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I prefer to keep conversations in one place in order to make it easier to follow them. Therefore, if I have begun a conversation with you elsewhere, that is where I would prefer you reply and is probably where I will reply to you.

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Talkback

...William 21:03, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Project for RfA nominators

As one of the supporters of the proposal in the 2013 RfC on RfA reform, you are invited to join the new WikiProject for RfA nominators. Please come and help shape this initiative. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 18:54, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Your block of 178.61.14.156

See Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Imaginationaaaa, as it looks like this incompetent editor is wreaking havoc despite your block. Thanks. --Biker Biker (talk) 14:28, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Ouch.Not the absolute worst sockfarm I've ever seeen, and it looks like he made it pretty easy to find them anyway, but that is pretty bad. Looks like everyone is blocked now. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:04, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Beef

Re this edit summary, I think you'll find that, at least in Europe, the beef is here. --Dweller (talk) 15:48, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Yoink. I recall when I was a kid a grocery store chain was selling "imported beef" that turned out to be kangaroo meat. Me, I just can't help making cheap pop culture references from the 80's. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:19, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

AN

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. The thread is Unblocking Colton Cosmic. Yunshui 雲‍水 18:32, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Uh, ok, thanks for informing me of a thread I just commented in.... Beeblebrox (talk) 18:55, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Edit warring

I think you missed that he's IP hopping. Here are the edits: , , and here is where he claims ownership of all of the different IPs. MBisanz 17:42, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

• Yes, I did miss edits by another IP, probably because the blocking admin made no effort whatsoever to explain the basis of the block so that it would be clear in the likely event of an appeal. All he said was "edit warring". I looked at all the contribs from that IP and there was no edit warring. If there were multiple IPs involved that should have been noted in the block log and in the blocking notice, which was not even used. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:48, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Guilty of IP hopping, as I am the one who pointed out to you that I am all the other IPs on the RFBA. I use mobile and live on the international border, and IP hopping is a major problem; my IP changes in the middle of posts, uploads, downloads, e-mails. Very frustrating. But, I was not blocked for the IP hopping that I myself exposed to you.

And, the edit warring was not accurate. I requested a review, which the BN says that I am allowed to do, the "Anyone," there includes IPs. My request for review is not an issue that has been resolved and reverting and blocking me for requesting review was an abuse of power which I will take up another way.

Anyway, thanks Beeblebrox for looking at my unblock request. The blocking admin did block the other IPs also, but because of the IP hopping, I only requested one unblock as a matter of course. -68.107.137.178 (talk) 18:08, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Now at...Wikipedia_talk:Bureaucrats'_noticeboard#Review_request_reverted_and_user_blocked. MBisanz 18:42, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Took a glance, that seems more to be about long-term issues and this user's general attitude, not this recent block. In any event I gotta go so you all can figure it out without me. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:52, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

UAA

2991media (talk · contribs) has edited again after I declined his submission on the weekend. (see my userreport at

The thing is, there is nothing in their edits that points to an organization by that name, and a search for a company by that name comes up empty, so it is not a blatant violation. Discussing the matter with them is still an option though. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:59, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Question about Closing a Discussion

Hi. As someone who once closed a discussion I participated in, I have a question for you:

Someone just asked me to close a discussion. I myself participated in that discussion, though I just realized now that I forgot to sign my message from two weeks ago, and just added it in now. It's possible that the person who made this request of me did not know this, or that it doesn't matter. Is it permissible for a participant to close the discussion? I would imagine that an involved would have to be asked, but wanted to make sure. Can you tell me the criteria and procedures? Is there a policy or guideline page somewhere? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 17:29, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

As a general rule it is not advised to close discussions you participated in as it may appear that you are super voting or pushing your desired result. However, like any WP rule there are exceptions, such as discussions where the outcome is exceedingly obvious or where prolonged attempts to get an outside closer have failed. I have not looked at the discussion in question to see if it fits either of those cases but WP:ANRFC is another route, where you should get a completely uninvolved closer but it may take a few days or even weeks. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:41, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I was just directed to Misplaced Pages:Closing discussions. But thanks for pointing me to ANI: Request for closure as well. That should come in handy in the future. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 18:46, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Potential personal information posted

Beeble,

There are several revisions of the <a page> that appear to show personal contact information, names, e-mails, addresses and phone numbers. They were placed earlier today by <someone>. .There appears to be two revisions with this information. You may want to wipe these revisions from public view. Thanks, Ego White Tray (talk) 03:32, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

 Done. While I never mind doing such things I should mention that the preferred way of bringing it to the attention of the oversight team is off wiki, using the email process detailed at WP:RFO. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:46, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

TP access

This user's block indicates talk page access is also blocked but they are making inappropriate edits? My76Strat (talk) 00:26, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Looks like I selected it from the drop down menu but forgot to actually change the settings. Another admin has already fixed it, but thanks for letting me know. I had realized some time ago that this user was a bit... unhinged, but never saw anything like this from them before. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:54, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

A beer for you!

How did you grow up in Ohio and not eat Trail bolonga? Its the best all Ohio food. I guess the amish dont advertize well. There selling it in all Walmarts within 50 miles of Holmes county now you should try it. Uglyduckroger (talk) 15:35, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, I now live about 3,500 miles from Ohio, so I'll have to take your word for it. However our local meat processor does make a Lebanon bologna that has a nice smoky flavor. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:28, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Discussion notification

Hi. If you have the time, can you please take a look at Talk:Abuse#Problems and Template talk:Bullying#This reversion? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 19:13, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you! Teresaul (talk) 18:47, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Leepa Valley photos

Apologies for the lapse. I have deleted all the files I inadvertently created. I would be grateful if you could close the discussion on the articles for discussion page as they have now been listed for copyvio on the commons page.--File Éireann 21:41, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

These things happen. Looks like other users have already closed it up and taken other needed action. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:24, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you!

I just wanted to thank you for lifting the blockade so I was able to make the amendments in time! It was much appreciated!! (Also, sorry for the confusion, as you can see I am new to this :)) - Regards Teresaul

You're welcome, and don't worry about it. I am well aware of how utterly confusing Misplaced Pages can be, even very experienced users can have trouble navigating all the procedures and policies. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:26, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:23, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

For your consideration

Disruption, revisited, involving the same subject that you previously deleted, this time in the form of a copyright violation. Reverted . Cheers, JNW (talk) 02:47, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

I've revdeleted it and left them a note about it. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:48, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

User you had blocked

Can you take a look at Demographics of atheism, he's back and I don't want to look like I'm pushing a POV because I did substantial requested work on the lede and sorted the sections but his edits got mixed with mine. Is there a way to just revert them all and block the ip permanently? Lycurgus (talk) 17:06, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Permanent blocks of IPs are exceedingly rare because almost all IPs are re-assigned periodically. However, this one appears to be fairly static since it appears to be the same user doing this all along, so I have blocked it for one year. Refusal to discuss controversial changes is not something we can tolerate. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:37, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Question

Hi, I have a question about the policy for unprotecting pages. The page for Dota 2 has just been unprotected, because apparently people on a Reddit thread said they wanted to have a shot at the page, but they weren't registered before. Is that allowed, or is it in lieu with meatpuppetry? DarthBotto _talk•cont 18:14, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

It's an unusual situation, but so long as the idea is to improve the article it seems like a good thing. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:10, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

DeusM

This is to let you know I've re-created the DeusM page. I think you were the closing admin in a deletion debate back in 2011. It's a more substantial article now, with national news refs, and it's no longer an orphan, partly because of its link with Design News.WebHorizon (talk) 20:02, 26 April 2013 (UTC)WebHorizon

Hmm, my only real concern here is that I userfied the deleted article for you and it was obviously the basis of this new version, but it was recreated by cut/paste instead of using a page move, which causes problems as the efforts of the users who edited that previous version are no longer properly attributed to them. That can be fixed by a history merge, but I have only done that once before so I guess I'll have to review that procedure... Beeblebrox (talk) 21:47, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

 Done in the future please do use the "move" feature in such situations. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:08, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Much appreciated. I didn't know about "move."WebHorizon (talk) 20:23, 29 April 2013 (UTC)Webhorizon

Thanks for the unblock!

I got up the gumption to log in again, only, finally, to get the good news. I remain passionate about WP:PRESERVE (and I really wish more admins felt the same), but it's unlikely such a perfect storm will ever come up any time soon. Thanks again! -- Kendrick7 02:01, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back. Although i should note that ti was the comments by the blocking admin that persuaded me to unblock.

I'll be honest, I'm surprised he/she got unblocked. WorldTraveller101 16:28, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Apology

WorldTraveller101 has given you a cup of coffee, for taking the time to weather a dispute. Thanks for staying calm and civil! Coffee promotes WikiLove and hopefully this has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a coffee, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or someone putting up with some stick at this time. Enjoy!

Spread the lovely, warm, bitter goodness of coffee by adding {{subst:WikiCoffee}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

I would like to apologize for what happened and I am glad that we both seemed to have moved on. I would like you to know that you are probably the firmest administrator I've ever met, but that is such a good thing. Also, remember that I am on your team for fighting against trolls and vandals. Enjoy. Thanks. -Connor WorldTraveller101 13:44, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

I have developed somewhat of a reputation for being one of the tougher admins (contrary to the myth that we admins are a single hive mind and all think exactly the same).I do get the feeling this was a learning experience for you and I look forward to seeing lots more positive contributions in the future. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:44, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

I have a question. I really want to become an administrator, but how do you think I could prepare myself for adminship. I only have had this account for 6 weeks, but I have been editing Misplaced Pages since August 2010. Now, the other problem is that I have a fresh block for a stupid thing I did. How or what can I do to become an administrator. Also, I would like to do it so I can help Misplaced Pages, which is my primary goal. Thanks. WorldTraveller101 02:20, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

The best piece of advice I can give you is to be patient. Seeming over-eager to become an admin is a great way to convince a lot of people you should not be one. Most admin candidates who pass a request for adminshiphave been active editors for at least a year and have established a reputation for making good decisions and being familiar with policies, as well as making good contributions to discussions. Some specifics include:

• Admins are expected to be very well versed in deletion policies espescially the criteria for speedy deletion
• New page patrol is one area that you could try as it will test your ability to differentiate articles that qualify for speedy deletion from articles that, while they may have problems, cannot be speedy deleted.
• Participation in deletion discussions is another area where you can learn how deletion and consensus work.
• Warning and reporting vandals or username violations are activities that will bring you into regular contact with active admins so you can see how they handle them.
• Participation at WP:RFA will give you a good idea of what you will have to go through and the microscope you will be under when you do decide to run.
• When you feel like you are about half way there it is a good idea to ask for an editor review to get feedback on your progress so far.

Remember to assume good faith and don't bite the newcomers when doing any of these things. As you are aware Misplaced Pages can be a bit overwhelming with all its policies and guidelines, and sometimes the only reason a user runs afoul of them is because they just didn't know about them, not because they are malicious and trying to destroy Misplaced Pages, although those people are certainly out there as well. Once again, the most important thing you need to remember is to be patient, it takes time to acquire the knowledge and experience the community expects of an admin. I was here two years before my first try, and it failed pretty badly because of one single careless mistake I had made a few weeks earlier. The second one went much better because I showed that it was just a single screw up and not part of a pattern of making the same mistake. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:01, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

I almost always assume good faith. I do not when I have encountered a user who operated over ten sockpuppets...and I have bitten once or twice before, which I will watch.

• I will familiarize myself with deletion policies and criteria for speedy deletion and the whole deletion process.
• I am following your advice and am currently watching a request for adminship of Piotrus. I thought I gave a pretty good reason in my vote there.
• I am learning to use various anti-vandalism tools, such as CVU and I currently use Twinkle and I am very active in reporting vandals, as I have reported several in the past and I have read the username policy.

I believe that I should wait 10-12 months before becoming one. In the meantime, I will continue to be active and will learn CVU via training with Nerdfighter. I will also possibly try to earn some other rights such as Reviewer and possiblt Oversighter, Checkuser, or another important member, so I can help Misplaced Pages. Thanks. WorldTraveller101 22:25, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Oversight and checkuser are functionary positions appointed by the arbitration committee. Also, and I'm just guessing here, I get the feeling you are probably not quite 18 years old yet, and functionaries must identify themselves to the Wikimedia Foundation and prove they are legal adults. There are only a few dozen such users and pretty much all of them were already admins before they got appointed, so I would put that out of your mind for the moment. Rollback and reviewer, on the other hand, should be pretty easy to get once you have an established record of identifying and reverting vandalism. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:31, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

You are correct, I am not 18 yet. I am yes, still in middle school, but going into high school next year. I was just throwing ideas out there. I already do rollback and I'm trying to get reviewer, so I'll hope for the best. Thanks. WorldTraveller101 23:17, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Heh, beebs...you're "firm" are ya? Not sure I needed to know that. To be honest, the only "right" that WorldTraveller is apparently heading for is "blocked". As you'll see down below, your review of Toddst1's talkpage and ANI would be welcome ... as would your comments (✉→BWilkins←✎) 16:18, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Tudor Rd., Anchorage

Hi, do you happen to know when Tudor Rd. in Anchorage, AK was paved? I'm sitting here in walking distance from Tudor and Lake Otis, wondering if my professor's right that Tudor wasn't paved till the '70s. This was sure interesting. Yopienso (talk) 01:11, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

I don't know, in the 70's I was in Ohio going to elementary school. I was about to ask RadioKAOS to comment, he knows more about such things than anybody, but I see you have already asked them too. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:23, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Beeblebrox. Yopienso (talk) 17:45, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Just asking ..

Please would you take a look at this edit and explain why "cmt" covers your deletion of my edit? Thanks. Philip Trueman (talk) 20:13, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Because that user was blocked by me already so the report was no longer needed. We don't reply to reports if the user was blocked, we just block and move on. Usually a bot gets that done rather quickly but it must have been on a break or something. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:12, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Aw come on

Your not one of the more active admins (per AdminStatus. Well good job anyway. WorldTraveller101 21:00, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

I wonder which is the point of raising this here...--Jetstreamer  23:18, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Ummmmm...well this was kind of a JK kind of...oh but you are so always on the ball, how can you not type of thing. WorldTraveller101 23:57, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

• If this is a joke I can't say I see the humor, but whatever. Stats do not accurately reflect who is and is not a currently active admin. I don't think I have ever looked at that page until just now and I doubt most of the admins listed there know or care what their "standings" are as good admins do not approach their work that way at all. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:58, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Maybe you're interested in dropping some lines here.--Jetstreamer  16:11, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Never seen that page before but it doesn't seem very useful. The most helpful things an admin can do will never get logged there. There is no ranking for "blocks prevented by properly mediating" nor "protections avoided by discussing with parties" etc. Sometimes you have to block or protect, but the real success is when we could have used the tools, but found a way to not use them and got the job done. No way to measure that. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 18:07, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

AfD–closing script

I noticed that you have been closing some AfDs and you appeared to be doing it manually. Just as an FYI, this script might make closing AfDs much easier for you. Of course, you can close AfDs however you want, but I thought I'd let you know about the script just in case it might actually be helpful for you. Regards, AutomaticStrikeout (T • C • Sign AAPT) 19:22, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm actually using Misplaced Pages:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts/CloseAFD.js which is similar but doesn't quite have all the options. I might try that one, thanks for letting me know. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:35, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

No problem. AutomaticStrikeout (T • C • Sign AAPT) 19:44, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Rosetta Code

Here are three mentions of Rosetta code from books I found this morning:

1. Speaking Code: Coding As Aesthetic and Political Expression from MIT Press.
2. Steps in Scala from Cambridge University Press.
3. Programming in Go: Creating Applications for the 21st Century from Addison-Wesley.

I would like your support in resurrecting this page. --Paddy (talk) 06:58, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Just found this:

• A reference in the peer reviewed Journal of Statistical Software in the paper A Multi-Language Computing Environment for Literate Programming and Reproducible Research, (Search for 'Rosetta Code' in the text and list of references).

--Paddy (talk) 07:17, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Well, my only role here was determining what the consensus was at the afd debate, I don't personally have an opinion on it. If you think you can improve the article to the point where it would be retained I could WP:USERFY the deleted version for you. Beeblebrox (talk) 14:48, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Please do and I and hopefully others will work on it before trying to recreate the "standard" page. --Paddy (talk) 18:31, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

 Done, see User:Paddy3118/Rosetta Code. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:43, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Vanilla DeVille

• Would you please userfy this? Honestly, it baffles me that it was deleted ("no consensus", maybe, but...). The article seemed to be fine until the subject's husband showed up and added all the COI edits (and he was an obvious SPA because after he was told about it for the last time, he apparently left Misplaced Pages). In addition, all the people that !voted "delete" claimed the nominations weren't notable when they actually were (as proven by other users, not me). Erpert 07:54, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

 Done, see User:Erpert/Vanilla DeVille. Beeblebrox (talk) 14:53, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Erpert, none of your comments about me or your article are factual and I've asked you several times to stop posting false accusations about me - I have taken the matter to Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Beeblebrox, sorry that this issue was brought to your talk page. Stewiedv (talk) 00:18, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

One more thing...

• Given this subsequent discussion, if I were to move the article back to namespace, would you consider restoring the talk page? (I know that isn't hugely important, but...) Erpert 06:37, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Anytime an article is restored to mainspace it is entirely appropriate to restore the old talk page, so yes, I would. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:37, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit conflict

Why is it that we wind up doing UAA patrol around the same time so often? :-) Daniel Case (talk) 18:12, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't know, I tend to do it a lot in the morning, Alaska time, it often seems to be backlogged when I get there, then the backlog shrinks really fast as we both knock 'em out... Beeblebrox (talk) 18:18, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Ah. When I do it in the morning (Eastern time), which is often the case on weekdays, you're still in bed. Mid-afternoon here ... makes sense. Daniel Case (talk) 18:26, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

La Catrina

Why'd u delete La catrina: El Ultimo Secreto? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sawerchessread (talk • contribs)

Well, if you were able to figure out that I was the one who deleted it, you should have seen in that same log entry that it was deleted as a result of the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/La Catrina (educational program). As that was nearly three years ago I can't say I really remember anything else about it, but from looking at the discussion the issue, as it so often is, was a lack of significant coverage from reliable sources that are independent of the subject. The deleted versions of both this article and the article on the original series had references, but from what I can see none of them were relianble sources. Most educational videos made to be shown in classrooms (as opposed to on television) are probably not going to be sufficiently notable for a stand-alone Misplaced Pages article. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:50, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Adminship

Hello, Beeblebrox. I am the weirdo who thanked you for denying me reviewer rights. Over the past few months, I have been participating fully in the Misplaced Pages community, with a particular focus on AfC and NPP. I would like to, over the next few months, achieve real reviewer status and become active with the GOCE and the Typo Team. Also, one of my large overarching goals is to become an admin. As an admin, I could function so much more effectively and be able to contribute so much more to this grand collection of knowledge known as Misplaced Pages. My question to you is how can I focus my work here on Misplaced Pages to become an admin? Thanks for any advice you can give me. Please leave me TB if you reply here. Thanks, TheOneSean | Talk to me 01:53, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

I got asked the same question by another user not long ago and I think the answer I gave them applies here as well:

The best piece of advice I can give you is to be patient. Seeming over-eager to become an admin is a great way to convince a lot of people you should not be one. Most admin candidates who pass a request for adminship have been active editors for at least a year and have established a reputation for making good decisions and being familiar with policies, as well as making good contributions to discussions. Some specifics include:

• Admins are expected to be very well versed in deletion policies espescially the criteria for speedy deletion
• New page patrol is one area that you could try as it will test your ability to differentiate articles that qualify for speedy deletion from articles that, while they may have problems, cannot be speedy deleted.
• Participation in deletion discussions is another area where you can learn how deletion and consensus work.
• Warning and reporting vandals or username violations are activities that will bring you into regular contact with active admins so you can see how they handle them.
• Participation at WP:RFA will give you a good idea of what you will have to go through and the microscope you will be under when you do decide to run.
• When you feel like you are about half way there it is a good idea to ask for an editor review to get feedback on your progress so far.

Remember to assume good faith and don't bite the newcomers when doing any of these things. As you are aware Misplaced Pages can be a bit overwhelming with all its policies and guidelines, and sometimes the only reason a user runs afoul of them is because they just didn't know about them, not because they are malicious and trying to destroy Misplaced Pages, although those people are certainly out there as well. Once again, the most important thing you need to remember is to be patient, it takes time to acquire the knowledge and experience the community expects of an admin. I was here two years before my first try, and it failed pretty badly because of one single careless mistake I had made a few weeks earlier. The second one went much better because I showed that it was just a single screw up and not part of a pattern of making the same mistake. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:46, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks so much. You have been nothing but pure awesome to my newbie self every time I run into you. Thanks so much. TheOneSean | Talk to me 01:10, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Enjoyed your essay

I remember a particular edit summary you once made, and it took me for ever to find it, because I thought it was awesome and shows that admins are human, too. While searching your contribs, I saw a link to your essay. Yes, there a jerks that need to be told this sometimes. So, if I become more active here, I will try to follow Misplaced Pages:DGAF – it seems to be a lot less stressful. :) — Confession0791 22:42, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Ah yes, the flaming downfall of the 2011 pending changes RFC. What a fun moment that was. As you can see there I became something of a boogeyman to some users and was accused of all sorts of bizarre things when all I really wanted to do was find a consensus on the big issues. Anyhoo, you may also enjoy User:Beeblebrox/The perfect policy proposal, which was partially inspired by that experience. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:07, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Wow, this place is nuts. Thanks for the heads up! — Confession0791 00:58, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

mail

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Global James Bond Day

Hi Beeblebrox, It looks like the merge discussion on Talk:Global James Bond Day has boiled down to two choices (being Dr. No (film)#Legacy and Eon Productions), with no-one seemingly over-worried about which of the two it turns out to be; I suspect this is partly because there are good arguments for it being on either or both. Your call on which the re-direct goes to, but if you could formally close on one side or the other and I'll ensure that there is adequate coverage about the topic on both articles, with the bulk of the information being on the page you choose. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 12:29, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Normally I don't think I would be comfortable doing that, but as you say nobody seems to have a really strong opinion on the matter, so I picked the Dr. No option. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:35, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

please

2013 Cleveland, Ohio, missing trio should be moved

Hi, The title "2013 Cleveland, Ohio, missing trio" is confusing and poorly worded. A more descriptive and precise name would be "Ariel Castro case," which is consistent with other cases of the same nature. I noticed you put a protection on moves, but this page should be moved to a new page titled "Ariel Castro case." Thank you. Alligatorwine (talk) 3:39, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

I agree that the current title is awful. However, there is an ongoing discussion on the talk page about what a preferable option would be and last time I looked at it there was not yet a clear consensus on where to move it. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:17, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Amiram Goldblum

Protection Policy

You took part in a previous discussion on the protection policy talk page about the reference to "uncontroversial" edits. A survey is now in progress on that page in response to a request for comments. You may want to visit that talk page again and provide your input to try to obtain consensus. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:48, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Pure Vandalism

This seems to be an account just for vandalism. - Amaury (talk) 17:21, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

It sure does, and I've blocked it for a month, by then school will be out for the summer there. While I never mind doing such things, you may get a faster response by reporting at WP:AIV. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:19, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Why the RFC

I made one incorrect edit based on the text of a lead. I made another good faith edit based on the fact people were focusing on columns by a writer, and you now want to start an RFC agaisnt me. This is uncalled for in the extreme. No one discussed either of these issues with me at my talk page, the edit on an actor was just thrown at me from left field. I have been totally abiding by the rules, and adding people to things like Category:American women journalists without removing them from relevant categories. I think that the threat of an RFC is totally uncalled for and would really appreciate it if you removed the uncaleld for link to a potential one. I even reverted my own edits on Filipacchi. I am trying to cooperate and adapt, but peopel seem to just want to punish and attack me. This is not at all a way to build a better encyclopedia.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:46, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

It seems to me that most people seem to oppsoe the ban, that many people have commented on it, and that it is unlikely to gain any traction. I really think moving it to another forum will just needlessly draw out the drama. What we may need if a CfD discussion on whether on not we should even have Category:American women journalists.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:12, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Jon, a user RFC (a proper one based on real concerns) is not against you or anyone. It is supposed to be a discussion, an opportunity to air out perceived issues and come to some sort of compromise or other voluntary solution. By definition it cannot lead to any type of formal sanction, so it would be a step down in severity from the current effort to just kick you out, which I do not support. That being said, I think you should do yourself a favor and self-topic-ban from anything even vaguely related to Amanda Filipacchi. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:23, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

• Sorry about my previous statements. I probably over reacted. I probably let this get to me too much. Sorry if I came off too strong. For what it is worth I actually was the one who reverted my most recent edits to Amanda Filipacchi.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:15, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

I've actually been there myself. I never thought one of my actions here would be mentioned on Fox News. I hid under a rock for a while after that, so I am aware the stress this kind of scrutiny can engender. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:25, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

I just saw your essay

I never swear or use bad language - perhaps it's a habit that comes from being a teacher - but I fully understand where you're coming from, especially as I am privileged, unlike many others, with knowing you personally. Hope to catch up with you again for a beer or two :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 19:30, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

I never heard my father, also a teacher, use "the f-word" until after he retired, and even then he was quoting someone else. I didn't get a scholarship this year so I'm going to miss out on Hong Kong, but there's always London next year. They have beer in London, right? Beeblebrox (talk) 20:46, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

I haven't been to London for about 40 years so 2014 will change that. I've been to Wiki meetups in Oxford a couple of times, and as far as I know, the beer in nearby London will be pretty much the same :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:54, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

We have beer in London. Though sadly nowadays much is chilled, pasteurised and much the same as the watery transparent stuff served in foreign parts. ϢereSpielChequers 07:02, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Count me among the essay's fans too. CorporateM (Talk) 13:49, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Commons classes

Responded on your page on Commons Dankarl (talk) 20:54, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Block request by Mathnerd 101

I have lots of homework right now, but I still haven't been able to stay off Misplaced Pages. Please block me until June 15 so that I can stay off Misplaced Pages. Also, please either accept or refuse my request without further discussion, as I don't want to spend a lot of time discussing my block request.

I'm not contacting you via email because my parents would not approve if I posted something such as an email address on a page visible to the public.

Thank you for your consideration! --Mathnerd 101 _{What I have done} 21:00, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

You appear to meet my requirements for self-requested blocks,  Done. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:06, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Content dispute on "Stripper" page

my contributions and edits, some of which are the subject of the content dispute, are part of a final project i am working on with a partner for a course on labor organization. we need to contribute substantially to this page. this will be for the most part confined to the section i have created, "Organizing in the Workplace." it also has to be done by tomorrow.

i was unaware of the custom of discussion before the removal of images, which was Beyond My Ken's problem with my edits, and i pinky promise that neither of us will do it again if you remove the protection on the page today.

thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tbuford (talk • contribs) 22:07, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Except for the undiscussed removal of images, Tbuford's edits to the Stripper article have been interesting, informative and beneficial. Since the only issue between us was the images, I join with Tbuford in asking you to remove the protection from the article. Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 09:03, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Well, obviously I was not around yesterday, but  Done. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:25, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:37, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

No reason

Dude, why the fuck did you delete my Raiden Francisco page? GIMPmakesWikis (talk) 11:43, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

A question phrased like that doesn't really deserve a reply, but I could give you a whole list of reasons why it was not an appropriate Misplaced Pages page.

There was no indication of the significance of the subject

The way it was written suggested it may be vandalism, usually "gimp" is considered an insult

If you are writing about yourself you should be aware that this is stongly discouraged here

You should also read this page

I hope that clarifies matters for you. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:15, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

...for approving rollback on my account. EBY (talk) 21:52, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

May I respond to the remainder of the comments at my RfC in a separate section outside of the closed discussion?

May I respond to the remainder of the comments at my RfC in a separate section outside of the closed discussion? Thanks! --Jax 0677 (talk) 22:19, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't really see any point to that, the RFC is closed. It also seems likely that you are about to face an attempt to formally sanction you, I would save any defense you may have for that discussion. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:23, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

*sighs*

Reading through my archives, I feel rather silly now regarding the "negative" messages, by which I mean the messages you and other users left regarding my problematic behavior back then. I even read through an old AN/I report regarding my behavior, which I'm not sure you saw or not. I still feel like that IP's only goal was to get everything it could revoked from me, but all the same, I feel silly reading through it now.

In regards to you, to this day I still can see me taking your responses the wrong way. I still have problems with that sometimes and even created a thread here for advice back on October 25, 2012. However, I understand why you were doing and would like to apologize for all the trouble I caused you back then.

Also, I have a question. I contacted DGG, the administrator that revoked my HUGGLE access (see above AN/I link), back in June 2012 regarding HUGGLE, but he never got back to my last reply. Perhaps you could assist? Thanks! =) - Amaury (talk) 17:25, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

When I look at the turn around you have made I see a success story and I'm happy to tell you I have restored your rollback rights. You should be able to use Huggle again, you may want to go to WP:HUGGLE to find the latest version for download. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:02, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind words. They mean a lot. I don't know whether my age in December 2010 (19) when I was blocked indefinitely was one of the factors or what to the problematic behavior, but I came back on May 1, 2012 when I was 20, and I am now 21 (November 8, 2012) and I feel like a much better user than ever before. I will definitely not make you regret this!

Also, I cannot access HUGGLE: "Huggle is not enabled on your account. Check user configuration page." I think DGG deleted the page and protected it from recreation when he revoked it from me. - Amaury (talk) 19:32, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Hmm. I've actually never used Huggle so I don't really know much about it, but it looks like the config page would be at User:Amaury/huggle.css, which as far as I can tell is not create-protected. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:58, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks. - Amaury (talk) 21:19, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Talk:George Maharis

Someone voted after you closed the discussion. --George Ho (talk) 05:56, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Alaska changes

It appears that not only the talk page shortcuts, but the Recent changes pages for WikiProject Alaska were deleted as "routine housekeeping" within the past several weeks. I dunno if there was a legitimate reason, or someone simply has too much time on their hands. I would fix it, but something tells me that without any discussion first, they're open to being deleted out of hand once again.

This begs a larger question. There was a proposal a while back to roll WikiProject Alaska into WikiProject United States, similar to what's currently done with a number of other states. There was no consensus because there was no real discussion to speak of. I wonder if it's time to have that discussion, considering the project has been on life support for years now. RadioKAOS  – Talk to me, Billy 22:11, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

I can't see how deleting such pages is housekeeping. But like you say the project is not particularly active, it may indeed be time to have that conversation. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:14, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Server Issues

Sorry if you're not the right person to contact, but I don't know where to go and thought I'd contact you since you're an administrator.

It looks like Misplaced Pages is currently having server issues. My TWINKLE options have disappeared and loading performance in general is really slow. Is this a common problem with Misplaced Pages or just a weird bug right now? It's been like this for about 30 minutes now, I would say. - Amaury (talk) 02:51, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Yep. Definitely appears to be server issues if pages are sometimes loading like this. The toolbar in the editor is also missing, I should mention. - Amaury (talk) 03:11, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

TWINKLE tools and the editor toolbar are back, so it seems to be recovering, per se. Sorry about the message bombardment, BTW. XD - Amaury (talk) 03:17, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't kno w the first thing about how the servers work. It's not really something admins deal with. If you have problems like that in the future you are likely to get helpful, or at least less clueless advice at WP:VPT. Beeblebrox (talk) 05:34, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Gotcha. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction for future issues. - Amaury (talk) 05:54, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

MiszaBot II

Hello Beeblebrox. I noticed your edit summary at Misplaced Pages talk:Move review. But a quick look at Special:Contributions/MiszaBot II suggests that MiszaBot II is alive and well. Would you consider restoring the bot instructions for WT:MR? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 03:59, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

• The thing is, it wasn't doing it's job anymore. I could swear when I made the edit it said User:MiszaBot, which is in fact blocked but in either event there is a thread right on the page that is well over 90 days old and not archived, and it was not creating links for new archives so everything from 2013 that had been archived was basically gone. So, I would suggest that some new bot coding is in order instead of restoring the old one that isn't working. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:10, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

No hard feelings

As I tried to make abundantly clear in my request for opinions, I think you to be a fair administrator for the most part. I just felt that the abrupt closing of an unfinished discussion with a new question that was five minutes old without offering the chance for the questionee to respond was unfair. Misplaced Pages is not a contest to be won in my opinion, and the lack of consensus wasn't my objection to the closure, it was the brevity. I actually didn't get the opportunity to post the AN-notice as everything happened so quickly and I'm taking care of keeping my 21 month old daughter from getting hurt playing in the livingroom (she likes to pull her playcenter over on herself). I do apologize and just want to be clear that it was not intended to be a personal attack against you. I hope you enjoy the rest of your day. Happy editing! Technical 13 (talk) 16:57, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm normally the type who just accepts any apology without hesitation, but I have to tell you this sounds and looks like a cheap excuse. You had time to put down 1355 characters about my alleged abuse but no time to put {{subst:AN-notice}} on my talk page? And right after writing this you opened another thread about the close in which you backed off the accusations of abuse but still call it premature, despite the fact that literally nobody else seems to see it that way? Sorry, but your "apology" rings pretty hollow. Please, just let it go already. You must realize by now that you are harming rather than helping Shadow Crow with this approach. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:01, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

My apology above is sincere; if you chose not to accept it, that is your choice. this thread was a statement intend to simply inform that all is well with me and I've already left that stick in the barn. Due to load times on my end, the result of me saving my post that asks a question of another user was that it came up as discussion closed. I didn't even get time to read my post after saving before the discussion was closed, it's like trying to tell a story and getting slapped in the face mid-sentence. Anyways, I believe that was not your intent, and my apology stands for reacting instead of taking a deep breath and acting. I hope that you can assume good faith in me as I do in you and accept the apology for what it is and move on to build an encyclopedia with myself and the rest of the community. Thank you for your time. Technical 13 (talk) 18:09, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

The latest thread on AN was perhaps one of the dumbest things to happen there in awhile (other than the request for TSC's topic ban to be reconsidered) - "everything is fine" is not an announcement. Even your "announcement" was qualified. I'm not sure what the heck you were thinking doing either or them, believe it or not. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 18:16, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) (edit conflict) @T13: And yet, in that new (2nd/3rd?) thread you've opened you propound at length with your excuses for not notifying a user, all valid, I'm sure, while failing to consider the same sort of thing might have happened to another user - and instead announcing that he "broke the rules by posting to a closed thread". Edit conflicts don't always give warnings, you know. You also failed to notify me of that thread. Really, I despair. Don't reply to me about this, I've wasted enough time on it (sorry for borrowing your page B.) Begoon  18:21, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

...and I have specifically noted on AN that T13 should stop posting at AN/ANI completely for a long while ... I'm hoping this "voluntary topic ban" occurs so that it doesn't need to become formalized (✉→BWilkins←✎) 18:24, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

I hope that isn't necessary. I think restrictions should be a last resort, which is why I was ever in the discussion in the first place... Begoon  03:29, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Possible Conflict of Interest issue

If it's not too much trouble, I wonder could you possibly either check out a possible conflict of interest problem that has been raised by somebody here on my Talk Page and which I'm not sure that I've handled correctly, or if you're too busy could you perhaps ask some other admin to have a look at the matter. Tlhslobus (talk) 02:12, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

The main thing in my opinion when dealing with persons with obvious COI issues is to suggest that they only suggest edits on the talk page, not make them themselves. They don't always like that idea and they don't actually have to do it, but it makes them appear more credible and willing to respect our policies. If they are slanting the article on one direction or another we have a dedicated noticeboard at WP:COIN for dealing with that. Beeblebrox (talk) 03:02, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Beeblebrox. Tlhslobus (talk) 18:16, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Baycrest Hill

Say, is this photo of Baycrest Hill? My memories of 1989 aren't what they used to be, understandably. RadioKAOS  – Talk to me, Billy 02:21, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Maybe I spoke too soon. The following photos in the set show the Spit, so I'm sure it has to be. If you can confirm, though, let me know. RadioKAOS  – Talk to me, Billy 02:25, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

There's more houses up there now and I'm pretty sure they straightened that curve a bit, but that absolutely is Baycrest Hill. They just started a repaving project this week from here clear to the other side of Anchor Point, at the same time that Enstar is tearing up everybody's yard for the new gas line. Gonna be an interesting experience trying to drive from point A to point B this summer... Beeblebrox (talk) 03:23, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I've had nothing but "fun" dealing with the Upload Wizard on Commons, which is why I haven't uploaded too many photos lately. Then, to top it off, my laptop was stolen two months ago along with all my ongoing photo-related work. Thankfully, I have backups. I was sweating whether these photos I found on Flickr were going to upload before the library closed, but looks like I made it with minutes to spare. RadioKAOS  – Talk to me, Billy 04:56, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

User:AfricaTanz

Hi,

You granted Reviewer rights to the above user on 9 May 2013. I am providing this update on the user's recent conduct for your information. Thanks. Taroaldo (talk) 22:47, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you feel I need to be updated on what this user has been doing, unless it is your intent to suggest that the granting of the reviewer right was an error. If that's what you're getting at please just say so, otherwise I don't know why I would be interested in this information. Beeblebrox (talk) 05:16, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Well, that was a bit testy. I was attempting to be "relaxed" in my approach. But if you need me to spell it out, I will be happy to. I believe you have made a serious mistake in granting this user Reviewer rights. His/her interactions with other editors are sometimes uncivil, he has attempted to intimidate other editors (eg threatening indef blocks for removing a cleanup template from an article), shows no willingness to discuss controversial edits, engages in edit wars, and attempts to bait other editors. I discovered this all through one of his/her uncivil edit summaries I found when perusing Recent Changes: I have had no previous involvement with any of these editors.

I would have listed the diffs here, but I'm really not inclined to use up any more of my time after your response above. You're an admin" look them up. The link I already provided you to the 3rr Report is a good start. Regards Taroaldo ✉ 20:36, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

RFR/R reversion

Hello, I was just curious why my non-administrator observation comment was reverted. Thanks, smileguy91 16:20, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Short answer, because I am using an iPad and have big fingers, I had already re-instated it by the time you posted this though . Beeblebrox (talk) 16:22, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the fast response. Cheers, smileguy91 16:32, 9 June 2013 (UTC)