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Belated Happy New Year with a Toast!

	Here's a toast to the host Of those who edit wiki near and far, To a friend we send a message, "keep the data up to par". We drink to those who wrote a lot of prose, And then they whacked a vandal several dozen blows. A toast to the host of those who boast, the Wikipedians! - From {{subst:TheGeneralUser}}

~TheGeneralUser (talk) has bought you a whisky! Sharing a whisky is a great way to bond with other editors after a day of hard work. Spread the WikiLove by buying someone else a whisky, whether it be someone with whom you have collaborated or had disagreements. Enjoy!

~TheGeneralUser (talk) — is wishing you a Happy New Year! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Spread the New Year cheer by adding {{subst:New Year 1}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

A Very Happy (belated) New Year to you Arbitraily0 :) Enjoy the Whisky! ~TheGeneralUser (talk) 06:49, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks TheGeneralUser, much appreciated. Best regards, Arbitrarily0  16:15, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Arbitrarily0

Then maybe you might have an interest in joining WikiProject Gerald Ford! We're a group of editors working to improve Misplaced Pages's coverage of the life, career, and presidency of Gerald Ford.

We're very much a new project, so you have the opportunity to help form the design and structure of the WikiProject itself in addition to creating and improving content about Ford. You are more than welcome to join us by adding your username under the "Participants" section of our WikiProject page. Everyone is welcome, and you are free to contribute where and when you like.

I am in. Arbitrarily0  01:44, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Card of Thanks

Just a short note to say I appreciate the trust in me you gave when granting rollback rights. I have screwed up so many times since then, but I try to fix my mistakes and I always remember that my actions could reflect on you, even now that I'm beginning to use Twinkle and AWB. Hope you're continuing to do well, and continued warm regards. RiverStyx23{_submarine} 03:07, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Why thanks, RiverStyx23. Keep up the good work - and be sure to have some fun while your at it! Thanks for dropping by; you are welcome anytime. Arbitrarily0  19:06, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Rule of mixtures

On 14 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Rule of mixtures, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the rule of mixtures predicts composite material properties ranging from ultimate tensile strength to electrical conductivity? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Rule of mixtures. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:04, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Graeme! Arbitrarily0  03:48, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Meeting this week?

Happy new semester! I may have missed you guys last week, but are we all still meeting Thurs. nights this term? Not sure I can make it this week but that is generally a good time for me. Adam Kriesberg (talk) 03:54, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Greetings Adam! Yes, meetings will continue as last term. I will be out of town tomorrow, but we are aiming to set up our mass meeting / edit-a-thon for Thursday January 31. Best regards, Arbitrarily0  03:47, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

January 2013

In a recent edit to the page Air ioniser, you changed one or more words or styles from one national variety of English to another. Because Misplaced Pages has readers from all over the world, our policy is to respect national varieties of English in Misplaced Pages articles.

For a subject exclusively related to the United Kingdom (for example, a famous British person), use British English. For something related to the United States in the same way, use American English. For something related to another English-speaking country, such as Canada, Australia, or New Zealand, use the variety of English used there. For an international topic, use the form of English that the original author used.

In view of that, please don't change articles from one version of English to another, even if you don't normally use the version in which the article is written. Respect other people's versions of English. They, in turn, should respect yours. Other general guidelines on how Misplaced Pages articles are written can be found in the Manual of Style. If you have any questions about this, you can ask me on my talk page or visit the help desk. Thank you. Escape Orbit 18:46, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Please revert your changes, I see no reason for this change of spelling. Thanks. --Escape Orbit 18:49, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Greetings Escape Orbit, I believe my change was in argreement with Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style#Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style. The majority of the article (including the all of the sources, use "ize"). Your thoughts? Arbitrarily0  18:52, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

What the cites use doesn't matter as we are not using the cites to verify the spelling. Are you suggesting that the article can now only use cites with the 'z' spelling? Because should anyone add one with an 's' the consistency you're trying to achieve would be ruined. Yes, consistency within the article matters, but I believe it was consistent using 's'. MOS guidelines say that unless there is a clear national connection in the article subject, spelling varieties should not be changed. --Escape Orbit 18:58, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

My apologies, Escape Orbit; in my link above I sourced the wrong location. I intended to link to Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style#Consistency within articles, which addresses this. The idea is to use the spelling that is already most common within the article. In this case, "ize" was more common (2:1 or 3:1, without including the sources). The fact that the source use "ize" is an just a coincidental bonus, nothing more. Arbitrarily0  19:04, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Consistency is equally about sticking with how the spelling started out, unless there is good reason to change. If there was content added to the article that doesn't follow the spelling of the article name, no matter how many instances, then it is they that should be fixed, not the other way around. If I add a bunch more cited content, choosing to spell it with an 's', do we switch it all back again? That doesn't seem a sensible way of handling things. --Escape Orbit 13:18, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Escape Orbit. I agree completely. I merely presumed, given the significantly larger frequency of American spellings, that American English was the pre-existing state of the article (it was even tagged with {{Use American English}}). Evidently not, but Jon C. has efficiently addressed this. Arbitrarily0  14:16, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Thx

Thanks for the heads-up! Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 19:18, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

No problem, Klemen. Take care, Arbitrarily0  19:23, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Copy of deleted pages request

Hello. Would you be so kind as to provide a copy of some deleted pages please? I'm not bothered about restoring them as I do not want to get into the politics of why they were deleted. As a part time football historian and statistician they are of some use. Many thanks. Dean Redmond 178.167.254.177 (talk) 20:45, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Greetings Dean. Which pages did you have in mind? Arbitrarily0  16:14, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Very grateful if you could send on Ricky McEvoy, Neil Poutch and Barry O'Connor please. Can we swap emails here? Thanks again. 178.167.254.13 (talk) 19:18, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

You can reach me at Special:EmailUser/Arbitrarily0 (although you may need to create an account to do so - let me know if this is a problem). Arbitrarily0  01:13, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Ok I have created an account now and sent you an email. Many thanks again. HitchHikedtoAthlone (talk) 17:43, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Did you get that email? HitchHikedtoAthlone (talk) 19:33, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Alright, I have emailed them off. Let me know if there are any problems. Arbitrarily0  20:31, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for all your help. Great to see there are helpful admins here! HitchHikedtoAthlone (talk) 21:00, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Glad to help. Take care, Arbitrarily0  02:17, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Two things...

Arbitrarily0, I've got a couple quick things for you:

1. User:Malepheasant is the user I mentioned last night
2. Could you please take a look at this for the Vladivostok Summit article and rate it objectively on our WP:GRF quality and importance scales?

Thanks and have a great weekend! Michael Barera (talk) 18:42, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for rating the Vladivostok Summit article! It's much appreciated! Michael Barera (talk) 20:25, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Sure, Michael. I noticed that the page history of Vladivostok Summit Meeting on Arms Control when copying from Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Gerald Ford/Peer review was fragmented. Was this intended? Arbitrarily0  20:26, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes: when I write new articles like this (admittedly I've only done it a few times, but still), I like to develop them in a sandbox or sandbox-like space until they are ready to move to the mainspace. I've linked to WP:GRF/PR in the history, but I regard the article itself as being "created" when it was moved into the mainspace, not when I started working in my sandbox. If you think this practice is incorrect, please let me know, but I've been doing it for years and haven't had any problems with it (or even comments about it). Thanks and have a great break! Michael Barera (talk) 20:30, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

It is not a problem when you are the only contributor (as was the case here, or in your sandbox), but it causes an attribution issue when several users collaborate. The problem in this case is that next time there is a collaboration undertaken at WP:GRF/PR, the old history will be combined with the new, and will need sorting out (assuming multiple different users contribute). It should be noted that DYK agrees with you that articles are "created" when they are moved to the mainspace. Cheers mate, Arbitrarily0  00:36, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Request unprotection of List of best selling music artists

Hello. A year and a half ago, on 10 September 2011, you protected the article List of best selling music artists due to persistent vandalism. I'm sure the vandals have moved on since then. I would like to request that the article be unprotected. Thank you. 24.22.75.14 (talk) 23:00, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Dear, 24.22.75.14. This is a very active page, therefore I think it would be better to bring this up at Talk:List of best-selling music artists. I am unfamiliar with the subject, and so I think the editors there will know the situation better. However, please let me know if you have any questions. Arbitrarily0  00:39, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Please help to provide fair information

The page related cTrader (of spotware limited) had been deleted by you - I do not understand why: the company operates on the market for a few years; won nomination of the year in forex industry for 2012; has a significant market share, authorised by various financial institutions in Europe, there is so much about it in the press; why do you object public learning more about the company? Please help me to find justice in this unfair world.

Kind regards Olga ---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.152.19.73 (talk) 20:29, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Greetings Olga. If you think that cTrader meets Misplaced Pages's criteria for notability (which it very well may), I would recommend that you collect all of the relevant secondary sources. Feel free to paste them here. Alternatively, it may be better to start by expanding the section in FxPro#cTrader. Let me know your thoughts; I do not wish you to believe that Misplaced Pages is stifling encyclopedic information. Arbitrarily0  00:45, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Dear Arbitrarily0 I took some time to research the topic from different angles: in terms of notability criteria I am convinced that cTrader meets the criteria because it is a trading platform for forex industry with the current client base (brokers) of over 40 companies and the number and as I understand is constantly expanding- so FxPro is one on these 40+ brokers, maybe it will be very biased to present cTrader by expanding the section on FxPro's page; they set new industry standards in the so-far monopolistic trading industry (where previously mainly operated Metatrader). I have checked the websites of their most notable clients although not all are presented in Misplaced Pages - they do indeed actively offer trading through cTrader's platform. By the number of players in the industry the company has acquired market share in excess of 10 per cent and that is only in the first year.

In terms of secondary resources - they have adequate press coverage for a new company; if you agree that they deserve to have a page I will start collecting more info from secondary sources and drafting a wiki-page for them.

http://forexmagnates.com/spotware-systems-duo-andrey-pavlov-and-ilya-holeu-awarded-fxstreet-com-person-of-the-year-2012/

http://www.forexcrunch.com/ctrader-launches-open-api/

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/spotware-systems-announce-integration-of-topfx-with-ctrader-and-calgo-platforms-158552925.html

Please let me know your experienced outlook on this issue. Many thanks. Olga 193.92.136.72 (talk) 19:09, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi again Olga. I think the most appropriate way to continue would be to add any noteworthy information about cTrader (information that is reliable sourced) to the page FxPro#cTrader. Note that coverage from major news sources is preferred over press releases. If the information on cTrader begins to dominate the FxPro page, then it may be worth considering splitting cTrader into its own article, but as it stands the article seems balanced. Please continue to feel comfortable in asking me any questions. Best regards, Arbitrarily0  00:36, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	You probably didn't see my reward board post; you were probably just doing your job. But nevertheless, you've made a significant contribution toward clearing the (suddenly not so frightening) RM backlog. Thanks! --BDD (talk) 15:00, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks BDD! I am honored and surprised. Take care mate, Arbitrarily0  01:41, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Regarding next week's meeting

Is there anything I should prepare before next week's meeting? I just want to make sure I come as prepared as I can. Thanks and have a great weekend! Michael Barera (talk) 01:01, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

A very interesting question. Are you speaking of this "self-analysis" meeting? I have realized that that is a very scary title. Perhaps next meeting we should simply talk and see if there is anything we should do to close out the year (end of year event, elections, etc), but regardless, it will be simple and assuredly disorganized. Bring any ideas you like, but I imagine we are still in the meeting about meeting stages. Arbitrarily0  01:48, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Sounds good: bring on the metameeting! Michael Barera (talk) 04:33, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

A good meeting indeed. Arbitrarily0  00:37, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Invitation to join WikiProject Admin Nominators

Hello. You are invited to join WikiProject Admin Nominators, a project which aims to support editors interested in nominating at Requests for Adminship. We hope that you will join and help to shape the new project. AutomaticStrikeout (T • C • Sign AAPT) 23:58, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the invitation, AutomaticStrikeout. I will attempt to keep up to date with this, but unfortunately I am limited in time. My moral support to you, and please stop by at any time. Arbitrarily0  00:40, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Mapping the Global Economy

Hi Arbitrarily0, I am looking for volunteers to re-create the link below for all 196 countries. http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States The goal of this project is to map out the global economy. Here is the project page https://meta.wikimedia.org/Global_Economic_Map — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcnabber091 (talk • contribs) 03:49, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Greetings Mcnabber091. Thanks for your passionate interest in a new WikiProject. Regrettably I have little to offer in this subject area, but best of luck to you! Arbitrarily0  00:43, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Khoren Oganesian move

Hello. You closed the discussion as denied, but I wanted to point out that Khoren Hovhannisyan was born and has always lived in Armenia. That means he speaks the Eastern dialect. To put it in simple terms:

Oganesian = Western dialect

Hovhannisyan = Eastern dialect

Both are pronounced the same way. Even though the discussion didn't lean that way, I don't think this can really be debated because it comes down to the fact Hovhannisyan used the Eastern dialect. Will you please move the page anyway? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 00:53, 13 April 2013 (UTC)