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Interpersonal communication does not work when messages are left on individual users' talk pages rather than threaded, especially when a third party wishes to read or reply.

Being a "bear of very little brain", I get easily confused when trying to follow conversations that bounce back and forth, so I've decided to try the convention that many others seem to use, aggregation of messages on either your talk page or my talk page. If the conversation is about an article I will try to aggregate on the article's talk page.

• If the conversation is on your talk page or an article talk page, I will watch it.
• If the conversation is on my talk page or an article talk page and I think that you may not be watching it, I will link to it in a note on your talk page, or in the edit summary of an empty edit. But if you start a thread here, please watch it.

I may mess up, don't worry, I'll find it eventually. Ping me if you really need to.

please note this is a personal preference rather than a matter of site policy

Category:Kalahari Surfers albums

Category:Kalahari Surfers albums, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:14, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

File:Markchapmanmugshot.jpg

Hi John. I have deleted the mug shot. There was still one non-free file on the page; it's the famous shot where Lennon is autographing the album cover. So I have put that one in the info box. Please feel free to contest this decision if you disagree. Best, -- Dianna (talk) 01:26, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, I do disagree that the image qualified for speedy deletion. --John (talk) 10:56, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Before I open a DRV, when you deleted, had you read File talk:Markchapmanmugshot.jpg and User talk:Crisco 1492/Archive 38#File:Markchapmanmugshot.jpg? I believe it needs to go through WP:FFD if a speedy is contested. --John (talk) 11:02, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I did read it, and then thought about the problem for quite a while. There were five non-free images in the article, and four of them were nominated for speedy deletion, so I deleted those four, and moved the one remaining file to the info box. My rationale for deleting it is that for living people we normally do not keep any non-free images at all; to keep even one is an exception to the norm. I think the correct procedure is for the decision to go to Deletion Review for further discussion, not to FFD. -- Dianna (talk) 14:53, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Procedurally I feel you made a mistake. I also wish you had used some common sense; the reason we do not normally use nonfree images of living people is that they are generally considered as replaceable. It is hard to argue that this is the case here. Sigh. --John (talk) 18:32, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

I think we would have a hard time selling the need for two non-free images in this article, and my opinion is that the one with Lennon is more relevant and more compelling than the mug shot. If you disagree with this decision, please go ahead with a deletion review to get some wider community input. -- Dianna (talk) 18:45, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

So you based your decision to implement a contested speedy deletion on your opinion about which picture was better? I think this was poor judgement and counter to our norms. --John (talk) 18:53, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Clafa.png

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Clafa.png, has been listed at Misplaced Pages:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Kelly 06:16, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

It is actually my own work from very early in my career at Misplaced Pages, but I also think it isn't my best work so I have happily deleted it. --John (talk) 17:41, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Reactions to death of Hugo Chavez too long?

Hi, I recently edited that page to add the reactions of the Mexican government, and I noticed you put a "too long" tag on it. There are pages such as International reactions to the death of Muammar Gaddafi or Reactions to the death of Osama bin Laden that are even longer than this one. So far, it seems fine. Maybe Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana, and Colombia's sections are a bit long, but considering those countries were quite close to Venezuela, it makes sense. I just don't think it's "fluff" as you called it. Cancerbero 8 (talk) 14:14, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Then we disagree. Having a long section purely made up of conventional expressions of condolence and little flags does not seem encyclopedic to me. --John (talk) 14:16, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

I think it's necessary, since some of them do contain important information (days of mourning, for example). Also, in cases like this one the reactions were extremely mixed, which help show the relations between both countries involved (consider that there aren't pages for every single bilateral relation). Chavez was a controversial leader as well, so I expect reactions from some other countries to be different than conventional expressions of condolence. Cancerbero 8 (talk) 14:24, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Well, that gives us something to look forwards to, eh? It's pretty banal so far, you have to admit. --John (talk) 14:27, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

I agree with that, but it's only been a day, so maybe by the end of the week it will have more interesting reactions to read. Cancerbero 8 (talk) 14:36, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for NightWash

On 9 March 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article NightWash, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in the early days of NightWash, Klaus-Jürgen Deuser performed his comedy show on a platform next to tumble dryers? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

DYK for Klaus-Jürgen Deuser

On 9 March 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Klaus-Jürgen Deuser, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in the early days of NightWash, Klaus-Jürgen Deuser performed his comedy show on a platform next to tumble dryers? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Help wanted

A blast from the past. Added an article but I'm a bit rusty! Sarah777 (talk) 19:54, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Sarah, nice to see you. It looks good. A map wouldn't go amiss, I'm thinking. --John (talk) 19:57, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

But what about the duplicity?? Sarah777 (talk) 20:00, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Ah sorry, I wasn't clear. It looks like WW2censor sorted it for you. --John (talk) 20:08, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Recurrence of blocket sockpuppet

Further to our exchange at your Talk about a month ago, the same User is at it again now that their 2 week block has expired. I have requested temp semi-protection of the John Logie Baird article. --Mais oui! (talk) 05:39, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

This is worth a look as well. I suggest reopening Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Flagators/Archive might be better than semiprotection. --John (talk) 06:12, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Abala, Niger

hi, any chance you could translate this from here?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:49, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Done. --John (talk) 19:47, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	Nigerien Award of National merit
	For your translation of Abala, Niger. Not many people get given this one hehe! Thanks! ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 15:40, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Wow, thanks! That's a real honour to get that one. --John (talk) 17:55, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Copyeditor's Barnstar
	Although we can agree to disagree about image sizes, your copyediting at Middle Ages was greatly appreciated and a great help to the article. Ealdgyth - Talk 21:49, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Wow thanks! It's a beautiful article. --John (talk) 21:55, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

George Harrison

Hi, John. Since you commented at the original FAC for George Harrison, I wonder if you wouldn't mind giving it a second look for the current FAC when you get a chance. As always, any input you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Evanh2008  07:55, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. I was watching and will try to have a proper look when I can. --John (talk) 12:12, 24 March 2013 (UTC)