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:Feel free to edit what I've put above. I just got rid of everything that didn't have a third-party reliable source. Perhaps there are more sources out there now we could add. But I think there aren't many sources because Touré just hasn't had whole lot of noteworthy events in his career so far. His co-host ] has a short article for the same reason. BTW, I'd also add that the Piers Morgan paragraph could probably be paired down to prevent undue weight, especially in light of shortening everything else. ] (]) 20:25, 30 March 2013 (UTC) | :Feel free to edit what I've put above. I just got rid of everything that didn't have a third-party reliable source. Perhaps there are more sources out there now we could add. But I think there aren't many sources because Touré just hasn't had whole lot of noteworthy events in his career so far. His co-host ] has a short article for the same reason. BTW, I'd also add that the Piers Morgan paragraph could probably be paired down to prevent undue weight, especially in light of shortening everything else. ] (]) 20:25, 30 March 2013 (UTC) | ||
OK, I made the edit, prompted by what I believe are ], ], and ] violations with extensive references to this article in ''The Daily Caller''. I left it in as a citation, so readers are free to check it out and decide for themselves. I think the career section could be filled in a little more, but everything added should have reliable third-party sources as per ]. ] (]) 17:18, 11 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
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Autobiography
The bulk of this article reads like an autobiography, especially the Career section. Indeed, many of the edits were made by User:Toure and the article was created by User:General Kizza whose contributions are mainly the Toure article. Many of the references are primary sources, including all the links to articles written by the subject used to cite a comment that the subject has written articles. Here is how I would reboot the Career section using independent, reliable sources:
(Add to Early Life)
While a student at Emory University, Touré founded the black student newspaper, The Fire This Time.
Career
Touré began his career as a music journalist, contributing articles to Rolling Stone, The New Yorker, The New York Times Magazine, Playboy, The Village Voice, Vibe, and Essence magazine. He has written five books, including Who's Afraid of Post-Blackness?, a collection of interviews, and I Would Die 4 U: Why Prince Became an Icon, a Prince biography.
Touré has appeared on television as a pop culture correspondent for CNN, MSNBC, Black Entertainment Television and other networks. He currently hosts The Cycle on MSNBC.
Controversies
On March 29, 2012, Touré criticized Piers Morgan's interview of Robert Zimmerman regarding his brother George's shooting of Trayvon Martin on Morgan's CNN talk show, Piers Morgan Tonight, stating that Morgan failed to ask Zimmerman challenging questions, and provided a platform for mendacity on Zimmerman's part. Appearing on next day's episode of Piers Morgan Tonight the two continued their hostilities, with Morgan calling into question Touré's journalistic professionalism and Touré arguing that because Morgan was not originally from the United States and had only been working in the U.S. for a decade or so, he was incapable of "understanding America". The two continued to feud on Twitter after the show's taping. Toure later apologized for his conduct during the interview, saying that he got sidetracked into personal exchanges with Morgan, instead of focusing on justice for Martin.
On August 16, 2012, on The Cycle, Touré caused a controversy by stating that by calling President Barack Obama "angry," Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney was engaging in the "niggerization" of the president. He apologized for using the word the next day.
Fnordware (talk) 18:32, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
I agree the career section is a bit wordy and could be cleaned up, but I find your suggested "Career" section a bit too thin. But otherwise, it reads better. TuckerResearch (talk) 18:23, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- Feel free to edit what I've put above. I just got rid of everything that didn't have a third-party reliable source. Perhaps there are more sources out there now we could add. But I think there aren't many sources because Touré just hasn't had whole lot of noteworthy events in his career so far. His co-host Steve Kornacki has a short article for the same reason. BTW, I'd also add that the Piers Morgan paragraph could probably be paired down to prevent undue weight, especially in light of shortening everything else. Fnordware (talk) 20:25, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
OK, I made the edit, prompted by what I believe are WP:NPOV, WP:BLP, and WP:WEIGHT violations with extensive references to this article in The Daily Caller. I left it in as a citation, so readers are free to check it out and decide for themselves. I think the career section could be filled in a little more, but everything added should have reliable third-party sources as per WP:BLP. Fnordware (talk) 17:18, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Death of father before he was born?
I'm curious about the mention that his father died before Touré was born. In his book, Who's afraid of post-blackness, Touré writes repeatedly of interactions he had with both his parents. That would contradict the claim that his father died before he was born. Is there a citation for this claim?
Cmcguinness (talk) 02:12, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
- Interesting. Seems to have been added with this edit. No source and possibly wrong, so go ahead and take it out. Fnordware (talk) 17:52, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
- Mary J. Loftus (Autumn 2009). "News makers". Emory Magazine. Retrieved 25 April 2012.
- ^ Menz, Wonders, Petey E., Jeannie Sui. "Critic Touré Reveals Prince's Religious Roots". The Harvard Crimson. www.thecrimson.com. Retrieved May 7, 2012.
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: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link) - Mattei, Al. "Book Review: Visionary Choice Mark 2001 Edition". www.topofthecircle.com. Retrieved May 7, 2012.
- Lewis, Miles Marshall (August 25, 2011). "It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Black". Huffington Post.
- "Community Surface". Tennis Channel. accessed May 24, 2011.
- Lauerman, Kerry (June 21, 2012). "Kornacki an MSNBC host, too". Salon Magazine. Salon Media Group. Retrieved June 22, 2012.
- Christopher, Tommy (March 30, 2012). "Piers Morgan And Touré Finish Their Twitter Feud On CNN’s Air". Mediaite.
- Stableford, Dylan (Apr 1, 2012). "Toure apologizes for Piers Morgan meltdown". Yahoo! News.
- ^ Wemple, Erik (17 Aug 2012). "MSNBC's Touré apologizes for 'niggerization' remark". The Washington Post. Retrieved 2012-09-21.
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