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		The Original Barnstar
		I hereby award The Original Barnstar to Keithbob for particularly fine and diligent editing at the Stock market bottom article. Keep up the good work. :) — neuro 12:22, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

		Civility Award
		Thanks for your civility in our discussion of the John Mayer article.Esprit15d • talk • contribs 20:12, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

		The Good Friend Award
		The Good Friend Award is greatly and enormously appreciated, but only accepted if it is shared, because it is people like you who are the driving force behind a constructive wikipedia! :) Robster1983 (talk) 16:27, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

John Butler and, indeed, wikipedia is better now. Thank you for your calm, mature and professional approach to a possibly difficult situation. I hope we can collaborate on another article one day.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 19:18, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Shaidar cuebiyar has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. You can Spread the "WikiLove" by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

Yes, it was a great (logical, needed) change; I'm glad you were there w/ experience in this type thing to do correctly, etc. (I didn't have confidence yet for so major a change.) With lots of eyes on the Trump article, and no one protesting, it seems logic/reasonability is universal? Yet few will act!? Appreciatively, Ihardlythinkso (talk) 15:47, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		For working Bridgewater Associates into a Good Article. Congratulations! AstroCog (talk) 15:27, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

	The Original Barnstar
	You do great work! I'm enjoying learning from you. Thank you. Jojopsychicpower (talk) 04:07, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

	the Civility Barnstar
	For defending civility even when it is not the most popular choice. ~ GabeMc 07:26, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

		The Cleanup Barnstar
		For your excellent work in cleaning up and modifying Harry Browne. JayJasper (talk) 18:50, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Keithbob! Thanks for your sound and detailed answer about how to deal with a potentially POV-pushing citation process. You really helped the Teahouse guest to seek out more information and to discuss the issue before stepping into an edit war or contentious dynamic. That was great; thanks for doing it! Ocaasi 17:42, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

	Great Answer Badge
	Awarded to those who have given a great answer on the Teahouse Question Forum. A good answer is one that fits in with the Teahouse expectations of proper conduct: polite, patient, simple, relies on explanations not links, and leaves a talkback notification. Earn more badges at: Teahouse Badges

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	Can both of us become authors of the article together, because you're help is more than what I've done for the article... The Wikimon (talk) 16:03, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Welcome

It's a brand new year. Let's have a tea and talk about it :-) -- — Keithbob • Talk • 20:47, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Apologies for obscenity

Dear Keithbob,
It was not my intention to insult you (or anyone) with the section title you considered sexist. It may be that, since my primary language is Spanish, I am not as affected by these "vulgar" terms in English as a native English speaker. For me, it is simply another word. I do, however, offer my apologies for being inadvertently insensitive to other editors. Best wishes.--MarshalN20 | 18:51, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Marshal, WP has a very low level of female editors and when we use crude and sexist language, especially in a formal setting such as ArbCom, it creates an environment that says: Women are not welcome here. However, I appreciate and accept your sincere apology and it is kind of you to post here on my page. Thank you. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 21:06, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Point understood, and thank you for teaching me something new. I will not commit the same mistake again. Regards.--MarshalN20 | 00:23, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Pattie Boyd

Well, Harrison passed FAC so anytime you want me to start working on Boyd, I am at your service. I will have at least two other projects going, but its nothing that should get in the way of my assistance at Boyd. Let me know which particular areas that you would like me to focus on. Cheers! GabeMc 22:03, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

This sounds great, I'll post a note on your page. thanks -- — Keithbob • Talk • 13:18, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Talk Pages

I edited (and ideally would remove) that section you mentioned because it was an already-resolved topic and came across as unnecessary clutter for your archives. From time to time, I've seen others delete things from talk pages, which gave me the impression that some things are just simply going to get removed sooner or later. It was my error for not looking up how discouraged that can be and am sorry. Thesomeone987 (talk) 02:56, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi and thanks for posting here. I am in the habit, as are most WP editors, of preserving/archiving their talk pages exactly the way they were written. I'm not sure I understand why this old post of yours which is in my archive that almost no one will ever see is of so much concern. If you could explain further so I can understand your concern then maybe we can find a solution. Also I'd like to point out that even if I was to remove that comment for you, it would still be available to anyone in my talk page History (both its placement and its removal attempts). So for these reasons I'm confused. Maybe you can explain. Best, -- — Keithbob • Talk • 15:31, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Only so your page doesn't take up so much space, and didn't seem necessary to keep. That is all, your choice. Thesomeone987 (talk) 13:32, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

nikah mutah

I have tried to give the nikah mutah article some balance and also did source it. the allegation that it was not sources is false. i therefor do not understand why a biased article is been reverted to. please do explain as wiki is supposed to be looking for progressive developing an informed database. This way of rejecting new developed version is not fair. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hasina123 (talk • contribs) 22:28, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. In this edit of yours, (which I reversed), you had added a lot of content almost all of which was not sourced and appeared to be personal opinion. The addition of unsourced material has become problematic on this article and that's why all changes are being reviewed before they are published. You can try again, and this time just add info to one paragraph only and provide a reliable source for that info, that I can verify. Then I, or someone else, may approve your addition. And if they/we do, then try another sentence/paragraph. Take it slow and easy and be thorough with your sourcing.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 22:42, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for guidance

This was very useful and I will embark on the process you suggested cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hasina123 (talk • contribs) 13:55, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

You are welcome! :-) -- — Keithbob • Talk • 15:25, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Old issues with improper copying

Hi, Keithbob. :) The origin of the concerning text in Maharishi Effect has been discovered, and unfortunately it was added by you, back before Willbeback spoke to you about the issue. (See article talk page for more.) Can you please help check and correct any other lingering copying issues that may have been carried over to the article in your split? We need to be sure that any remaining copied content is either turned into a properly annotated quotation or rewritten in original language. It would be good idea also to check the source article, TM-Sidhi program, to make sure that any lingering content there is cleaned up. --Moonriddengirl 11:46, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Moonriddengirl, Thanks for the message. That edit was clearly a mistake on my part. One I made during my first several months of editing. But even as a newbie I'm sure that I had intended to summarize that content after pasting in the article. I think what happened is that I looked at the time and was late for very work or something and ran out the door and forgot to come back to this WP entry. However, even though it was unintentional, still, I take responsibility for the error and will certainly go back and check my edits on both the Maharishi Effect and TM-Sidhi article, as you have suggested, and make sure there isn't something else that needs correcting. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Best,-- — Keithbob • Talk • 13:28, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

I've checked through all of my edits on the TM-Sidhi program from 2009 to the present and though there were one or two other edits that were of some concern, none of the content from those edits is present in the current versions of TM-Sidhi program or Maharishi Effect articles. However, if you or anyone else becomes aware of anything that I may have missed, please let me know so I can fix them. Thanks again, -- — Keithbob • Talk • 16:08, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

This week, I've reviewed my entire list of contributions for the years 2008, 2009 and 2013 and made corrections as needed. I plan to review my 2010, 2011 and 2012 edits in the coming weeks and months as well in case there is any improvements that can be made. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 22:18, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Request for uninvolved 3rd party to comment.

Hello. I am requesting your opinions at Talk:Thomas Savage (died 1611)#Move and add to Thomas Savage as a third party to a discussion which I feel is nearing an impasse. I feel confident that if you chose to participate, your comments ideas and suggestions will be neutral and non-biased in favor or against either of the currently involved participants. If you do not wish to participate, I understand and respect your wishes. Thank you. Technical 13 (talk) 19:41, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Done -- — Keithbob • Talk • 12:52, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! :)

I just hope you got the right Ed. :) Cheers! Irondome (talk) 00:28, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome and thanks for maintaining a sense of humor. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 12:53, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Eleutherococcus senticosus

Please do not accept the edits from the IP that has been persistently vandalizing the Eleutherococcus senticosus page for months. It has been trying to add the same sentence with a fake source about fringe alternative medicine. It violates WP:MEDRS. Thank you. MidnightRequestLine (talk) 14:08, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, I'll keep an eye our for it. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 14:21, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. We have been working hard to minimize the vandalism for a long time. Only in the past few days did they add the page protection. I've never seen that page protection scheme before so I'm still figuring that out. We appreciate the help! MidnightRequestLine (talk) 14:26, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 14:35, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

List of serial killers in the United States

The reason the article was semi-protected in the first place was to prevent IP editors from adding Gosnell to the list, since mentioning him by name on that page violates WP: BLP (because he hasn't been convicted yet). FiredanceThroughTheNight (talk) 18:39, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

OK, good to know. But keep in mind that the purpose of the Reviewer is "intended as a quick check to ensure edits don't contain vandalism, violations of the policy on living people, copyright violations, or other obviously inappropriate content."..... "Reviewers are not taking responsibility for the correctness of edits they accept" and their work is not a replacement for the activities of editors who are watching and/or editing the page and I review each pending change carefully, looking at the context of the edit, a quick look at the IP's edit history, and the posted reason for the pending change protection which is usually just a few words like: "vandalism" or "BLP violations". "Reviewers are not expected to subject experts" or keep up on all the details of the scores of articles under pending change protection. There will still be some clean up work needed by local editors. At the same time I appreciate you letting me know about Gosnell and I will keep an eye out for that. Cheers! -- — Keithbob • Talk • 14:03, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Your request for rollback

Hi Keithbob. After reviewing your request for rollback, I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

• Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
• Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
• Rollback should never be used to edit war.
• If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
• Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Misplaced Pages:New admin school/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! INeverCry 23:12, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

MarkMonitor

Hi Keithbob. I was wondering if I could persuade you to review my Request Edit here. I thought it would be up your alley, because I added a substantially UNDUE and defensively-written Controversy section to the article myself one year ago, before you beat WP:Criticism into me. In addition to general improvements and updating, I'm cleaning up after my prior mistake of creating a Controversy section. As I usually do, I've pointed out in the request the areas where my COI is most relevant. CorporateM (Talk) 14:25, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

OK, I've commented on the talk page. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 16:59, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

hi

I am a "he" ... :-) — Ched :  ?  20:18, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Ched. I once seriously offended a female editor by assuming that she was male. So I've been trying ever since to not step in that hole again. I appreciate the clarification :-) -- — Keithbob • Talk • 20:36, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

No problem, the name "Ched" is not common - and if you're interested, I'd even explain it in email. (real life identification) — Ched :  ?  20:38, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Ched is a good name and thank you for standing up to Fladrif and taking action. It was long overdue. Best, -- — Keithbob • Talk • 02:09, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

ANI

Next time I won't compile any evidence as I did here. I'll just hand it off to you. Great job.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:48, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Having been through two ArbComs with Fladrif I am well acquainted with his edit style and edit history and it has been easier for me than it would be for most others, to assemble diffs for this ANI. But WP is a community and everyone's participation is needed and valuable and I'm grateful for your contributions. Thanks for your help and support. Cheers, -- — Keithbob • Talk • 02:06, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Zad68 14:36, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Ewj001 (talk) 02:09, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Alleged vandalism

Hi, Keith. You reported Herman0402 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) at AVI for "Ongoing, repeated and obvious vandalism of sports stats". I checked his four most recent edits , , , and all of those agree with the official stats pages at mlb.mlb.com linked from those articles. I've undone your reverts on those four articles and I suggest you look back over your other reverts of Herman0402's edits and restore any others that were correct. Dricherby (talk) 21:45, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Sure, where can I find stats that will assure me that the ones entered by Herman0402 are correct? What are you using as a resource? Thanks. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 01:53, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

The External Links section of each of the articles has a link to several stats sites. I checked those four edits against the official MLB Stats, which are the first link. I think Herman0402 was just updating the stats for the latest game. Note that the baseball season seems to involve a huge number of games (they seem to play most nights) so updates to these pages may be very frequent. The MLB pages include a list of results of recent games played (to the right of the player photograph) so you can see if the stats have changed since Herman0402 updated. Dricherby (talk) 08:09, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	Thanks for your efforts for dealing with that dispute with Fladrif at ANI back in April. Keep up the good work, as usual! Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:41, 8 May 2013 (UTC)