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User:Writ Keeper/Cathreim Thoirdhealbhaigh

Writ Keeper, a separate section for your next masterpiece. I merged the two authors: odd, someone placed a merge tag on them in December 2012 but didn't start a merge discussion. I suppose they could have just grabbed the bull by the horns... Anyway, I ran into something fun: in a 1919 article from JEGP, "In the Cathreim Thoirdhealbhaigh, Triumphs of Torlough, written about 1350 by Seean MacCraith, hereditary historion of the O'Briens..." So you need to figure out, O'Brien or Mac Craith. Or both? I moved him to John Macrory Magrath, BTW, since that's the name with more hits in Google Books. If you or anyone disagrees we can have a proper merge discussion. Toodles, Drmies (talk) 22:29, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't disagree, as I believe the one is just the Anglicized version of the other ("MAGRATH, JOHN MACRORY, in Irish Eoghan MacRuadhri MacCraith,..."; I don't know how Sean enters into it, but maybe Sean became John just through a phonetic false friend); I felt that the other name sounded more "authentic" (whatever that's worth), but you're right in that we should generally go by what the sources report, and that's probably as good a measure as any. The clan name is a more interesting question; I've already seen "Dal Cais" in addition to "MacCraith", so who can tell. Another issue is that one source I'm using (the one that discusses the mention of banshees in most depth) says that it was written around 1350, when most other sources seem to be citing closer to 1450, though I'm willing to chalk that up to a simple typographical error (or maybe the whole "14th century is 1300s" thing) and just go with 1450 anyway, since it seems to be more attested. As I say, there's a long way to go on this yet. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 23:14, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Wait a second, I think you're right; I think I misread the sources. I think "O'Brien" is the Anglicized version of "Uí Bhriain", which makes a lot of sense; I think the Mac Craiths were a separate family that was allied (or something) with the O'Briens, and it was for the O'Briens that SeanJohn (no, not seanjohn, the first one) was an official historian. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 23:22, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Feed the kitty

Warrington has given you a kitten/abandoned kitty! Kittens promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Your lion must be fed three times a day and will be your faithful companion forever!

• Odd to find a starving kitty in Limburg, which I always thought of as a land of plenty. Drmies (talk) 13:59, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Isn't it? Imaginary place of extreme luxury should provide comforts and pleasures for everyone. Hard fate...

Have you ever heard the Carmina Burana (Orff),

story of the land of Cockaigne. In CB 222 the abbas Cucaniensis, or Abbot of Cockaigne, is said to have presided over a group of dice players *

• Holy moly Warrington, that's music with big balls. Drmies (talk) 18:24, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
• Yessssssss! ...Carmina Burana (Orff) is it. You should try to find the whole thing somewhere, Carmina Burana is een niet-middeleeuwse compositie in geheel eigen stijl.Orff selecteerde in 1935 een aantal liederen uit de middeleeuwse Carmina Burana en schreef er zijn eigen muziek bij. Naast de muziek schreef hij ook een lichtprogramma. De ondertitel was dan ook: Profane liederen gezongen door solisten en koor, begeleid door instrumenten en magische beelden.

Orff schreef het stuk origineel voor solisten, koor, twee vleugels en slagwerk. Later herschreef hij de instrumentatie van Carmina Burana naar één voor een geheel symfonieorkest. Op 8 juni 1937 was de wereldpremière in de opera van Frankfurt. Warrington10 May 2013

Kennedy Family Vandalism

Dude lololol you just undid my fix to it, read what I put on the talk page, and check the difference between your version and my undo. He keeps replacing the one family member that has 3 references showing her name as "Colton" and replacing it with 1 that states her name as both "Colton" and "Coliton" and adding the Coliton version with only one reference. The person either doesn't understand or is purposelly vandalising the article, but I can't tell. I am sorry I added the protection template, that was for me to try to get them to stop while my request for page protection was in process on the requests for article protection page. I didn't know what else to do. Please thoroughly read the Kennedy family talk page and view the difference I mentioned and check the difference in my undo of your undoing of me fixing it. Thank you. 71.114.165.160 (talk) 14:44, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Son of a gun, my request for page protection was added before I could undo your removing of the fix, please go review it and fix it with the properly cited content, thank you. 71.114.165.160 (talk) 14:46, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

• Sorry, but I'm an administrator and I know nothing about content. I do know WP:VANDAL, and I have seen no evidence that what you were reverting was vandalism. You started a thread on the talk page; great. You may file an edit request there, after some input from other editors maybe. Drmies (talk) 15:24, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Ok thanks for your input, and thanks for informing me of Misplaced Pages's user structure, I was under the impression regarding administrators. Also to mention I did not realize that book stated wikipedia, but even if you check this talk page up above she was in the original list when the article was created as well, and all other references of her point to "Claire Colton" and that tells me "Claire Coliton" is a typo. As you can see on google Claire Coliton and Burke/Kennedy do not yield google results where as Claire Colton and Burke/Kennedy in fact yield many. Thanks for your input. 71.114.165.160 (talk) 15:53, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
    • I'm kidding: I know a bit about content, but not regarding this article. Good luck with it; I've just left one more note on the article talk page. Drmies (talk) 16:56, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Why did you remove a protection tag?

I've requested a protection and the page clearly needs it --Loginnigol (talk) 14:48, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

• I hate to say it but DUH, it wasn't protected yet when you placed the template on it. That's not your call to make, to pre-emptively tag a page. It is protected now and I blocked the two most recent trolls. Drmies (talk) 14:58, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Right, but you added the protected icon when the article was not actually protected yet. Cart-before-horse kinda thing (✉→BWilkins←✎) 14:58, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

By the way, Loginnigol, more comments like this could lead to a block for WP:NPA (✉→BWilkins←✎) 15:00, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Who is Lamedes Domugnez Lolno? Hafspajen (talk) 15:06, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Well, I'd hate to sink into NPA territory myself, but Loginnigol has a point: look at this thread; you'll find the haha funny name used all over that forum. Drmies (talk) 15:10, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Hafspajen :):)(talk) 15:57, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

6 months? Isn't one or two month protection sufficient (at first at least)? Or is 6m some sort of standard minimum? --Loginnigol (talk) 15:37, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

No, there is no minimum. That thread on that website went back a couple of years. If it's too long, you can ask for unprotection at the same place where you asked for protection. Drmies (talk) 16:55, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Oh OK I get it. Thanks for the heads up. Forgot about Unprotection. I guess the timeframe is just indication of when the whole thing expires automatically or whatever other way --Loginnigol (talk) 17:30, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Motto of the Day

Good to remember... Now this thing will change every day, I suppose. Warrington (talk) 18:15, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Racism

I don't like how you closed that discussion once I presented a blatantly racist material the editor had engaged in, using the terms 'nigger' and 'kike' because someone edited homosexual into a 'gay' article referring to same sex people. Looks like you saw that it was blatantly racist and decided to end the discussion. May I ask why you chose to close the discussion after I presented his grossly racist comment?! It was an abuse of power! First of all, the user was completely and totally disrespectful to begin with and not only that when I found evidence of blatant racism, you took it upon yourself to immediately close the discussion. AmericanDad86 (talk) 02:43, 11 May 2013 (UTC)