments at ANI; I often look to you for guidance, so you just have to live up to it constantly. There are no off-days. One game at a time. 24/7. It's a play-off atmosphere. Rah-rah. All the best to you. Drmies (talk) 04:35, 16 March 2013 (UTC)