Talk:Khoren Oganesian: Difference between revisions

Browse history interactively ← Previous edit Next edit →Content deleted Content addedVisual WikitextInline

Revision as of 00:06, 26 July 2013 editIn ictu oculi (talk \| contribs)Autopatrolled, Extended confirmed users, Page movers, New page reviewers, Pending changes reviewers180,560 edits →Requested move 2 ← Previous edit		Revision as of 00:07, 26 July 2013 edit undoIn ictu oculi (talk \| contribs)Autopatrolled, Extended confirmed users, Page movers, New page reviewers, Pending changes reviewers180,560 edits →Requested move 2 Next edit →
Line 31:		Line 31:

	==Requested move 2==		==Requested move 2==
	<div class="boilerplate" style="background-color: #efe; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px dotted #aaa;"><!-- Template:RM top -->
	:''The following discussion is an archived discussion of a ]. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a ]. No further edits should be made to this section. ''

	The result of the move request was: '''RESULT.''' ] (]) 00:06, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

	----

	<div class="boilerplate metadata discussion-archived" style="background-color: #f5f3ef; overflow:auto; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #aaa">		<div class="boilerplate metadata discussion-archived" style="background-color: #f5f3ef; overflow:auto; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #aaa">
	:''The following discussion is closed. {{red\|'''Please do not modify it.'''}} Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.'' ''A summary of the conclusions reached follows.''		:''The following discussion is closed. {{red\|'''Please do not modify it.'''}} Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.'' ''A summary of the conclusions reached follows.''
	::Topic was open in violation of topic ban. Speedy closed.--] (]) 18:26, 25 July 2013 (UTC)		::Topic was open in violation of topic ban. Speedy closed.--] (]) 18:26, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
	---- <!-- from Template:discussion top-->		---- <!-- from Template:discussion top-->
	~~<nowiki>{{~~Requested move/dated\|Khoren Hovhannisyan~~}}</nowiki>~~		Requested move/dated\|Khoren Hovhannisyan

	Khoren speaks using the ] of where he was born. Hovhannisyan is the right spelling for that dialect. Oganesian is simply wrong. --] (]) 23:37, 24 July 2013 (UTC)		Khoren speaks using the ] of where he was born. Hovhannisyan is the right spelling for that dialect. Oganesian is simply wrong. --] (]) 23:37, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Line 58:		Line 51:
	*'''Support''' By the way, it's not about the dialect he speaks. Oganesyan is the Russified version of Hovhannisyan. As international organizations (such as FIFA, UEFA) translated names from Russian, not Armenian, his last name was misspelled. Also, similar patters can be seen for many Armenian politicians, such as the incumbent president ], whose last name is often spelled Sarkisyan (influenced by Russian Саркисян). --] ] 18:22, 25 July 2013 (UTC)		*'''Support''' By the way, it's not about the dialect he speaks. Oganesyan is the Russified version of Hovhannisyan. As international organizations (such as FIFA, UEFA) translated names from Russian, not Armenian, his last name was misspelled. Also, similar patters can be seen for many Armenian politicians, such as the incumbent president ], whose last name is often spelled Sarkisyan (influenced by Russian Саркисян). --] ] 18:22, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
	:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.''<!-- from Template:discussion bottom --></div>		:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.''<!-- from Template:discussion bottom --></div>
	:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a ]. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a ]. No further edits should be made to this section.</div><!-- Template:RM bottom -->

Revision as of 00:07, 26 July 2013

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

This article has not yet been rated on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Biography: Sports and Games

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Misplaced Pages's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography
	Sports portal This article is supported by the sports and games work group.
	This article has been automatically rated by a bot or other tool as Stub-class because it uses a stub template. Please ensure the assessment is correct before removing the `\|auto=` parameter.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Football Mid‑importance

	Association football portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Football, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Association football on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.FootballWikipedia:WikiProject FootballTemplate:WikiProject Footballfootball
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Armenia

	Khoren Oganesian is within the scope of WikiProject Armenia, an attempt to improve and better organize information in articles related or pertaining to Armenia and Armenians. If you would like to contribute or collaborate, you could edit the article attached to this page or visit the project page for further information.ArmeniaWikipedia:WikiProject ArmeniaTemplate:WikiProject ArmeniaArmenian
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Soviet Union Low‑importance

	Soviet Union portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Soviet Union, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Soviet UnionWikipedia:WikiProject Soviet UnionTemplate:WikiProject Soviet UnionSoviet Union
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Russia: Sports & games Low‑importance

	Russia portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Russia, a WikiProject dedicated to coverage of Russia on Misplaced Pages. To participate: Feel free to edit the article attached to this page, join up at the project page, or contribute to the project discussion.RussiaWikipedia:WikiProject RussiaTemplate:WikiProject RussiaRussia
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the sports and games in Russia task force.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Olympics

	Olympic Games portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Olympics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Olympics on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.OlympicsWikipedia:WikiProject OlympicsTemplate:WikiProject OlympicsOlympics
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
	This article has been automatically rated by a bot or other tool because one or more other projects use this class. Please ensure the assessment is correct before removing the `\|auto=` parameter.

It is requested that an image or photograph of Khoren Oganesian be included in this article to improve its quality. Please replace this template with a more specific media request template where possible.
Wikipedians in Armenia may be able to help!
The Free Image Search Tool or Openverse Creative Commons Search may be able to locate suitable images on Flickr and other web sites.

Upload

Requested move 1

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page not moved. Arbitrarily0 00:46, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

– He is of the Eastern dialect, so this version is correct. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 22:42, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Oppose FIFA and most reliable sources call him Oganesian.--Ronaldo 96 (talk) 18:58, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Oppose. We go by usage, not by someone's opinion of what is correct. Andrewa (talk) 07:33, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Requested move 2

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

Topic was open in violation of topic ban. Speedy closed.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:26, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Requested move/dated|Khoren Hovhannisyan

Khoren speaks using the Yerevan dialect of where he was born. Hovhannisyan is the right spelling for that dialect. Oganesian is simply wrong. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 23:37, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. --BDD (talk) 16:01, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Oppose - as stated just 3 months ago, the WP:COMMONNAME appears to be 'Oganesian'. Giant Snowman 16:31, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

User:GiantSnowman

Khoren Hovhannisyan Google search: 40,400 results

Khoren Oganesian Google search: 29,300 results

You're not very good at this Admin thing. I respectfully suggest you resign. Stop stalking my contributions (in bad faith, I might add) too. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 17:36, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

How amusing - and I suggest you look at FIFA and NFT (among others) for the COMMONNAME of this player in English. Giant Snowman 17:57, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

First of all NFT spells it Oganesyan. Second of all what happened to databases being evil?

FIFA is just one in many. The UEFA got it right. And you have got to wonder how many of the smaller amount of websites spelling his name Oganesian were misled by Misplaced Pages. It's time to set things right. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 18:05, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

You are completely right of course, 'Oganesyan' and 'Oganesian' are ridiculously far apart... Giant Snowman 18:16, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Support By the way, it's not about the dialect he speaks. Oganesyan is the Russified version of Hovhannisyan. As international organizations (such as FIFA, UEFA) translated names from Russian, not Armenian, his last name was misspelled. Also, similar patters can be seen for many Armenian politicians, such as the incumbent president Serzh Sargsyan, whose last name is often spelled Sarkisyan (influenced by Russian Саркисян). --Երևանցի 18:22, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Categories: