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His Middle Name is BOOBEN??!?

I heard this is true. Is it true or is it true?

Education

The Birmingham News says that Hicks attended Auburn, but it doesn't say whether or not Hicks was graduated from Auburn. The article also says that Hicks attended the University of Alabama at Birmingham: "Hicks' focus has never wavered from that goal, although, for practicality's sake, he did attend Auburn University and the University of Alabama at Birmingham. A degree in broadcast journalism just didn't have the allure of entertainment, nor did it hold Hicks' interest for long." -- SwissCelt 04:44, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

First come, first served?

Under that theory, wouldn't the page about Hicks on WBHM's "Tapestry" come first in the list of external links? Hicks appeared on that program in December, 2005, before he appeared on American Idol. I believe all the fansites came after his AI audition. -- SwissCelt 21:06, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

External links

Curious why the links to American Idol Scoop and American Idol on Squidoo are considered non-noteable links. Looking at the sirlinksalot link which was left in the standard for quality seems arbitrary.

• Misplaced Pages is not a web directory (see also WP:WEB):
  • The Sir-links-a-lot lists a variety of links, so it's a suitable place for those who want to find blogs, forums, etc...instead of listing them all here
  • Alexa rank for Idolscoop: 1,074,204
  • Squidoo.com sites are by their nature, non-notable -- MisterHand 18:47, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

More info

I've come under fire for deleting several external links from this page. While I understand everybody's eagerness to promote their Taylor Hicks blogs and fansites, Misplaced Pages is not a web directory.

Frankly, if somebody removed the "Sir Links a Lot" page I wouldn't shed any tears (I didn't add it). I haven't removed it because it does provide links to several fan pages. When it comes to fan pages, the guidelines say it's preferable to have one link to a page that lists several fan pages. The Sir Links a Lot link provides that service. See WP:EL for the guidelines.

If I've deleted a link that you think meets the guidelines set under WP:EL, state your case here or on my talk page. Lord knows, I've been wrong about this sort of thing before (frequently). -- MisterHand 21:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

So please explain why you are leaving the "Soul Patrol" thread on the page? Also, at this early stage of Taylor's "fame" wouldn't it be nice to leave some external links around. Personally, I see the sirlinksalot stuff as ugly spammy garbage.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.50.62.46 (talk • contribs) 

If you don't like the SirLinksALot link, be bold and remove it (preferably replace with a better fansite listing. As for the Soul Patrol listing, I think I'll move it up as an in-line reference (since that's exactly what it is). -- MisterHand 03:14, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Death to Sir Linksalot

Okay, folks, I killed the controversial Sir Linksalot link. While I agree with the Wikipedian who said it would be nice to have some external links, it would be even nicer if those links actually pointed us to helpful and verifiable info. Let me say that again: Our purpose here is to provide helpful, encyclopedic, verifiable information on the subject of the article, Mr. Taylor Hicks. It is not our place to ride the coattails of Hicks, basking in whatever reflected fame we might find from him.

I'm not opposed to adding more external links to the article, but they should be along the lines of links already in the article: News reports, official websites (remember, Hicks' own official site will likely come back online after AI5), media appearances, biographies, etc. Though of course Misplaced Pages is not a crystal ball, I'd like to set this article up for the long run. I suspect Hicks will be around a while. -- SwissCelt 06:52, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

• I'll stand with you on this. --Dystopos 14:51, 10 March 2006 (UTC) (Veteran of Bo Bice and Natalee Holloway linkspam fights)

"Prematurely" Grey Hair

Saying his hair is "prematurely grey" is POV. There's no set time/age for a man's hair to turn grey. Certainly it is prominent in the elderly, but there are also 16 year olds who have grey hair. This man is not "prematurely grey" as that implies that there is a definitive age for the greying of hair. There is not, thus the inclusion is the POV of the user who posted it. I have removed it. Batman2005 04:53, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Good catch. Still, I wouldn't call it "the POV of the user who posted it", per se. Hicks' hair has been described as "prematurely grey" in several sources. An example: "Mildly convulsin' harmonica-playin' soul man Taylor Hicks, meanwhile, seems poised to supplant Anderson Cooper as the nation's primary prematurely gray lust object." -"The Better Half", by Michael Slezak. Entertainment Weekly, March 16, 2006. I don't know where this meme originated, but I'm pretty sure it's not Misplaced Pages. Even so, I see no real reason for its inclusion here... again, good catch, Batman. -- SwissCelt 13:02, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Albums

Does he really have 2 albums out? Why is he on american idol then? Tutmosis 00:20, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Because they were independently produced with little or no visibility at the time, and because he's not currently under any management or recording contract. Wasted Time R 01:24, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Intresting... I am amazed they havent mentioned this yet on American Idol. Tutmosis 19:10, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

It's worth noting that like Taylor, Lisa Tucker have also started her singing career early. Although she didn't produce any album like Taylor. I think Idol should extend the "no contract" rule to mean total anonymity. To make it fair for the rest of the contestants. The bottom line is, any form of singing exposure, be it independently produced or not, still translates to some form of public exposure that will make voting bias. Once an artist starts to do public gigs they will surely gain some fans. And those fans will most likely vote for them. In the context of fairness in the show, do you think the "Crying cowboy" has the same footing with Taylor Hicks? Unless his turkeys can vote. Think about it. The guy is right, at some point they should address this issue on the show. Not to disqualify Taylor or anything but to tell the truth and let viewers decided for themselves. It may or may not matter. --- Hum 2:28 4/18/06

Birth date wrong

Taylor Hicks' birthday is actually 10-06-76. I don't know where the January date came from but it is incorrect.

Well change it then. Wasted Time R 01:24, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

I added the reference where I found Hicks' date of birth. If this is incorrect, that's fine, but please include the source when you correct the date. -- SwissCelt 19:19, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

It's changed now. I didn't have the source when I first posted this, but the source already listed has 10/6/76, so I changed it here. -- Sher973 19:41, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

• According to The Official Soul Patrol H.Q. biography: "...Hicks was born October 6, 1976 at Saint Vincent's Hospital in Birmingham, Alabama.". That site seems much more authoritative than the reference given in the text, American Idolblog, which gives 1-24-1977. I'm changing the reference and I think that barring further revelations, the October '76 date is authoritative. --Dystopos 22:41, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. -- SwissCelt 03:37, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Simon's "drunk remark."

I'm going to link to a video clip of the ET report, please keep it until I can get the proper clip.--DodgerOfZion 22:44, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

"Something" performance

Was just doing some looking around at past Idol performances and could not find anything that mentioned past performances of Beatles songs. So I looked into it and found very little except for someone mentioning in a blog somewhere about American Idol not getting clearance to do Beatles songs. Now Taylor does a Beatles song, and I think Clay Aiken did one back in Season 2. Anyone know what the deal is with Beatles songs not being done on Idol as much as you'd figure they would...I mean, Lennon /Mccartney...great songs.

Well, Michael Jackson owns the rights to most of the Beatles catalog, so they have to go through him to do most Beatles songs. --DodgerOfZion 00:46, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

I wonder if the recent, partial sale of the library to Sony has anything to do with AI's getting clearance? -- SwissCelt 01:46, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Could be. --DodgerOfZion 00:14, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Not really. "Something" is a George Harrison song, whereas Jackson and Sony own the Lennon-McCartney songs.

Background info

• I'm not much interested in spending a lot of time with this article, but for anyone wanting some background details, the Birmingham News published an interview with his parents today: link. --Dystopos 13:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

TH Day

According to the City of Hoover document, Taylor Hicks Day is May 12. When the video clip aired on American Idol, either the mayor slipped and said 16th or the producers edited it to match the airdate. Or the document is wrong. Whatever the reason, I'm going to go with the 12th. ~chantessy

Trivia

• Why was the trivia regarding the other Idol contestants from Birmingham removed? Any specific reason? --Nmajdan 19:30, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

"someone wrote "Taylor hicks blows and he doesnt make anyone proud," how come no one has fixed this, is this a verifiable fact, if so show me the source!"

He won....when?

OK, so he was announced as the big winner about 5 minutes ago, but this page was edited with the fact 4 hours ago. How did they know?

• They're psychic? Who cares?

--Amynewyork4248 02:13, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Uh, isn't all this stuff about Katherine beeing "cheated" a little biased?

Where is this comment in the article? It's probably a transient vandalistic edit. --HappyCamper 03:09, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Goldfish

Somewhere along the edits, the names of the goldfish were lost. I removed them after noticing some ambiguity between the edits. Are the names of the goldfish "Lamont" and "Ray"? Some editors seem to think it is "Ray-Ray". It would be nice if we had a source. --HappyCamper 02:31, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

• Try lamontandray.com for background on the goldfish. The height is, I believe, from the record of the marijuana arrest. --Dystopos 02:34, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

• • According to AL.com, thier names are Lamont and Ray. Source:

lol...alright, I suppose we can add this tidbit back into the article. Thanks! --HappyCamper 03:00, 25 May 2006 (UTC)