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| ==== Similar Articles of Interest between Januarythe18th and previous socks of Lucyintheskywithdada: ==== | |||
| # Shankar: 195.82.106.244, Januarythe18th | |||
| # Rāja yoga: 195.82.106.244, Januarythe18th, Lucyintheskywithdada | |||
| # Mount Abu: 195.82.106.244, Januarythe18th | |||
| # Kali Yuga: 195.82.106.244, Januarythe18th | |||
| # End time: 195.82.106.244, Every 5000 Years, Januarythe18th, Lucyintheskywithdada, Lwachowski, The Wiki Undead, Time served | |||
| # Dada Lekhraj: Every 5000 Years, Gbkvictory, Januarythe18th, Lucyintheskywithdada, Soulslearn, Taking stock, The Same Every 5000 Years, The Wiki Undead, Time served, Sick to the backteeth | |||
| # Brahmacharya: 195.82.106.244, Januarythe18th | |||
| # Adhyatmik Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalaya: 195.82.106.244, Januarythe18th, Lwachowski, Soulslearn | |||
| ==== Matching phrases said by different socks of Lucyintheskywithdada ==== | |||
| ===== Claiming others want to control a topic ===== | |||
| # 195.82.106.244 - "This whole chapter has merely been the BKWSU attempt to control the article by the misapplication of guidelines and to the ignorance of policy." | |||
| # Lucyintheskywithdada - "An individual that has invested a huge amount of time, effort and admins' energy in attempt to control the topic for his affiliated organization." | |||
| # Lucyintheskywithdada - "...and others, appear to have problems accepting the development of Japanese-Korean topics. He, and a few others, are going to great efforts to control topics at a propagandistic level and censor any wikipedian that threaten that." | |||
| # Januarythe18th - "Fine, if the Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University wants to control this topic..." | |||
| #Januarythe18th - "There is also off Misplaced Pages evidence to suggest that Brahma Kumari adherents are coordinating (''or looking to coordinate'') in order to take control of the topic directly..." | |||
| ===== Defending his own version of the article using almost the same words ===== | |||
| # Lucyintheskywithdada - "# {{article|Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University}} - notable new religious movement, very well referenced topic." | |||
| # Lucyintheskywithdada - "The article is well referenced." (Please also note that the context of the words are intimidation to silence another user, which is one of the most usual patterns of his socks.) | |||
| # 195.82.106.244 - "a very broad, detailed and well referenced article. I cannot see any factual errors." | |||
| # Every 5000 years - "The solution is to topic ban Brahma Kumari adherents from all Brahma Kumari related topics... I do not see much problem with the article the way it was a few Brahma Kumari edits ago. It is all highly accurate and well referenced." | |||
| # Exoneatf - " All he is doing here is attempting to discredit a topic which is accurate, as he knows, and perfectly well referenced." | |||
| # Soulslearn - "The topic is well referenced, do you have any more to add?" | |||
| # Fear based teachings - "There is nothing factually wrong with the topic. It is very well referenced." | |||
| # Emperor of the Golden Age - "The fact remains, the topic is one of the most heavily and well referenced articles on the Misplaced Pages... The topic is also highly accurate." | |||
| # Lwachovski - "It is neither productive nor does not create well referenced articles." | |||
| # Januarythe18th - " I think the reason the article has stabilised is that it is very accurate, complete and well referenced." | |||
| # Januarythe18th - " I have to correct your euphemism. The article is not "under repair". The article is highly accurate, comprehensive and well referenced. It has been reviewed and accepted as being of a suitable standard for the Release Version." | |||
| # Januarythe18th - " However, overall, it is actually highly accurate and well referenced." | |||
| # Januarythe18th - " the article is fair, highly accurate representational, and well referenced... The main topic is comprehensive and complete. Any more work on it is merely going to reintroduce inaccuracies." | |||
| # Januarythe18th - "This page is a mature, stable and very well referenced topic. It has reached this point through the collaboration of many individuals." (please note that what he refers to as "collaboration of many individuals", is actually collaboration of his many past sockpuppets to make the page exactly as he wants it to be). | |||
| There are many further examples of the same kind of discourse, used mainly to intimidate any other user into not interfering with "his" articles at all. | |||
| ==== Accusing other editors of being part of a conspiracy to turn the article into advertising ==== | |||
| # Lucyintheskywithdada - "A wikipedia article is not meant to be an uncritical advert for the subject of each topic." | |||
| # 195.82.106.244 - "Beware, this is not an advert for Brahma Kumari Raja Yoga. This is an objective definition of you and your religion." | |||
| # 195.82.106.244 - "the Wiki is not an advert for your sect." | |||
| # 195.82.106.244 - "Friend, the Misplaced Pages is not an advert or P.R. for your religion." | |||
| # Ex oneatf - "their initially attempt being to maintain as an advert for their religion." | |||
| # Soulslearn - "A Misplaced Pages article is not an advert.Thank you." | |||
| # Januarythe18th - "Perhaps your time and efforts would be better spent getting your own religion to correct its own facts rather than attempting to whitewashing the topic and turn it into a better advert for your religion?" | |||
| # Januarythe18th - "the lede on Misplaced Pages is a summary of the topic which highlights the outstanding characteristics. It's not an advert for the organization. " | |||
| ==== Accusing any consensus of being conspiracy against him ==== | |||
| # Lucyintheskywithdada - "All this talk of "previously agreed" and "consensus" is entirely misleading. What we have are BKWSU followers ... "agreeing" with each other the organization's current PR agenda." | |||
| # Januarythe18th - "what the Brahma Kumaris are doing is trying to use you, and that, to their advantage." | |||
| # Januarythe18th - "your knowledge of the religion is limited and they're deliberately using that, and you" | |||
| ==== Evidence of impersonation and strawman sock to bypass ban sanction ==== | |||
| * Comparison between Januarythe18th early posts and recent posts shows he was pretending to be someone with a very poor english to avoid being banned. Later, his english suddenly improved and an identical behavior to previous socks was adopted. | |||
| * Early posts: | |||
| # Januarythe18th - "I cannot be editing this article yet but I can be seeing no problems in the edits and the article. Too much diservices has been done on this homepage by fanaticals and we should be accepting how the world see us and using the language of the world to explain our beliefs. I am Baba's child." | |||
| # Janaurythe18th - "We are not splinter group we are all original children and part of same family. BrahmKumari Christian fanaticals attack us and remove from this homepage that is clear message. I am Baba's child. (])" | |||
| # Januarythe18th - "History2007 is not knowing anything about Godly Knowledge as taught by ], that is problem. Perhaps he is Christian soul and this is new Knowledge causing him upset but I am not understanding all this BK brother is saying. Too confusing." | |||
| * Recent post with improved english: | |||
| # Januarythe18th - "I'm sorry, we've have a chain of one BK adherent after another come forward and do everything from deleting the page, to making a mess of it's formatting, to continuing on their bitter dispute with the ] splinter group, and so on. Generally they show no commitment whatsoever to bettering the Misplaced Pages as a whole or contributing anything to any other topic, and yet they consume vast amounts of time and energy. In my opinion, they are merely intent on turning this topic into an advert for their religion. In Wikipedian terms, we would call this ] or a ] approach. I apologise if I presumed you were yet another. '''Many even employ a fair poor standard of Indian English.''' " | |||
| ==== Intimidation to frighten any other user away from his articles of interest ==== | |||
| # 195.82.106.244 - "B.K.s beware ! This is a polite warning to followers of Brahma Kumari Raja Yoga ...Beware, this is not an advert for Brahma Kumari Raja Yoga. This is an objective definition of you and your religion. If you are new to Raja Yoga and unsure of what is being written here, please check with your senior sister for accuracy before removing or editing facts. Thank you." | |||
| # Lucyintheskywithdada - "Beware, if you think you have a sense of humour, don't try and use it on the Misplaced Pages. Everything you write can and will be used against you." | |||
| # 125.203.206.45 - "you are making a mistake getting involved on the ] page." | |||
| # Januarythe18th - "Note to new users. This page is a mature, stable and very well referenced topic. It has reached this point through the collaboration of many individuals... Some basic advice. Please discuss changes first." | |||
| # Januarythe18th - "If you have one with the Brahma Kumaris, you are likely to make things worse" | |||
| # Januarythe18th to a new user - "don't waste people's time. We are all volunteers and could be doing better things with it." | |||
| ==== Evidence of Non-Neutral POV ==== | |||
| * Advertising and involvement with heavily biased website. | |||
| ] (]) 20:45, 24 August 2013 (UTC) ] (]) 20:45, 24 August 2013 (UTC) | |||
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Similar Articles of Interest between Januarythe18th and previous socks of Lucyintheskywithdada:
- Shankar: 195.82.106.244, Januarythe18th
- Rāja yoga: 195.82.106.244, Januarythe18th, Lucyintheskywithdada
- Mount Abu: 195.82.106.244, Januarythe18th
- Kali Yuga: 195.82.106.244, Januarythe18th
- End time: 195.82.106.244, Every 5000 Years, Januarythe18th, Lucyintheskywithdada, Lwachowski, The Wiki Undead, Time served
- Dada Lekhraj: Every 5000 Years, Gbkvictory, Januarythe18th, Lucyintheskywithdada, Soulslearn, Taking stock, The Same Every 5000 Years, The Wiki Undead, Time served, Sick to the backteeth
- Brahmacharya: 195.82.106.244, Januarythe18th
- Adhyatmik Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalaya: 195.82.106.244, Januarythe18th, Lwachowski, Soulslearn
Matching phrases said by different socks of Lucyintheskywithdada
Claiming others want to control a topic
- 195.82.106.244 - "This whole chapter has merely been the BKWSU attempt to control the article by the misapplication of guidelines and to the ignorance of policy."
- Lucyintheskywithdada - "An individual that has invested a huge amount of time, effort and admins' energy in attempt to control the topic for his affiliated organization."
- Lucyintheskywithdada - "...and others, appear to have problems accepting the development of Japanese-Korean topics. He, and a few others, are going to great efforts to control topics at a propagandistic level and censor any wikipedian that threaten that."
- Januarythe18th - "Fine, if the Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University wants to control this topic..."
- Januarythe18th - "There is also off Misplaced Pages evidence to suggest that Brahma Kumari adherents are coordinating (or looking to coordinate) in order to take control of the topic directly..."
Defending his own version of the article using almost the same words
- Lucyintheskywithdada - "# Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - notable new religious movement, very well referenced topic."
- Lucyintheskywithdada - "The article is well referenced." (Please also note that the context of the words are intimidation to silence another user, which is one of the most usual patterns of his socks.)
- 195.82.106.244 - "a very broad, detailed and well referenced article. I cannot see any factual errors."
- Every 5000 years - "The solution is to topic ban Brahma Kumari adherents from all Brahma Kumari related topics... I do not see much problem with the article the way it was a few Brahma Kumari edits ago. It is all highly accurate and well referenced."
- Exoneatf - " All he is doing here is attempting to discredit a topic which is accurate, as he knows, and perfectly well referenced."
- Soulslearn - "The topic is well referenced, do you have any more to add?"
- Fear based teachings - "There is nothing factually wrong with the topic. It is very well referenced."
- Emperor of the Golden Age - "The fact remains, the topic is one of the most heavily and well referenced articles on the Misplaced Pages... The topic is also highly accurate."
- Lwachovski - "It is neither productive nor does not create well referenced articles."
- Januarythe18th - " I think the reason the article has stabilised is that it is very accurate, complete and well referenced."
- Januarythe18th - " I have to correct your euphemism. The article is not "under repair". The article is highly accurate, comprehensive and well referenced. It has been reviewed and accepted as being of a suitable standard for the Release Version."
- Januarythe18th - " However, overall, it is actually highly accurate and well referenced."
- Januarythe18th - " the article is fair, highly accurate representational, and well referenced... The main topic is comprehensive and complete. Any more work on it is merely going to reintroduce inaccuracies."
- Januarythe18th - "This page is a mature, stable and very well referenced topic. It has reached this point through the collaboration of many individuals." (please note that what he refers to as "collaboration of many individuals", is actually collaboration of his many past sockpuppets to make the page exactly as he wants it to be).
There are many further examples of the same kind of discourse, used mainly to intimidate any other user into not interfering with "his" articles at all.
Accusing other editors of being part of a conspiracy to turn the article into advertising
- Lucyintheskywithdada - "A wikipedia article is not meant to be an uncritical advert for the subject of each topic."
- 195.82.106.244 - "Beware, this is not an advert for Brahma Kumari Raja Yoga. This is an objective definition of you and your religion."
- 195.82.106.244 - "the Wiki is not an advert for your sect."
- 195.82.106.244 - "Friend, the Misplaced Pages is not an advert or P.R. for your religion."
- Ex oneatf - "their initially attempt being to maintain as an advert for their religion."
- Soulslearn - "A Misplaced Pages article is not an advert.Thank you."
- Januarythe18th - "Perhaps your time and efforts would be better spent getting your own religion to correct its own facts rather than attempting to whitewashing the topic and turn it into a better advert for your religion?"
- Januarythe18th - "the lede on Misplaced Pages is a summary of the topic which highlights the outstanding characteristics. It's not an advert for the organization. "
Accusing any consensus of being conspiracy against him
- Lucyintheskywithdada - "All this talk of "previously agreed" and "consensus" is entirely misleading. What we have are BKWSU followers ... "agreeing" with each other the organization's current PR agenda."
- Januarythe18th - "what the Brahma Kumaris are doing is trying to use you, and that, to their advantage."
- Januarythe18th - "your knowledge of the religion is limited and they're deliberately using that, and you"
Evidence of impersonation and strawman sock to bypass ban sanction
- Comparison between Januarythe18th early posts and recent posts shows he was pretending to be someone with a very poor english to avoid being banned. Later, his english suddenly improved and an identical behavior to previous socks was adopted.
- Early posts:
- Januarythe18th - "I cannot be editing this article yet but I can be seeing no problems in the edits and the article. Too much diservices has been done on this homepage by fanaticals and we should be accepting how the world see us and using the language of the world to explain our beliefs. I am Baba's child."
- Janaurythe18th - "We are not splinter group we are all original children and part of same family. BrahmKumari Christian fanaticals attack us and remove from this homepage that is clear message. I am Baba's child. (my talk)"
- Januarythe18th - "History2007 is not knowing anything about Godly Knowledge as taught by Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University, that is problem. Perhaps he is Christian soul and this is new Knowledge causing him upset but I am not understanding all this BK brother is saying. Too confusing."
- Recent post with improved english:
- Januarythe18th - "I'm sorry, we've have a chain of one BK adherent after another come forward and do everything from deleting the page, to making a mess of it's formatting, to continuing on their bitter dispute with the PBK splinter group, and so on. Generally they show no commitment whatsoever to bettering the Misplaced Pages as a whole or contributing anything to any other topic, and yet they consume vast amounts of time and energy. In my opinion, they are merely intent on turning this topic into an advert for their religion. In Wikipedian terms, we would call this Meatpuppetry or a tag team approach. I apologise if I presumed you were yet another. Many even employ a fair poor standard of Indian English. "
Intimidation to frighten any other user away from his articles of interest
- 195.82.106.244 - "B.K.s beware ! This is a polite warning to followers of Brahma Kumari Raja Yoga ...Beware, this is not an advert for Brahma Kumari Raja Yoga. This is an objective definition of you and your religion. If you are new to Raja Yoga and unsure of what is being written here, please check with your senior sister for accuracy before removing or editing facts. Thank you."
- Lucyintheskywithdada - "Beware, if you think you have a sense of humour, don't try and use it on the Misplaced Pages. Everything you write can and will be used against you."
- 125.203.206.45 - "you are making a mistake getting involved on the BKWSU page."
- Januarythe18th - "Note to new users. This page is a mature, stable and very well referenced topic. It has reached this point through the collaboration of many individuals... Some basic advice. Please discuss changes first."
- Januarythe18th - "If you have one with the Brahma Kumaris, you are likely to make things worse"
- Januarythe18th to a new user - "don't waste people's time. We are all volunteers and could be doing better things with it."
Evidence of Non-Neutral POV
GreyWinterOwl (talk) 20:45, 24 August 2013 (UTC) GreyWinterOwl (talk) 20:45, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
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