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Dario Maestripieri

Can you please expand on the "see talk" edit summary for your removal of my edit, which cited Scientific American, Inside Higher Ed, The Scientist and The Chicago Maroon as sources (the linked article themselves contain a dozen or so more secondary references)? You can reply here, to keep the conversation in one place. 24.12.201.87 (talk) 23:45, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Sure. It means see talk page. --Malerooster (talk) 02:05, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Discussion at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Sally Season

You are invited to join the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Sally Season. Viriditas (talk) 07:53, 25 October 2012 (UTC)Template:Z48

Request for comment

A discussion has been opened at Misplaced Pages:No_original_research/Noticeboard#Frank_L._VanderSloot, where all discussion should take place.

The questions are:

1. Based on the claim of Synthesis, should the original version or the revised version of the LGBT Section be used in the article from henceforth—of course with the ability to edit it as necessary?
2. Because the original "LGBT issues" Section adversely comments on a Living Person, should that section be immediately replaced with the revised section—of course with the ability to edit it as necessary?
3. Should the Sources identified as faulty or not germane be eliminated from the list of References?
   GeorgeLouis (talk) 00:00, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Monty₈₄₅ 17:40, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

DOB of minors

We do not remove publicly available information about minors if it is properly sourced, as you did in Fred Savage. Misplaced Pages is not censored. Cresix (talk) 16:44, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Cresix, I reverted you and commented on the article talk page. Hopefully others will chime in and we can see if any consensus forms. Unless the minors are notable in their own right, why add their exact dob, how does that improve the article? I believe, but could be wrong, that this is the de facto standard as it were for handling dobs of non notable individuals, and especially minors. I would be open to getting further clarification since I have removed the dobs of many minors and would stop if the consensus was against this. Thank you. --Malerooster (talk) 21:37, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

I also posted to the BLP board and would cite WP:IINFO. --Malerooster (talk) 21:58, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	On Stanley Salmons. Bearian (talk) 22:14, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Comment

Well said regarding SchuminWeb. We rarely see our own hand in mixing the stew. ```Buster Seven Talk 11:47, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Human nature, and its always alot easier commenting from the cheap seats and monday morning QBing as well :) --Malerooster (talk) 21:58, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Daniel Catullo

Hello. I today was invited to Daniel Catullo's office and after meeting him I was allowed to take some photos that I am posting for his Wiki page. I was already in his area and it was no more then ten minutes but I did get photos of the awards in his mane in regard to the titles that you have tried to delete. Can you at least allow me time to get this posted, I do have a normal life...--WPPilot 05:49, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Ah, ok, hopefully if you include reliable sources for all additions, that would really help. Can you also please link your signature to your talk or user page? At one point you mentioned that you were Daniel. Was that just a mistake? --Malerooster (talk) 05:57, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

The photo that is now the MAIN photo of Dan is a photo that I took today of him pointing at the award he won Jammy Award for Dave Matthews –“The Central Park Concert” –(2003-Live Music Special/DVD) (Producer) - "Music DVD of the Year" Billboard Music Awards nomination. Won a Jammy Award for “DVD of the Year” and a Telly Award. Is that not source enough for you yet?--WPPilot 06:03, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Would you PLEASE put it back, this is really getting silly. Dan is now a member of Misplaced Pages, and he is a really nice person. As I said I was able to meet him today. I suggest that you first ASK him, on HIS talk page, rather then just delete the ref as I post pictures of him pointing to the award for the ref that you are removing. Does not seem to productive to me and you are only making more work.--WPPilot 06:05, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

(E/C)A photo? No, that would NOT be a reliable source for that material. I am seriously not trying to bust balls, but the project TRIES for higher standards. There is alot of crap out there, I know, but maybe read WP:RS and see if you could find something better? --Malerooster (talk) 06:07, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

WPPilot, thats great that Dan has joined the project and that he is a really nice person, I don't doubt that. This is more about that ALL material in articles, especially bios, is properly sourced, thats all. --Malerooster (talk) 06:11, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Are you kidding me? A picture of him standing with the award that you claim he dio not win in the office of the company that you also removed from the page, (DC3). What is wrong with you? Why on EARTH would you go ahead and remove DC 3, from the page? Clearly you are on a mission to remove data from his page, WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU REMOVE DC 3? Are you claiming now that he does not own DC3? I will post your summary removals to Dans talk page and ask him to provide some clearification, as it is I saw with my own eyes the awards for the entries that you are so determined to remove from his page.--WPPilot 12:49, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Oi, let's calm down. Though Malerooster actually as a point with something. The award you photographed (GWR) has a different number of cameras used on it then the record says on the website. He does have a point, and now we have two 'reliable sources' competing with one another. Seriously, they should be the same, but they aren't and your own picture is proof of it. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 05:35, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Moshe Friedman

Appreciate assistance. As I understand it BLP doesnt mean one can't write negative things as long as there are reliable sources. There are multiple reliable sources being scrubbed due to Holocaust denial. I can call myself the pope it doesnt make me the pope. Help. Moshe Friedman. Tellyuer1 (talk) 15:14, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Brownie Mary

Aloha. Khazar2 recently questioned your edit on the GA review page, and I was wondering you could take a minute to respond. At the moment, his question is located at the very bottom of the page, here. Thanks for your attention. Viriditas (talk) 23:29, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Just did, thank you for the heads up. --Malerooster (talk) 02:09, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit of Sean Hannity

Thanks for the welcome. My edit may not be notable, but shouldn't there at least be a section titled "Views"? Proud Novice (talk) 02:31, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Probably not since that is what this guys does, give his view. If this becomes some huge deal, it maybe could be added to his show article which he has or did have. If you feel strongly, you can also comment of the article talk page and see what others think. I am just one bird lover :) Good luck! --Malerooster (talk) 02:35, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Stephen Leather

Hi, I don't know if you will remember but way back in December you were involved in an issue with the Stephen Leather article. The same matter seems to be being raised again by Jprw who tried to have the blog reference included at that time. I really don't know an awful lot about BLP issues or policy so feel I'm a little out of my depth with this. Should it really be possible that the same editors can just keep chipping away at the same issues every few weeks? Should this be brought up (again) at the BLP noticeboard? SagaciousPhil - Chat 13:22, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

I vaugely remember this. Yes, if you feel a biography is being edited against policy and could be harmful to the subject, report it to the BLP board. That is probably how I went there in the first place. A number of good editors watch and work on those articles. The project is far from a perfect science and a human touch is involved so results vary widely. Use the talk page and good luck. I'll try to stop by and chime in as well. --Malerooster (talk) 01:01, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Stephen Leather

Hi Malerooster, I'm not sure if I have to post a notice about this on your page as well or not (or even if I've done the right thing raising the matter at ANI) but: There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The article is Stephen Leather. Thank you. SagaciousPhil - Chat 17:22, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi

Could you explain why you did this? http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Asian_American&diff=538664285&oldid=538663337

Thank you.

Evildoer187 (talk) 06:00, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

This should be discussed in the talk page of the article.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 16:19, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Agreed. --Malerooster (talk) 15:32, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Winter storm naming

I just wanted to make you aware of this discussion I started at Winter storm naming. I have no intentions of making any changes to the article myself, but was just hoping to get input from editors previously involved in the article (or recently-closed AfD) in an effort to improve the article and clarify its purpose. I will leave any changes to the consensus of other editors who decide what's best. Your participation would be welcome, regardless of your views on the issue. Thank you. 76.189.111.199 (talk) 22:15, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Notice of Neutral point of view noticeboard discussion

Hello, Malerooster. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Book of Leviticus.The discussion is about the topic Book of Leviticus. Thank you. - MrX 02:48, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Barry Pring

Hello, User:Malerooster, I like the edits you've been making! To reflect them, if you felt like getting involved in discussion as to why this page should stay, that would be great - http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Barry_Pring

I feel the case is notable of inclusion as it is a famous true-crime story, which has gone on for 5 years, is still going on, and has impact across wide media and prominent figures.

Best, User:GrahamWPhillips GrahamWPhillips (talk) 12:37, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. --Malerooster (talk) 22:17, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Kudos to you

for this. You're absolutely right. AutomaticStrikeout (T • C • AAPT) 01:52, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. --Malerooster (talk) 02:00, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

FYI - Article Probation on Men's rights movement

This is not a warning, only notifying you for the log. Thank you for your contributions to the encyclopedia! In case you are not already aware, an article to which you have recently contributed, Men's rights movement, is on article probation. A detailed description of the terms of article probation may be found at Talk:Men's rights movement/Article probation. Also note that the terms of some article probations extend to related articles and their associated talk pages.

The above is a templated message. Please accept it as a routine friendly notice, not as a claim that there is any problem with your edits. Thank you. -- v/r - TP 01:27, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up since I wasn't aware of this. --Malerooster (talk) 01:29, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

A pie for you!

Hello Malerooster, thank you for a welcome. I like birds too:-) and birds like my garden:-) I even take care of a small group of house sparrows (Passer domesticus). Already for years. Unfortunately their amount is decreasing each year, despite my efforts to help them to survive early spring and winter. I do not know where they sleep, but they spend daytime in my garden searching for food, cleaning their feathers, singing, looking around and just having a rest. I must disappoint you, but I won't edit here - I have already hands full of work on other Misplaced Pages and as you have already noticed, my English is not good enough to contribute here. I hope you will enjoy a piece of pie. If not chickens (also birds:-) and their eggs it wouldn't be possible to make delicious pastries. Chickens are also friendly and cute animals. I loved to feed them as a child. It always astonish me how protective the roosters are for hens, and how devoted mothers hens are for their young chickens. Greetings. Seleucidis (talk) 11:21, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

• Who doesn't love pie? :) --Malerooster (talk) 19:19, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Requesting Your Input

Would appreciate your opinion on Talk:Halle Berry. I see this image better for the infobox and would like to reach a consensus, since another editor contends that this very bad image is better. Helliea (talk) 21:06, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Ok. --Malerooster (talk) 02:24, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Décolletage

An article that you have been involved in editing, Décolletage , has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. — btphelps 15:26, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

— DivaKnockouts 17:58, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

On it. --Malerooster (talk) 17:58, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Who are you, anyway? Oh, and by the way, nobody likes you, XDDDD! — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoymeyahMonlin (talk • contribs) 13:36, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Notice of Neutral point of view noticeboard discussion

Hello, Malerooster. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Evan Mandery.The discussion is about the topic Evan Mandery. Thank you. Nick Levinson (talk) 16:26, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

June 2013

Please do not attack other editors, as you did on User talk: Jimbo Wales. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Stating that another editor is "lying" is a personal attack. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:58, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I said, Can't Prioryman please be blocked or banned already? How long does the community need to put up with his bull sh$t and personal attacks? Enough is enough already.]. I never said anything about "lying", but I should tone it down, and will do so. --Malerooster (talk) 02:27, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

My apology. The refactoring of the talk page was too confused, and it appeared that you had made the accusation. It was User:Prioryman who had made the accusation of lying. Robert McClenon (talk) 12:03, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

No problem. --Malerooster (talk) 23:58, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Howard Lederer

Hi Malerooster, I see you recently made some edits to the Howard Lederer article and wondered if you'd be interested in looking at revised draft of the article I've prepared? I'm looking for editors to review it for me as I have a conflict of interest (explained on the article's Talk). My aim with the draft is to bring the article up-to-date and address the few issues around Full Tilt. If you have the time to review the new draft and let me know what you think, please take a look at the draft in my user space and the full request on the Talk page where I've detailed the changes I've made. Thanks, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 19:27, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Sure, I'll check it out. To be honest, my writing skills aren't that good, so I stick more to MOS and small edits ect. The most important thing is that you use reliable sources for whatever material is involved and it is written in a neutral tone. Easy said than done of course, especially if there is any controversy involved and people are taking "sides". I believe I ended up on his page after coming from the BLP board which I like to monitor and help out with. Regards, --Malerooster (talk) 19:37, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

At quick glance, your draft looks pretty good. I removed the category Jewish American Writer from his Dad's article since that really isn't covered or sourced. I would remove the Jewish descent category from Howard's bio unless that can be sourced as well. Again, I am not familiar with the subject or what went down with Full tilt poker, ect. Good luck. --Malerooster (talk) 19:43, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for checking out the draft! I've followed your suggestion and removed the category "Americans of Jewish descent": I wasn't sure about removing that before, but if you think it's not appropriate to include without a clear source I'm happy to take it out. Also, thanks for leaving a note over on the Talk page, I appreciate your help but totally understand if you're more comfortable with having others look at the draft, too. Hopefully some more editors will come by soon. Thanks again, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 20:37, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

No problem, and yes, hopefully more people will comment, since that will help improve the article. --Malerooster (talk) 22:22, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

American Idol contestants' home towns

Hi. I was wondering why you removed the home towns of Tim Urban, Katie Stevens, and Aaron Kelly from lead sections of their articles. This information is certainly relevant enough to be mentioned there, so I can't tell what you based your decision on. --Jpcase (talk) 01:41, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi, It shouldn't go in the lead sentence/opening paragraph because where they are from is not really that notable or relevant, unless it is of course :). Maybe further into the bio unless where they are from is the reason for there notability. This is pretty "standard" per WP:MOSBIO, specifically WP:OPENPARAGRAPH. I hope this helps and of course I am open to others opinion on this. --Malerooster (talk) 02:56, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. That seems reasonable. --Jpcase (talk) 23:35, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

No problem. --Malerooster (talk) 00:26, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Asiana flight prank transclusion

Just wanted to thank you for removing the tags for transclusion from the KTVU article... Will be greatly helpful and should consensus be reached to transcode the info will have to be re-typed... Why didn't you just wait for the dust to settle before your quick removal? Again, thanks for undoing work previously completed. Signed, not-not-a-big-fan-of-rework.TRL (talk) 03:12, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Creepys, sorry, I will try to fix it, but could you just do it? Forget it, i'll do it since you seem put out. --Malerooster (talk) 03:15, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok I give up, can you pretty please fix my horrible mistake and slap me with a large trout??? Thanks!! --Malerooster (talk) 03:19, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

thanks for fixing... No issue... Sorry I responded a bit rough... Just don't understand the censorship that is occurring on the Asiana Airlines Flight 214 article. Was hoping that folks would decide to include. Another editor just tried to source the info straight into the article, and I think it is better in the entire context. Sorry.TRL (talk) 03:22, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

No worries. I was struggling with the code so I nuked it all which was not the correct path. I wouldn't call it censorship, its more the old inclusionist vs deletionist crowd. Just because something has a citation, doesn't mean it has to be included, not saying that it might be worthy of inclusion, but hate the aurgument, its sourced so it should be included, that's all. --Malerooster (talk) 03:29, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Malerooster, When you put the code back in you left out two closing curly-braces and it made the code show up on the page. I'm not a coder but I plugged away and figured it out. Now, at least, the code is behind the curtain. Cheers. Checkingfax (talk) 03:59, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

sort of like the Wizard of Oz :), thanks, you saved me from a large trout slapping, carry on! --Malerooster (talk) 04:02, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Tag on SOFvs.GZ article

Hi, I've been working on the State of Florida vs. George Zimmerman article and I noticed that you dropped a tag on the external links section. Would it be possible for you to drop by the talk page and give us a rough idea of your concerns with this section, so we can take a look at it and address those concerns. I'd appreciate your input on this matter, so we can improve that section accordingly. Thanks in advance for your consideration concerning this matter.-- Isaidnoway (talk) 18:02, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

will do. --Malerooster (talk) 19:38, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Removing non-contentious unsourced material

You removed a sentence from the page of Helen Thomas. The sentence was from a source that was used just 2 sentences ahead of that one. Next time, please use a citation needed tag or mention it in the Talk Page unless it is something contentious. It takes much more time to add it back in and also add another reference which is really not needed if the source is already provided earlier and it's non-contentious. If the Misplaced Pages guidelines say differently, feel free to let me know, but that's always been my understanding. - Maximusveritas (talk) 02:56, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

I actually do both, but yes, I could have tagged that one. It still reads a little awkwardly I think. Did she find a nun to help her or was it her actual sister, or was it her husbands sister? Removing unsourced material, even if it is not contentious is not against policy, but I will heed your advice. Thank you, --Malerooster (talk) 03:01, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Place of birth in lead against MOS?

Re this edit: No, I didn't specifically intend to add the place of birth back, I was just trying to revert the WP:BLP violation, but neither did I realize havinig a place of birth in the lead was against some MOS section. Can you please point to the section specifically? --GRuban (talk) 15:51, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi GRuban, no problem, and sorry if I was gruff in my edit summary, I didn't get enough sleep :). I would refer to WP:OPENPARA. Usually we just list dob (and death) after the entries name. Hope this helps, cheers. --Malerooster (talk) 16:15, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Mathematics articles

Hello. At User talk:Jimbo Wales you wrote I ... have to admit that I find math related articles absolutely, err, what word I am I looking for, confusing?? ... I find articles that are "controlled" by so called "experts" in their fields to be very hard to grasp and understand because they are so over the top technical. Perhaps you would like to expand on that, possibly at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Mathematics? Spectral sequence (talk) 18:57, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Spectral sequence. Possibly. Again, I LOVE this project, and I am in academia. A lot of folks in academia look down their noses at Misplaced Pages, but I think that hopefully that is changing, as well it should. Maybe I was being too harsh, but something like the distance formula, which should be d=square root of (delta x² + delta y²) seems to get really really complicated. I feel like I'm a pretty smart guy until I read one of the math articles, and my head explodes :). I'll post something similar over there, but maybe its just this ol bird :) Cheers! --Malerooster (talk) 19:28, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Reviewer?

Hi Malerooster. I've just reviewed one of your edits at Jimmy Fallon, and it occurred to me that it might be a good idea to give you reviewer rights so that you can do that yourself next time. Would you be interested in that? Best — Mr. Stradivarius 07:42, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Mr. Stradivarius, sure, if you think that is a good idea and would help out the project, that would be fine with me. Thank you, --Malerooster (talk) 11:48, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Great, thanks for agreeing to help out. Could you confirm that you have read and understood the points listed at Misplaced Pages:Reviewing#Becoming a reviewer? After you've done that I'll flip the switch for you. — Mr. Stradivarius 11:57, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I read it, and it looks good. Thank you, --Malerooster (talk) 14:18, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok, you are now a reviewer. Let me know if you have any questions about using your new abilities. — Mr. Stradivarius 14:32, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Hello. Your account has been granted the "reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on pages protected by pending changes. The list of articles awaiting review is located at Special:PendingChanges, while the list of articles that have pending changes protection turned on is located at Special:StablePages.

Being granted reviewer rights neither grants you status nor changes how you can edit articles. If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time.

See also:

Ah, a wiki world that is fair and NPOV. I knows its July, but I just made my xmas wish :). Good luck all. Funny, but not funny enough for a humor barnstar, so have a humor 'food' instead. Have a good one. MM (Report findings) 10:05, 2 August 2013 (UTC)