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Please, tell your opinion. --Norden1990 (talk) 11:12, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

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Deletion

Szia! Kaphatnék tőled segítséget ez ügyben? Meg vannak a források, rájuk lehet keresni, nem minden esetben magyarul, de ott vannak. Kérlek szavazz ellene. Doncsecz 12:26, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Köszi! Doncsecz 12:46, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

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Válasz

Mikor leírtam az ominózus mondatokat, már tudtam, hogy ebből nem fog jó kisülni, de egyszerűen nem tudtam megállni, ismerve Omen szerkesztéseit itt a Wikipedián. Volt pár konfliktusom vele az elmúlt egy-két év folyamán. Ezentúl igyekszem meghúzni magam és nem belebonyolódni feleslegesen konfliktusokba. A 20-21. századi politikusok megírásával úgy is el leszek egy darabig. --Norden1990 (talk) 20:33, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Nem tervezed a közeljövőben, hogy az országbíróról szóló szócikket legalább olyan szintre kibővíted, mint az erdélyi vajdáét? :) --Norden1990 (talk) 21:16, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Medieval Forteresses in Hungary

Until the 12th century, stone-built and earth and timber castles were contemporary, but by the late 12th century the number of castles being built went into decline. This has been partly attributed to the higher cost of stone-built fortifications, and the obsolescence of timber and earthwork sites, which meant it was preferable to build in more durable stone. Although superseded by their stone successors, timber and earthwork castles were by no means useless.

Allen Brown 1976, p. 13 Allen Brown, Reginald (1976) , Allen Brown's English Castles, Woodbridge: The Boydell Press, ISBN 1-84383-069-8 Allen Brown 1976, pp. 108–109 Cathcart King 1988, pp. 29–30 Cathcart King, David James (1988), The Castle in England and Wales: an Interpretative History, London: Croom Helm, ISBN 0-918400-08-2

Mindenáron le akarod járatni magyarországot, primitív helynekNépnek beállítva, szerintem mivel magyarország egyik keletebbi balkáni elmaradott régiójából (alföld É-KGH) és gazdasági menekültként leesett a szájad angliától. Korrigáld a hülyeséget amit írtál a cikkbe. Na pá! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.0.57.92 (talk) 22:24, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Kedves névtelen. Ráhibásztál. Magyarország legeslegelmaradottabb részén, egy rózsabokorba jöttem a világra. Valóban gazdasági menekült vagyok, de nem angliában, hanem a spicbergákon, mivel még ahhoz is hüje voltam, hogy megnézzem, hova megy az a kamijon, aminek titkos reteszében el akartam jutni álmaim földjére. A szájam leesett, ahogy kiestem a kamionból, mivel még az én buta fejemnek is gyanús volt, hogyan kerül ennyi hó angliában. Azóta folyamatosan olyan cikkeket írok a vikipediában, amik torz képet igyekszenek mutatni magyarországról. Ne haragugy, de valahogy meg kell élni itt a hideg északon. Borsoka (talk) 02:55, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

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János Scheffler

I would like to ask for your opinion and help. I know you are well informed about Christianity. My problem is in connection with János Scheffler. Unfortunately we can not edit his article currently because of edit warring. According to Hungarian sources he was chosen to be bishop of Győr by Pope Pius XII on the 8 of November, 1945. Andrea Cassulo notified him about it in Romania on the 9 of April 1946. However, he chose to stay in Diocese of Satu Mare. Here is a quote in Hungarian :

1945. november 8-án XII. Piusz pápa kinevezi a győri egyházmegye püspökévé a vértanúhalált halt Apor Vilmos győri püspök helyére. Andrea Cassulo bukaresti nuncius 1946. április 9-én közli kinevezését. Kijelentette, hogy aláveti magát a pápa akaratának, ha áthelyezése a Szentatya kifejezett óhaja. Kérte azonban, hogy a nehéz helyzetre való tekintettel maradhasson szeretett egyházmegyéjében. A Szentszék elfogadta a kérelmét.

Or Péter Erdő said that:

1945. november 8-án XII. Piusz pápa áthelyezte őt a győri püspöki székre a vértanúhalált halt Boldog Apor Vilmos helyére. Ő azonban azt kérte, hogy szatmári püspök maradhasson szeretett papjai és hívei körében.

The next bishop in Győr (Karl Kalman Papp) after Vilmos Apor was in charge from May 3, 1946. How should we interpret János Scheffler's situation??? Did he fill the position !temporary! as bishop of Győr? Maybe my interpretation is incorrect, because he resigned in my opinion. He was elected, he was officially notified but he abdicated. Am I right or not? Fakirbakir (talk) 21:42, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer at talkpage of Scheffler! Fakirbakir (talk) 09:38, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Voivode of Transylvania

I've begun the GA review of Voivode of Transylvania. This article looks quite solid to me; so far, I only need your thoughts on some very small points. Drop by the talk page at your convenience. Thanks for your work on this one! -- Khazar2 (talk) 18:29, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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		For your contributions to bring Voivode of Transylvania to Good Article status. Thanks, and keep up the good work! -- Khazar2 (talk) 19:46, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Hungarian conquest of the Carpathian Basin review

Hello! I will be reviewing your article for GA status in the coming days. I am looking forward to analyzing and commenting on it; it is an intriguing topic. Thanks, dci | TALK 21:26, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

• Note: Comments on article content have been posted. dci | TALK 00:31, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Dear DCI, thank you for your hard work. For a couple of days I will be busy in my real life, so I can only reflect to your suggestions in next weekend. Borsoka (talk) 03:41, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Please take as much time as you need. I am in no hurry whatsoever and completely understand your situation. dci | TALK 23:09, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

maps

I would like to ask for your help. I have three different maps from Kniezsa and I would need some explanation. The first one is his well known map. As you know I used it as a source in order to design my own map. However I have another map by Kniezsa about the same theme and that is slightly different (p. 18 ( figure 6). Unfortunately I do not have the description of its legend. Those maps are almost identical however area of south Transylvania is dissimilar. The first map shows it as uninhabited area, but the second map uses a very soft pink colour to the same area. It may also mean "uninhabited area" but it is just my guess. Maybe the first map is a simplified version of the original map from the second edition book (2000), and the second one is the original map from 1938. I am unsure. My third map shows the ethnic situation in Transylvania a bit later I think the period is the second third of the 12th century. As you see south Transylvania is inhabited by Hungarians. We also can see bigger Pechenegs communities in Transylvania as opposed to the previous two maps. I know the Szeklers first moved presumably to south Transylvania from Bihar county, but I do not know whether the map shows that process or that means something else. I know the best would be to see the description of the second map's legend. I know Kniezsa drew lots of map and maybe he had slightly different results sometimes but it is a bit confusing for me. What do you think? Fakirbakir (talk) 12:25, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Time estimate

Out of curiosity, do you have any idea when you will have time for responses to what I've posted on the review for Hungarian conquest of the Carpathian Basin? Again, feel free to take as much time as is needed, but I would greatly appreciate some sort of estimate. dci | TALK 03:14, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Dear DCI, thank for your approach. I think I will respond in 48 hours. Borsoka (talk) 06:55, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

No problem. dci | TALK 19:48, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

• I'll be done with the review tonight and foresee no problems with passing. dci | TALK 17:32, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
• Y Passed, although please see this section of the talk page regarding one problem. If I'm somehow mistaken here, please let me know. dci | TALK 21:28, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Romania in the Early Middle Ages

Hi Borsoka, I'm beginning the copy-edit you requested to the above article at the GOCE Request page. Please feel free to contact me, or to correct or revert my edits if I'm doing something I shouldn't. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 02:50, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Done - feel free to contact me about any issues arising from the copy-edit. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 03:11, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

ANI

Hi Borsoka, you were mentioned on ANI by user Hortobagy. KœrteFa {ταλκ} 23:04, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Romani autonomy in Hungary

Let us make together a wonderful new article! Hortobagy (talk) 15:47, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

For the time being, I am pretty sure that you cannot "make a wonderful article". I suggest you should first read basic principles of WP, including WP:NOR and you should also learn how to cooperate with other editors instead of ignoring their proposals. Borsoka (talk) 15:52, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't think you can be mad on me when we can so well collaborate. Hortobagy (talk) 15:54, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

No, I am not "mad on you" that is why I suggest you should read basic principles of WP. Borsoka (talk) 15:58, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

History of Transylvania

Hi Borsoka, a question: user Raysdiet (Iaaasi?) has recently deleted the "History of Hungary" template from the "History of Transylvania" article writing that "this article is not listed on that template". He is right that the article is indeed not on the "History of Hungary" template. What do you think, should we include the "History of Transylvania" on the "History of Hungary" template, or is it enough if the "Principality of Transylvania" is there? Cheers, KœrteFa {ταλκ} 17:57, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

If you do so, you should also include the template on the articles History of Slovakia, History of Vojvodina and History of Croatia. Good luck for gaining consensus with Slovak, Serbian and Croatian users! Raysdiet (talk) 07:49, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

I think that that the History of Hungary template should refer to articles which concentrate on the history of present-day Hungary or to the history of one-time polities at least partly located in the territory of present-day Hungary. Transylvania is out of this scope. Borsoka (talk) 08:19, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, Borsoka, for your reply. I see your point, and think that you are right that the template "History of Hungary" should concentrate on the history of present-day Hungary. Still I am a bit in two minds about it, since the history of Transylvania seems closely connected to the history of Hugnary, even though the geographical region of Transylvania is not in Hungary. Anyway, I thank you for your valuable ideas, and if I still have doubts, I might raise the issue on the Talk page of the "History of Hungary" template. Cheers, KœrteFa {ταλκ} 21:58, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

No problem. Just one question: would you also add Croatia and Austria to the same template? Both territories' history is closely connected to Hungary. Borsoka (talk) 08:47, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, I see your point. On the other hand, Austria or Croatia were never integral parts of (the Kingdom of) Hungary, and they never had large Hungarian populations either. Therefore, it seems to me that the inclusion or exclusion of the History of Transylvania article from the History of Hungary template is a more complicated issue. Cheers, KœrteFa {ταλκ} 16:15, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Austria and Croatia are sovereign states while Transylvania is and has always been a geographical region. The only state that ever recognized it as an administrative entity was the Kingdom of Hungary. The History of Hungary template should be included on the History of Transylvania page. Raysdiet's above argument is not in logical connection with his deletion of the template: it's not a valid argument. Hungary played an important role in the history of present day Transylvania while it's not the case the other way around. --Rob.HUN (talk) 19:29, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

So do you recommend to also remove Principality of Transylvania and Eastern Hungarian Kingdom? Raysdiet (talk) 08:21, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

No, I do not recommend to remove them. Please read my above remarks again. For example, Debrecen (a town in present day Hungary) used to be a town in the Principality of Transylvania. Borsoka (talk) 08:25, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, you are right. My mistake. Thanks for your answer Raysdiet (talk) 08:27, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

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Blakumen

Nice work on this article.--Codrin.B (talk) 09:50, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Borsoka (talk) 10:04, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Re:Voivode of Transylvania

I am sure that the article will meet the requirements. I would like to congratulate for the expansion of Álmos, Grand Prince of the Magyars article, perhaps you should recommend it for the Did you know section. --Norden1990 (talk) 13:39, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

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	For the A-Team: Álmos, Árpád, Zoltán, Fajsz, Taksony and Géza. Very good job! :) Norden1990 (talk) 12:23, 7 June 2013 (UTC)