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	== Swiss American nationality ==

	Einstein asked his father for the Swiss nationality when ha was very young because he was "apatrid". He has kept it all his life. I don't understand why it doesn't appear clearly in the introduction of this article. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:28, 14 March 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:Einstein obtained Swiss citizenship in 1901 when he was 21, and there was no question of asking his father for permission. The information about this is in the article at the appropriate place. ] (]) 21:13, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

	I have a question about this. The "Citizenship" section of the <nowiki>{{infobox}}</nowiki> contains an explicit entry for "]", and there are two ranges of years listed for "]": "(1896–1901; 1933–1940)". The first one sounds right to me, but the second one ("1933–1940") does not seem consistent with the entry for "]" going all the way from 1901 to 1955. Perhaps that entry for "] (1901–1955)" was added later? (and perhaps someone forgot to "update" the entry for "]"?) Just an idea... --] (]) 17:59, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

	:Well spotted. The "Stateless" entry 1933-1940 is surely erroneous, as he never gave up his Swiss citizenship. It should be deleted.

	:Einstein's possession of Swiss citizenship in 1933 after he had renounced his German citizenship is shown here (though for some reason the photograph itself no longer shows up on the webpage).
	:http://www.immigrationmatters.co.uk/albert-einsteins-1933-uk-immigration-landing-card-found-but-would-he-have-been-allowed-entry-in-2011.html
	:] (]) 19:14, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

	::'''Thank you''' for answering that question, AND for fixing the dates in the "infobox" (very promptly! I might add). :-)

	::You are correct that there is a problem at in regard to the photo of the landing card. However, I did a little bit of snooping around, and it appears that the photo of the landing card does still exist on a web site that is later linked to... -- but at a different URL. I now think that the explicit link from http://www.immigrationmatters.co.uk/albert-einsteins-1933-uk-immigration-landing-card-found-but-would-he-have-been-allowed-entry-in-2011.html to (the '''older''' URL?) : http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/einstein (with a prefix or "header" saying "More details of the landing card:") should instead point to (the '''newer''' URL) : http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/maritime/visit/floor-plan/seized/objects/einstein/ . Perhaps the problem with the photo showing up, can also be remedied by simply causing some "image" tag, to ''also'' point to the newer URL! (but the image's new URL is: http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/maritime/visit/floor-plan/seized/graphics/large/einstein-landing-card.jpg -- which is a '''different''' new URL, from the one for the web page that "contains" the photo of the landing card.) (right?)

	::I might be a little bit confused here, myself. The above explanation assumes that there is an "image" tag, somewhere, that points to "some" older URL, and that just did not get updated when the change (some kind of web-address change) occurred -- causing the displaying of the photo to stop working.

	::In reality, there are probably (at least!) 2 changes needed, to the HTML for . "One": the ] that points to the '''older''' URL, needs to be updated to point to the '''newer''' URL; and "two": the URL in the image tag, that is broken, probably needs to be updated, to point instead to .

	::(See?) Now, since the web site http://www.immigrationmatters.co.uk/ is probably not a wiki, -- (and I am not suggesting that it should be), -- we probably cannot edit it ourselves. But maybe if someone is willing to contact the website maintainer person, for that web site, then perhaps they would '''consider''' updating the HTML to resume showing the photo correctly -- especially if it turns out that the fix can be applied fairly simply, such as by using an updated URL, in an "image" tag. I hope so. --] (]) 11:01, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

	:::Thanks for tracking down the photo of Einstein's Landing Card for May 1933 confirming he had retained his Swiss citizenship at that time: ] (]) 11:25, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

	== Bruria ==

	Bruria Kaufman is said to be a "renowned" physicist. Peacock wording could be mentioned. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 14:10, 10 April 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:This is in "Emigration to U.S. in 1933".

	== Quotes ==		== Quotes ==

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Quotes

Why have you not added a quote section in the page?! Rehty77 (talk) 07:08, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

That is the function of Wikiquote. Sean.hoyland - talk 09:53, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

On the subject of Einstein quotes on God and religion, the most complete compendium can be found in this list of quotes "Einstein the atheist on religion and God" by Coel Hellier, a Professor of Astrophysics at Keele University in the UK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ROO BOOKAROO (talk • contribs) 21:15, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Your link to that list was deleted from the article, however, because Misplaced Pages avoids external links to blogs. —teb728 t c 01:39, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Myths section?

Due to the large volume of false stories attributed to Einstein, do you think either a myths section or page would be appropriate. Off the top of my head I can think of several myths ex: left handedness, bad student stories, the "Einstein disproves atheist professor" story. Relevant or not? --76.118.78.127 (talk) 16:11, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

I agree this would be appropriate, as long as there's a source. NaturaNaturans (talk) 08:00, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Dyxlxia

He had it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.221.4.223 (talk) 23:54, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Although the claim that Einstein was dyslexic can be found on many websites (dyslexia organisations often list him among famous dyslexics), there is not a scrap of evidence that he was. I once tried to track down the origins of the story and found "Dyslexia: To Read or Not To Read", Essays of an Information Scientist, 10 March 1980: "A psychiatrist Lloyd Thompson… also suggests that Einstein may have been dyslexic, though Einstein's biographer, Ronald W. Clark, disagrees." So the original source is nothing but a suggestion from a psychiatrist: Thompson, L. J., "Language disability in men of eminence", Bull. Orton Soc. 19:113-20, 1969.

See: Einstein's Alleged Handicaps: The Legend of the Dull-Witted Child Who Grew Up to Be a Genius

"The strongest argument that Einstein was not dyslexic is that he mastered the German language perfectly and his ability to express himself in writing and speech showed high skills of comprehension, discrimination and precision." Esterson (talk) 07:22, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

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there are two place that Max Planck's name needs to be linked into his page.

Photons and energy quanta & Theory of relativity and E = mc²

108.131.15.199 (talk) 03:16, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Partly done: Moved link to first mention (in "Theory of relativity and E = mc²") from two linked mentions later in article. Fat&Happy (talk) 04:18, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Pronunciation of Einstein's name

Please remove "pron.: /ˈælbərt ˈaɪnstaɪn/" from the article. There is only one correct way to pronounce Albert Einstein's name and it is "German: ". Anything else is simply ignorance toward the pronunciation of a person's name. I do not think Misplaced Pages should endorse such ignorance, but instead educate about the correct one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.233.174.49 (talk) 11:37, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

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