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June 2013

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Good work on Mongolian presidential election, 2013! LukeSurl 13:15, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Luke! --kelapstick 21:22, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Kelapstick, Congratulations!!! You did a great job so promptly on Mongolian presidential election, 2013! Cheers, Mongolkhun 01:27, June 29 2013 (UTC)

Yes

I'm on it. Can I finish cooking dinner and walking the dog? Drmies (talk) 23:57, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

No, no you can't. --kelapstick 23:59, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Mining stuff

Seguing out of Fluorine, I have developed an interest in some mining topics. (But I am not a miner.)

• Fluorite
• List of countries by fluorite production
• Georgius Agricola
• De re metallica
• Herbert Hoover

I also uploaded all 273 De re to Commons and have an idea to make a little project to organize them (fill out descriptions so they make sense visavis the translated text).

TCO (talk) 01:55, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

P.s. I should have been a geologist or a mining engineer. What a manly profession. Spudding in oil wells while fighting off Bedouins, getting outdoors and wearing jeans, and then some cool science...and the heavy metal.

So...

- you don't know about the anti-admin brigade? That's reason enough to oppose your RfA ;) Well, if you don't know now, when you get the bit it won't be long before you find out. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:03, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm part of it. Yeah, we need to have moderators here...but the whole fetish of the site over it and over moderation in general is a total fucking drag. And then there's the wannabe admins, kiddy admins, and the "don't be mean to people at RFA" 2011 reformers. I think I'm feeling more and more Kiefer had a good point.TCO (talk) 17:11, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the nice reply at your RfA and the invitation for discussion here.

Nobody does even moderate vetting of the candidates anymore. Where are the SandyGeorgia's going through 20 articles and checking sources? Where are the Snowden's of yesteryear?

I have an allergic reaction to nomination statements (self and selfless) that don't show me one example of the candidate thinking for himself and shaping debate---one example of backbone or forebrain (or preferably both).

For this RfA, my scrutiny was minimal, but honestly I did not find an article that interested me. (Usually I can find one!) Perhaps this is a sign of my declining interest in Misplaced Pages?

For obvious reasons, I am suspicious of administrators as a class and I am inclined to vote conservatively. The last RfA, like today's announcement of JPI's canonization, just had nice things to say. Please examine the new administrator's contribution to The World Traveler's talk page (on top of about 4 previous administrators' admonishments) to see whether my oppose and my instincts have proved to have some merit.

RfA's do have a political purpose in terms of defining the community's ethos. I think that the emphasis on proper sourcing and avoiding paraphrasing a couple years ago may have helped the encyclopedia project. Currently, I would like to know that the candidate is e.g. like Pedro or Bishonen, etc.---somebody who will speak honestly and try to be accurate, and have some recognition of complexities---even if we usually disagree. I don't know of a short way to write my concerns except by reference to virtue, which is unlikely to go over well.

Good luck!

Kiefer.Wolfowitz 19:49, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Kiefer, you are correct. There is not nearly the background checking at RfA that there was some time ago (in particular thinking back to my last one). As for shaping discussions, I don't generally get involved in noticeboards and similar. As noted I generally just write content. I do occasionally take part in deletion discussions, although not many lately, so I don't think you would find me leading and shaping discussions in many cases. I am sure that will probably just keep you leaning more on the oppose side, and I am OK with that. Feel free to drop by if you need to take a load off some time, my talk page is always open and I have no objection to being told when I am acting like an asshat. TCO, Kudpung, thanks for stopping by. Looks like things were busy overnight, I have a lot of reading to catch up on this morning. --kelapstick 22:19, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Unintentional

Q15 "Has not been unintended"

I think you meant "Has not been undeleted".

Regards.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:51, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes indeed. Thank you. Not sure how that ended up like that. It doesn't even make sense as it was written.--kelapstick 13:02, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Damodar Sharma

I have added a reference to the Damodar Sharma page, let me know if it is adequate

Thanks

SUSHRUTA (talk) 03:27, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Copying within Misplaced Pages

Hi Kelapstick! I noticed in your RFA a remark that led me to believe that you think there's no copyright implications of copying within Misplaced Pages. That's not so. The material in Misplaced Pages is copyright and is released under a Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike license. The content can be re-used, but attribution must be given. For a small excerpt, you can use an edit summary (for example, Diff of Madagascar Plan). For larger chunks, I like to use the {{Copied}} template, which should be applied to both the source and destination articles. Please see Misplaced Pages:Reusing Misplaced Pages content for more information on this subject. Let me be the first to welcome you to the admin corps! Best, -- Diannaa (talk) 18:22, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Diannaa, yes I see what you mean. In the reply to Q4 I only reference copyright material, but I am aware of the CC attribution requirements of Misplaced Pages. Usually what I do is use an edit summary as I did here in Mining in Mongolia when borrowing material from Oyu Tolgoi mine. Sometimes I find that I have collaborated with someone in userspace on an article that was created in the mainspace in the interim, such as the Best in the West Nugget Rib Cook-off, so I requested a history merge which was done here. That's not really reusing material but it is related to copying material and ensuring attribution. I have used the copied template before, and suggested a change to the wording of it here. In hindsight there are a couple articles that I should add the template to (in addition to the already existing edit summary attribution). There is a series of about three or four articles in the Mining in Mongolia series that were used as basis for sections of each other. Thanks for dropping in, and for the early welcome. --kelapstick 22:14, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying, Kelapstick. I just needed to set myself at ease that you were aware of these requirements, as it's been kinda in the back of my mind for a few days now. You seem to have a good knowledge of some of these issues, which is a good thing, as the copyright investigation dept is always short-handed. hint hint -- Diannaa (talk) 22:21, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Diannaa, I saw that too, the possibility of ambiguity. At any rate, thanks for asking and K, thanks for clarifying. You're getting close to 100: that's exciting. Drmies (talk) 23:25, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Bacon Explosion

I was editing Bacon Explosion trying to capitalize each instance of bacon explosion. Everything was going well until I changed preperation to preparation in infoboxes. Red lines everywhere. I was smart enough to click on Cancel. Please look for "preparation" in the .JPG description. I will leave the editing of Bacon Explosion to someone who is qualified. My early congratulations to you! Respectfully, Tiyang (talk) 10:30, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

thank you

thank you very much for mention me to create my own sandbox. I am having another problem about practise. I found that {{navbox}} is implemented by lua script called Module:navbox, this is very nice! so i want to learn and practice, but i think that if i create a page naming User:Extirpate/Module:testscript ,that will not work. It means that i have to creat a test script under "Module:" namespace. Could i do this? Create a page named Module:sandbox?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Extirpate (talk • contribs)

Hi Extirpate, I am not familiar with the Module namespace, you might try asking your question at Misplaced Pages talk:Lua. Cheers, --kelapstick 09:03, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

TattØØdẄaitre§ lĖTŝ tÅLĶ 03:20, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Hey there, new admin!

I just saw the close-- congrats Kelapstick! I, Jethrobot (note: not a bot!) 04:11, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

• Congrats! I think you'll make a wonderful addition to the team! Best regards, Cindy(talk) 04:23, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Thanks for coming out and supporting me, be sure to let me know when I screw up! --kelapstick 09:26, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

You're now an administrator, eh?

Someone said we needed more Canadian admins, so I made it so! Also your user page is supercool, and you like bacon, so that's reason enough for me. So go forth, and do adminly things. Congratulations, –xeno 04:14, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Congrats, Canadian! Paul Erik 04:19, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Congrats from Ontario :-) Dusti 04:45, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations! Beagel (talk) 04:52, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

• Congrats! Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:13, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Your powers are now as broad as the vista at the top of this page. Use them wisely, and congratulations. Cullen Let's discuss it 05:21, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Great to have you for help, - missing others, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:14, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks all, I shall do my best to help out. Indeed Gerda, we seem to be missing some good people as of late. Hopefully things take a turn for the better shortly, and I do hope Drmies is enjoying his vacation. --kelapstick 09:26, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

And 28bytes his, famous for his unblock. Who is bold and unblocks Eric Corbett so that he can take care of his TFA? My question what that block is supposed to achieve was not answered, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:16, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

• I'm on the road, K-stick. You did it! Great! Remember, five blocks per day for your first three months. I'm proud of you dude.

• • Well done and welcome to the mop! Brookie :) { - he's in the building somewhere!} 12:26, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations!! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:40, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, what they said - congrats! UltraExactZZ ~ Did 13:48, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Deleting Vidiby.com

I contested the deletion, yet no reply was given before it was deleted. Many other "websites" have[REDACTED] pages, please explain to me why pages such as "Net-a-Porter" are allowed to exist on Misplaced Pages while others can't. The language used in the Vidiby.com article wasn't boastful, or did not use any "promotional" languages. It also explained the history, mission, and the naming origin in the article (which was also explained in the contest to deletion). It was for informational purposes, which is the sole reason why Misplaced Pages exists in the first place! Also, if the deletion is permanent, at least provide a way to backup the written text where the article used to be.Vidiby (talk) 06:58, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Vidiby, I agree the page vidivy.com was not particularly boastful, you are correct. But it also didn't explain why it was important, which is why it was deleted. You say in your deletion contesting that it is not well known. Net-a-Porter is sourced from one the Telegraph and Bloomberg, and while the article needs work, those do show that they it is a notable subject. Cheers, --kelapstick 07:18, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Happy Naadam y'all

May all your plates be filled with buuz, and all your glasses be full of airag. --kelapstick 22:04, 10 July 2013 (UTC)