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*I didn't interpret this as a resignation request until I saw EVula's action on my watchlist. I am finding it impossible to come up with anything civil to say. Nothing against EVula, of course, but goddamn it to hell.--] (]) 15:58, 5 July 2013 (UTC) | *I didn't interpret this as a resignation request until I saw EVula's action on my watchlist. I am finding it impossible to come up with anything civil to say. Nothing against EVula, of course, but goddamn it to hell.--] (]) 15:58, 5 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
::See my post in Boing's request. ] ] 16:11, 5 July 2013 (UTC) | ::See my post in Boing's request. ] ] 16:11, 5 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
:::I'm deeply, deeply tempted to jump on the desysop bandwagon as well. {{tq|"ArbCom repeatedly refuses to do anything about blatantly-unsuitable admins"}} — check. And ] such as ] and ] place blocks that they obviously know are highly controversial, without advising with anybody, without warning the user, and throw primadonna fits if somebody ventures to unblock without first collecting a consensus on ANI. () Yes, I know policy encourages this notion that the blocking admin '''owns''' the block. It shouldn't, that's all. It means that any blocked user, however unreasonably blocked, is supposed to sit and wait for all the timezones to first have their say in a "discussion". Trying to undo a 24-hour block on those conditions is meaningless. Just now, Sandstein's block of ] feels like the last straw for me. If this "corps" isn't cleaned up, and the ArbCom doesn't clean up ''their'' act, you may end up seeing all the reasonable admins leave in disgust. (Remember ]? He didn't even throw in the bit, he just left.) Then Sandstein can block the rest of the community and there will be no more trouble, ever. (This is not a request for people to ask me to stay. Don't, that's all. Just don't. I'm going to think about it by myself.) ] | ] 18:01, 5 July 2013 (UTC). |
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Regards, — Moe Epsilon 01:23, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
- Done, may I prevail upon you to update the relevant lists of former admins? WJBscribe (talk) 11:31, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
Rename request
Would a bureaucrat please reply at WP:CHU/Simple#Neo. → The One? The user will not accept that the presence of a SUL account in his target name is an obstacle to a simple rename on en:wp. JohnCD (talk) 09:50, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
- I have replied. WJBscribe (talk) 10:59, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Crat Stats
Due to an API update, cratstats has ceased to function since June 23. This bug has now been fixed and cratstats now updates instantaneously when something changes.—cyberpower Online 00:52, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Desysop please
I wish to resign my admin status please - I finally no longer wish to be part of what is becoming an increasingly tainted category of users. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:43, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Can't we hold off on this please? Seems to be a heat of the moment thing and I want to talk to him on his talk page. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 10:09, 5 July 2013 (UTC)- Sadly, withdraw. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 11:56, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- Ditto on the request to hold off for now. We shouldn't lose an admin over this kerfuffle at WP:AN. Bencherlite 10:14, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- It's really up to Boing but he probably won't even be watching this page. It's a shame though, because if all the untainted admins were to retire, then we would be left only with the tainted ones and the anti-admin brigade would have a field day. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:22, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- That sounds like the email I just sent him. I'm just asking the Crats to delay 24 hours, same as when we rebit someone. It is Boing's decision and I will respect it regardless, but I'm hoping he will reconsider after a few hours. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 10:31, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the email, Dennis - I've logged back in just to add a few words here in response. As I said in my reply, "The core problem is that the Misplaced Pages power structure is fundamentally flawed, and while neither WMF nor Arbcom will do anything about it (the latter repeatedly refuses to do anything about blatantly-unsuitable admins), we'll just keep on repeating the same fights over and over again - and I'm not prepared to do that any more". And 24 hours isn't going to change that. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:40, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- A shame to see you give up the mop. But IMH(and non-crat)O the circumstances do not count as cloud-worthy for the purposes of resysopping if you so feel in due course. Bencherlite 12:13, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- Like you, I can't how any Crat would see any cloud here. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 12:40, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- A shame to see you give up the mop. But IMH(and non-crat)O the circumstances do not count as cloud-worthy for the purposes of resysopping if you so feel in due course. Bencherlite 12:13, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- The only cloud is that we're going to be left with fewer and fewer front-line admins who bravely go about their work without a Kevlar™ vest - unless of course RfA picks up, and in the light of the current environment, I can't see that happening any time soon. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:43, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Done, reluctantly. No cloud whatsoever, and I'll be happy to resysop when and if Boing ever requests it. 28bytes (talk) 13:53, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- Boing puts it well and is spot on. Sad to lose him. The wiki power structure gets worse and worse and AC is gutless to do anything about it. PumpkinSky talk 16:11, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- I agree but that's what we get when we have a system that allows abusive admins to keep the tools and make it impossible to remove them. Kumioko (talk) 16:24, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- Yepper. We need a quick, efficient way to get rid of the all too common incompetent abusive admins. PumpkinSky talk 16:56, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- I would be fine with a consensus vote on a De-RFA or somwhere. If the community can vote on someone having the tools they can vote to remove them too. Subject to approval by a beauracrat of course. Kumioko (talk) 17:00, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- Yepper. We need a quick, efficient way to get rid of the all too common incompetent abusive admins. PumpkinSky talk 16:56, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- I agree but that's what we get when we have a system that allows abusive admins to keep the tools and make it impossible to remove them. Kumioko (talk) 16:24, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- Boing puts it well and is spot on. Sad to lose him. The wiki power structure gets worse and worse and AC is gutless to do anything about it. PumpkinSky talk 16:11, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- As one needs to address admin gaining and losing tools systemically, I'm working on ideas/processes here (✉→BWilkins←✎) 17:18, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Same here
I'll have whatever Boing is having. Drmies (talk) 15:13, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- Sadly Done. Sorry to lose you. EVula // talk // ☯ // 15:49, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- I didn't interpret this as a resignation request until I saw EVula's action on my watchlist. I am finding it impossible to come up with anything civil to say. Nothing against EVula, of course, but goddamn it to hell.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:58, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- See my post in Boing's request. PumpkinSky talk 16:11, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- I'm deeply, deeply tempted to jump on the desysop bandwagon as well.
"ArbCom repeatedly refuses to do anything about blatantly-unsuitable admins"
— check. And cowboys such as Sandstein and Kww place blocks that they obviously know are highly controversial, without advising with anybody, without warning the user, and throw primadonna fits if somebody ventures to unblock without first collecting a consensus on ANI. ("Please do not ever do that to a block I have placed again.") Yes, I know policy encourages this notion that the blocking admin owns the block. It shouldn't, that's all. It means that any blocked user, however unreasonably blocked, is supposed to sit and wait for all the timezones to first have their say in a "discussion". Trying to undo a 24-hour block on those conditions is meaningless. Just now, Sandstein's block of Saedon feels like the last straw for me. If this "corps" isn't cleaned up, and the ArbCom doesn't clean up their act, you may end up seeing all the reasonable admins leave in disgust. (Remember Floquenbeam? He didn't even throw in the bit, he just left.) Then Sandstein can block the rest of the community and there will be no more trouble, ever. (This is not a request for people to ask me to stay. Don't, that's all. Just don't. I'm going to think about it by myself.) Bishonen | talk 18:01, 5 July 2013 (UTC).
- I'm deeply, deeply tempted to jump on the desysop bandwagon as well.
- See my post in Boing's request. PumpkinSky talk 16:11, 5 July 2013 (UTC)