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Christianity and references

Bugs,

I figured I'd move this here rather than further indenting a side conversation at the ref desk. To answer your question, though: my chief complaint is that your responses, after the initial "read Jesus" suggestion, are ill-informed speculation devoid of context. Your "Christianity is Christianity" statement is particularly ignorant; every reasonably educated Christian, of any branch (possible exception for the Universalists), is aware that this is not the case. One doesn't need to get into discussions of "who's right" in order to know that the various systems aren't inherently compatible. In the particular case, your claim that "pretty much any Christian denomination, including the JW's, should have the general concept covered" is wildly wrong: the Jehovah's Witnesses are most recognizable for their 144,000 theology, a perspective that differs strongly from most if not all other groups. Finally, for your specific reinterpretation of my request for references, I'll take you up on it. Why is Jesus' resurrection of particular importance to Christians? Why is it qualitatively different from the Shunammite's son's, or Jarius' daughter's, or Tabitha's, or any of the other resurrections attested by the Bible? I'm mildly snarky because I don't think the concept is anywhere near as simple as you present, but it's also a question that I don't personally have a good answer for. I'm genuinely interested if you've got one. — Lomn 01:58, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

The famous "144,000" is a detail that is obviously not widely accepted, even though Revelation uses that number. The general notion of an afterlife, a resurrection, is vital to all branches of Christianity. Without it, nothing else matters, and it falls apart. If you can find a Christian denominaton that does not believe in the Resurrection of Jesus, I'll be properly shocked and awed. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 02:05, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Done. If you'd linked to resurrection of Jesus, you'd have found the following sentence: "Groups such as... as some liberal Christians dispute whether Jesus actually rose from the dead." That article then cites various Christian theologians who deny the resurrection of Jesus. There's also the couple thousand years of history of the dispute over whether that resurrection was physical or spiritual (and by extension, disagreement over what constitutes "resurrection"). And I'll note that you're still not offering any answer for "why it matters". — Lomn 02:16, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

If there's no Resurrection, then there's no religion. A "philosophy", maybe, but not a religion. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 10:38, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

So you don't consider anyone who follows the Jewish faith as being a religious follower? (Note: I was raised as United Presbyterian, but never studied studied theology) — Ched :  ?  10:52, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm talking strictly about Christianity. The Resurrection is essential to Christianity as a religion. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 22:03, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Alfalfa

Just out of curiousity, were you aware that Alfalfa was a racist slur? Wee Curry Monster talk 19:18, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Tor proxy block

Thanks for the compliment; I simply blocked the IP for 999,999,999 seconds and decided to let the software figure out how long that was. Nyttend (talk) 12:18, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

(Was just passing through and saw the maths sum.) About 31.6 Years I believe.

999,999,999 / 60 = minutes / 60 = hours / 24 = days /61 = months (2 months, 30 days and 31 respectively) / 6 (because covered 2 months in the last divide) = Years. Try it yourself :) MIVP - (Can I Help?) (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 13:43, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

In no way do I doubt you, but

Can you give some sort of overlap between User:ItsLassieTime and Timothyhere or Kotjap, etc.? I do see there was something with Timmy and Timothy here, and find the Montana/British Columbia connection suspicious. Thanks, I'll watch here. μηδείς (talk) 20:45, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

I can't prove it, it's just a hunch. And my hunches are not always right. And in the bigger picture, it's somewhat interesting, but doesn't really matter. The behavior is also a bit like Light Current. The difference from both of them is subject matter. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 22:00, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

I'll agree the behaviour is the same. Isn't "Timothy" a connection? (I never watched Lassie, though.) μηδείς (talk) 22:22, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

And the sock called "Truckowner". He could be trying to tell us something. Or it could just be dumb luck, so to speak. "TimmyTruck" was actually the sockmaster. "ItsLassieTime" was created later. And, yes, "Timmy" (Jon Provost) was a star of one of the Lassie series. But subject matter is way different from what ILT was into, at least at the time, some 4 years ago. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 22:43, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

reporting 109.151.98.87 to AIV

Many thanks. - Fantr (talk) 20:45, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome. I do what I can. :) ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 22:44, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

your Questions in http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Science#interstellar_Bomb

you written two answers within my Quest to avert the Prophecy. Since the discussion was closed before I could have written an answer, I will answer them here. I can imagine another way this alleged prophecy could "be here": Someone made it up. Created the idea in their imagination. It happens, you know.

the prophecy isn't made up. I found it 3 years ago, and started deciphering after I found the other one (there is at least one single other Person who posses the full Prophecy and is able to deciphering it) who helped me in deciphering, and the other found it 5 years ago and is deciphering since a bit longer than 3 years. The point is: in all this time the Prophecy wasn't changed, just copied again and again (to make it impossible to get lost) but it sucessfully predicted the so called arab spring (although I deciphered that part just recently, after it had already started), as the second of just 3 dated predictions in the first half of the 21th Century. So, no, the Prophecy isn't taken from thin air, it's fact.

Why worry about something 2,000 years in the future, when there's so much stuff to worry about in the here and now?

simple: because it's the only predicted event that can be averted. There are a lot of terrible events predicted by the Prophecy, which I really would want to negate if it would be possible, but I can't. Because this events are all the result of the Developments within our Universe, so the Blackbird-Molotow-Reich-Effect will cause that it would only be possible to delay that Events a bit (that farther ones not even that). The Multiverse-War is different, because it includes Causes from other Universes, and the Blackbird-Molotow-Reich-Effect did not adhere to interaction between Paralleluniverses.--AlaneOrenProst (talk) 07:45, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

I don't believe in "prophecies", nor does most anyone at wikipedia, so you're barking up the wrong tree here. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 12:48, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

well, you may do not believe in the Prophecy, but it is true, nevertheless, I know it. Just because you decided to ignore the fact, that the Prophecy is right, it did not make it wrong.--AlaneOrenProst (talk) 13:00, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

The future has not happened yet, so if an alleged prophecy turns out to be "true", it was just dumb luck on somebody's part. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 13:05, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

you think so threedimensional. It wasn't just luck, the Prophecy is an precise discription of uman History from the future, sent into our past via time-travel. Everybody will realize that the Prophecy is true, when their Predictions will came true one after another, but I can not wait so long. The Prophecy is true, now and forever. That's Fact.--AlaneOrenProst (talk) 13:12, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

You seem to have confused an Arthur C. Clarke story with reality. The "Fact" is that there is no such thing as backwards time travel, and dat's dat. Whatever this alleged "Prophecy" is, it's a work of fiction. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 16:28, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

You are insulting me on the Base of your own ignorance. The Prophecy is not a work of Fiction, I know it. As I already mentioned before, the Prophecy sucessfull made a Prediction of an notable World event more than three Years in advance (but, as I said before, that part wasn't deciphered until recently, aka two years to late). And, in contrast to your overconfident but false claim, it is possible to travel backwards in time, acording to the ammendment of the third scroll via to so called "Time-Gate" or "Time-Portal" (translation is a bit tricky here), a technical artifact created by the mighty Alien-civilasion of the so calles "Elders" (contacted by the TMSC Belgrad in 3896, acording to the amendment of the second scroll), which was found by the TMSC Hope, while fleeing from terran-Cygnian-war in 3007.

and, in response of your false and annoying claiming, that every Prophecy must be false: just because you surving despite your incredible narrowmindness, that did not mean, your are allways right. Your aren't. --AlaneOrenProst (talk) 16:56, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

• The good news is that I believe you: the Entities that created your Prophesy actually can travel back in time, and many of their Prophesies are true.
• The bad news is they have a sense of humor, and so some of the Prophesies are just the younger Entities having a good laugh. The one about Emperor Dukakis celebrating his 25th year in power in January 2014 is an example.
• But the best news is that I have access to my own Entities, and they're even more reliable than your Entities, and they say your Entities are making up the Multiverse War. It's actually Multiversapalooza 4023, featuring... believe it or not... Keith Richards. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:37, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

please spare your bad jokes. This is a serious matter. And I know pretty well about the Multiverse-War, swince it is the Focus of the entire forth Scroll. --AlaneOrenProst (talk) 20:46, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Alan, has it occurred to you that you are talking delusionist nonsense?--Anthony Bradbury 20:54, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

no. But, I suppose, it might look so, because I can give only a fragmentary disarranged picture. The Blackbird-Molotow-Reich-Effect maybe also cause enhanced sceptism, to make it harder for me to spread the Prophecy. --AlaneOrenProst (talk) 21:01, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Backwards time-travel is not possible. Any premise that assumes otherwise is bogus. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 22:21, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Current human Scientists (and, as I have to admit, even future human Scientiest, until the Time-Portal is discovered, and even after that they can't explain how it works) say it is impossible. But every Scientist before Rutherford discoverd the Atomic nucleus also would have called splitting an Atom impossible.--AlaneOrenProst (talk) 07:20, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Bugs, I think we are just feeding a troll here. --Anthony Bradbury 10:23, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Whether or not, we're pretty much at the "endless loop" phase at this point. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 10:50, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Restricted-use media list

An RfC that may interest you has been opened at MediaWiki talk:Bad image list#Restricted-use media list, so please come and include your opinion. – PAINE ELLSWORTH  09:49, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Good Humor

Leave your firearms, weapons of mass destruction and/or 'pew pew' zap guns at the door, seriously I laughed at that thing like 4 times (and a 5th when I looked back over it) while trying to type it out (in a class at the time of typing) and the please be neuter doesn't really help in stopping me from laughing. Combine that with your Bugs Bunny theme and well do I really need more justification to give you this? MIVP - (Can I Help?) (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 13:51, 20 March 2013 (UTC)