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==Meyerbeer== ==Meyerbeer==
Hi there! Thanks for your edits in the Meyerbeer and Robert articles - but you need to be careful, when making these,that you can verify them by citations (see ]). Where they are just your own opinions then they fall to be deleted (see ]). Please add appropriate citations if you are able. You should also be careful not to delete material which is properly sourced. As both these articles qualify at present as Good Articles (see ]) it's particularly importnat to ensure that they meet Misplaced Pages standards. Best regards, and thanks for your interest, --] (]) 18:59, 21 May 2013 (UTC) Hi there! Thanks for your edits in the Meyerbeer and Robert articles - but you need to be careful, when making these,that you can verify them by citations (see ]). Where they are just your own opinions then they fall to be deleted (see ]). Please add appropriate citations if you are able. You should also be careful not to delete material which is properly sourced. As both these articles qualify at present as Good Articles (see ]) it's particularly importnat to ensure that they meet Misplaced Pages standards. Best regards, and thanks for your interest, --] (]) 18:59, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi! I have been careful to write corrections in the Meyerbeer, Lully and other articles only to see that they are immediately deleted. Just because something isn't sourced, doesn't mean that it isn't valid -- this is a bogus argument. I have thought deeply and read a lot about these composers. On the other hand, people have said things in print about Meyerbeer in particular that are either simply not true or else mere statements of opinion. I could say these things (for instance that Meyerbeer isn't as good as Wagner) and put a source to them -- that doesn't make it true. I don't think when you write a bio of someone you should put negative things in it, unless they are provable things. No opinion about the worth of someone's music is ipso facto provable. No matter how many famous musicologists say something like that, doesn't make it meaningful. For instance, Joseph Kerman, said French opera was spectacular because the word they use in French is le spectacle. This is a false statement. Spectacle, or lo spettacolo in Italian, refers to any theatrical production, Shakespeare, anybody. It has nothing to do with spectacular, it is derived analogously to theatre, from the word for "seeing something". Thus the mere fact that a famous musicologist said it doesn't make it true.

You shouldn't put anything in wikipedia -- if you want to have standards -- that is drivel and tendentious. And if that's the way you want to run wikipedia I don't want any part of it. It's a form of stupid bullying.

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Meyerbeer

Hi there! Thanks for your edits in the Meyerbeer and Robert articles - but you need to be careful, when making these,that you can verify them by citations (see WP:CITE). Where they are just your own opinions then they fall to be deleted (see WP:OR). Please add appropriate citations if you are able. You should also be careful not to delete material which is properly sourced. As both these articles qualify at present as Good Articles (see WP:GA) it's particularly importnat to ensure that they meet Misplaced Pages standards. Best regards, and thanks for your interest, --Smerus (talk) 18:59, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi! I have been careful to write corrections in the Meyerbeer, Lully and other articles only to see that they are immediately deleted. Just because something isn't sourced, doesn't mean that it isn't valid -- this is a bogus argument. I have thought deeply and read a lot about these composers. On the other hand, people have said things in print about Meyerbeer in particular that are either simply not true or else mere statements of opinion. I could say these things (for instance that Meyerbeer isn't as good as Wagner) and put a source to them -- that doesn't make it true. I don't think when you write a bio of someone you should put negative things in it, unless they are provable things. No opinion about the worth of someone's music is ipso facto provable. No matter how many famous musicologists say something like that, doesn't make it meaningful. For instance, Joseph Kerman, said French opera was spectacular because the word they use in French is le spectacle. This is a false statement. Spectacle, or lo spettacolo in Italian, refers to any theatrical production, Shakespeare, anybody. It has nothing to do with spectacular, it is derived analogously to theatre, from the word for "seeing something". Thus the mere fact that a famous musicologist said it doesn't make it true.

You shouldn't put anything in wikipedia -- if you want to have standards -- that is drivel and tendentious. And if that's the way you want to run wikipedia I don't want any part of it. It's a form of stupid bullying.

Meyerbeer13 (talk) 05:39, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

WP:CENSOR

Please stop. Misplaced Pages is not censored. Any further changes which have the effect of censoring an article will be regarded as vandalism. If you continue in this manner, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Toccata quarta (talk) 04:07, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

WP:V

Information icon Please do not add or change content without verifying it by citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Misplaced Pages:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Toccata quarta (talk) 04:07, 24 May 2013 (UTC)