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	What are you doing with the rampant {{tl\|db-f7}} tagging? I've found tons of images in the last couple of days that you tagged as F7 completely wrongly: images such as ] and ], for example, are periodical covers that we include for the same reasons that we include newspaper images on their articles. Attempting to have logos such as ] deleted (when they're being used as logos) is unhelpful and not in line with NFCC, while imagse such as ] should be tagged with one of the time-delayed processes. ] (]) 01:23, 5 October 2013 (UTC)		What are you doing with the rampant {{tl\|db-f7}} tagging? I've found tons of images in the last couple of days that you tagged as F7 completely wrongly: images such as ] and ], for example, are periodical covers that we include for the same reasons that we include newspaper images on their articles. Attempting to have logos such as ] deleted (when they're being used as logos) is unhelpful and not in line with NFCC, while imagse such as ] should be tagged with one of the time-delayed processes. ] (]) 01:23, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
	:Well, what I'm doing with the "ramping" {{tl\|db-f7}} tagging is electing photos for deletion, if you didn't know. Just in case you haven't noticed, the two files you just mentioned, they have magazine licenses, and it's not even a magazine, there journal covers, and we all know that magazines and journals are not the same. Also, for the third file, the file had a rationale and a non-copyright license, that's why it was elected for deletion. --<small><small><span style="border:1px solid black; background-color: #EFCA37; background-image: -ms-radial-gradient(center top, circle closest-side, #FFAA3B 0%, #E3B536 0%, #EFCA37 100%); background-image: -moz-radial-gradient(center top, circle closest-side, #FFAA3B 0%, #E3B536 0%, #EFCA37 100%); background-image: -o-radial-gradient(center top, circle closest-side, #FFAA3B 0%, #E3B536 0%, #EFCA37 100%); background-image: -webkit-gradient(radial, center top, 0, center top, 0, color-stop(0, #FFAA3B), color-stop(0, #E3B536), color-stop(1, #EFCA37)); background-image: -webkit-radial-gradient(center top, circle closest-side, #FFAA3B 0%, #E3B536 0%, #EFCA37 100%); background-image: radial-gradient(circle closest-side at center top, #FFAA3B 0%, #E3B536 0%, #EFCA37 100%);padding:4px;">] ]</span></small></small> 02:07, 5 October 2013 (UTC)		:Well, what I'm doing with the "ramping" {{tl\|db-f7}} tagging is electing photos for deletion, if you didn't know. Just in case you haven't noticed, the two files you just mentioned, they have magazine licenses, and it's not even a magazine, there journal covers, and we all know that magazines and journals are not the same. Also, for the third file, the file had a rationale and a non-copyright license, that's why it was elected for deletion. --<small><small><span style="border:1px solid black; background-color: #EFCA37; background-image: -ms-radial-gradient(center top, circle closest-side, #FFAA3B 0%, #E3B536 0%, #EFCA37 100%); background-image: -moz-radial-gradient(center top, circle closest-side, #FFAA3B 0%, #E3B536 0%, #EFCA37 100%); background-image: -o-radial-gradient(center top, circle closest-side, #FFAA3B 0%, #E3B536 0%, #EFCA37 100%); background-image: -webkit-gradient(radial, center top, 0, center top, 0, color-stop(0, #FFAA3B), color-stop(0, #E3B536), color-stop(1, #EFCA37)); background-image: -webkit-radial-gradient(center top, circle closest-side, #FFAA3B 0%, #E3B536 0%, #EFCA37 100%); background-image: radial-gradient(circle closest-side at center top, #FFAA3B 0%, #E3B536 0%, #EFCA37 100%);padding:4px;">] ]</span></small></small> 02:07, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
			::Um, I'm an admin and well aware of what you're doing. These images are not the blatantly bad uses for which F7 is intended: you're giving uploaders no substantial amount of time to fix them. You must tag these images for slower deletion, take them to ], or not tag them at all; seeking to have them deleted instantly for small flaws is ] and must not continue. ] (]) 02:16, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

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Move of Shediac-Cap-Pelé to Shediac-Beaubassin-Cap-Pelé

Actually, if you will check the edit summary from my move, you'll see that I did give a reason - the electoral district was renamed from Shediac-Cap-Pelé to Shediac-Beaubassin-Cap-Pelé. For source please see or the article on it New Brunswick electoral redistribution, 2013. Can you please move the article back to Shediac-Beaubassin-Cap-Pelé where it belongs? - Nbpolitico (talk) 01:13, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

The move I made has been reverted, thank you for providing information, convincing be to bring it back the was it was. --Blurred Lines 01:24, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

If you're in the mood for moving pages, would you mind moving Moncton West to Moncton South? It used to be Moncton South, before being renamed Moncton West, and has now been renamed Moncton South again. Thanks! - Nbpolitico (talk) 01:49, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

You're gonna have to provide me a source that it was changed back to its regular name before I can do that. --Blurred Lines 02:31, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Same links as above, but you can see and for clarity. - Nbpolitico (talk) 14:34, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Since the page was already moved by request to WP:RM, this discussion is now over. --Blurred Lines 19:54, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Non-free Photo

Greetings. You left a message on my talk page about a photo that I uploaded. I uploaded that by mistake, I later uploaded a better version. Please delete this File:SpiderScribe Logo.jpg Jacob Pabst (talk) 16:41, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

The file is already planned for deletion, as you may recall looking at the file. --Blurred Lines 19:47, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Misapplication of CSD

Please note that at least a few of your CSDs on images are not appropriate, and you probably need to review what NFCC allows and what CSD requires before application:

has an appropriate license, PD-textlogo. So the CSD is patently false.
, which you used CSD F7 on which claims the image comes from a Commercial Source, is wrongly applied. We consider a Commercial Source to be a commercial entity that sells images for their livelihood, eg AP, Getty Images. Other images that may come from commercial entities but as part of their product are not considered coming from a commercial source. So this tag is wrong.

Some of your more recent CSDs are correctly applied, but these two stood out immediately on the your latest contributions. --MASEM (t) 18:18, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

First link you gave me, the CSD is not false. The file has a non free rationale, so that means that if the file has a rationale, and a non copyright license, it is considered for CSD.

Also for the second link, you currently have the video game cover license when you described that the image is a logo. A video game cover license on a logo is invalid. If you get a chance, replace the license with the logo license, so it won't be deleted. --Blurred Lines 19:43, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

A file is non-free if it has a non-free copyright tag. {{PD-textlogo}} is not a non-free copyright tag, so File:HSBC new logo.jpg is not a non-free file. Free files should not have fair use rationales, but that is a separate matter. If a free file has a fair use rationale, then this should be converted to an {{Information}} template instead. This takes time, so it is not always done when a file has been mistagged and since corrected.

F3 means that the file is available under a licence which is non-commercial, non-derivative or only allows Misplaced Pages but no one else to use the image. It also says that the speedy deletion tag can be used for files which only are licensed under GFDL 1.2, but I don't think I have seen the tag used for such files. The file File:HSBC new logo.jpg does not have any such copyright tag, so the tagging is patently false.

WP:CSD#F7 tells that F7 may be used for "images or media with a clearly invalid fair-use tag (such as a {{Non-free logo}} tag on a photograph of a mascot)". The copyright tag claims that the image shows cover art although it clearly shows a logo, so the image seems to have a clearly invalid fair use tag per the formulation at WP:CSD#F7, so {{db-f7}} might technically be correct, but I would recommend correcting the tag instead as logos typically are allowed in cases like this. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:00, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Raymond L.S. Patriarca Rhode Island State Police I.D. photo

Please explain to me in the case of

how a Rhode Island State Police photo, which is a public record until Rhode Island Title 38, which furthermore lacks a copyright symbol and was made prior to 1989 (Patriarca died in 1984) and thus was not copyrighted is NOT public domain. I am a legal editor by profession. I would really like to know. Rhode Island has no copyright law, per se, since 1783, and its statutes pertaining to copyright are minimal, to say the least.Shemp Howard, Jr. (talk) 00:32, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

I don't mean to sound snide -- I'd like to know! That way, I won't waste any one's time in the future. P.S. I have no idea when the son's photo was made so you see I'm not contesting that.Shemp Howard, Jr. (talk) 00:38, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Keep up the good work! Shemp Howard, Jr. (talk) 00:38, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Image tagging

What are you doing with the rampant {{db-f7}} tagging? I've found tons of images in the last couple of days that you tagged as F7 completely wrongly: images such as File:IJMScover.jpg and File:Diplomatic History.jpg, for example, are periodical covers that we include for the same reasons that we include newspaper images on their articles. Attempting to have logos such as File:Cavitysearchrecordslogo.png deleted (when they're being used as logos) is unhelpful and not in line with NFCC, while imagse such as File:JERICHO - SAISON 1.jpg should be tagged with one of the time-delayed processes. Nyttend (talk) 01:23, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Well, what I'm doing with the "ramping" {{db-f7}} tagging is electing photos for deletion, if you didn't know. Just in case you haven't noticed, the two files you just mentioned, they have magazine licenses, and it's not even a magazine, there journal covers, and we all know that magazines and journals are not the same. Also, for the third file, the file had a rationale and a non-copyright license, that's why it was elected for deletion. --Blurred Lines 02:07, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Um, I'm an admin and well aware of what you're doing. These images are not the blatantly bad uses for which F7 is intended: you're giving uploaders no substantial amount of time to fix them. You must tag these images for slower deletion, take them to WP:FFD, or not tag them at all; seeking to have them deleted instantly for small flaws is disruptive and must not continue. Nyttend (talk) 02:16, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

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	What are you doing with the rampant {{tl\|db-f7}} tagging? I've found tons of images in the last couple of days that you tagged as F7 completely wrongly: images such as ] and ], for example, are periodical covers that we include for the same reasons that we include newspaper images on their articles. Attempting to have logos such as ] deleted (when they're being used as logos) is unhelpful and not in line with NFCC, while imagse such as ] should be tagged with one of the time-delayed processes. ] (]) 01:23, 5 October 2013 (UTC)		What are you doing with the rampant {{tl\|db-f7}} tagging? I've found tons of images in the last couple of days that you tagged as F7 completely wrongly: images such as ] and ], for example, are periodical covers that we include for the same reasons that we include newspaper images on their articles. Attempting to have logos such as ] deleted (when they're being used as logos) is unhelpful and not in line with NFCC, while imagse such as ] should be tagged with one of the time-delayed processes. ] (]) 01:23, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
	:Well, what I'm doing with the "ramping" {{tl\|db-f7}} tagging is electing photos for deletion, if you didn't know. Just in case you haven't noticed, the two files you just mentioned, they have magazine licenses, and it's not even a magazine, there journal covers, and we all know that magazines and journals are not the same. Also, for the third file, the file had a rationale and a non-copyright license, that's why it was elected for deletion. --<small><small><span style="border:1px solid black; background-color: #EFCA37; background-image: -ms-radial-gradient(center top, circle closest-side, #FFAA3B 0%, #E3B536 0%, #EFCA37 100%); background-image: -moz-radial-gradient(center top, circle closest-side, #FFAA3B 0%, #E3B536 0%, #EFCA37 100%); background-image: -o-radial-gradient(center top, circle closest-side, #FFAA3B 0%, #E3B536 0%, #EFCA37 100%); background-image: -webkit-gradient(radial, center top, 0, center top, 0, color-stop(0, #FFAA3B), color-stop(0, #E3B536), color-stop(1, #EFCA37)); background-image: -webkit-radial-gradient(center top, circle closest-side, #FFAA3B 0%, #E3B536 0%, #EFCA37 100%); background-image: radial-gradient(circle closest-side at center top, #FFAA3B 0%, #E3B536 0%, #EFCA37 100%);padding:4px;">] ]</span></small></small> 02:07, 5 October 2013 (UTC)		:Well, what I'm doing with the "ramping" {{tl\|db-f7}} tagging is electing photos for deletion, if you didn't know. Just in case you haven't noticed, the two files you just mentioned, they have magazine licenses, and it's not even a magazine, there journal covers, and we all know that magazines and journals are not the same. Also, for the third file, the file had a rationale and a non-copyright license, that's why it was elected for deletion. --<small><small><span style="border:1px solid black; background-color: #EFCA37; background-image: -ms-radial-gradient(center top, circle closest-side, #FFAA3B 0%, #E3B536 0%, #EFCA37 100%); background-image: -moz-radial-gradient(center top, circle closest-side, #FFAA3B 0%, #E3B536 0%, #EFCA37 100%); background-image: -o-radial-gradient(center top, circle closest-side, #FFAA3B 0%, #E3B536 0%, #EFCA37 100%); background-image: -webkit-gradient(radial, center top, 0, center top, 0, color-stop(0, #FFAA3B), color-stop(0, #E3B536), color-stop(1, #EFCA37)); background-image: -webkit-radial-gradient(center top, circle closest-side, #FFAA3B 0%, #E3B536 0%, #EFCA37 100%); background-image: radial-gradient(circle closest-side at center top, #FFAA3B 0%, #E3B536 0%, #EFCA37 100%);padding:4px;">] ]</span></small></small> 02:07, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
			::Um, I'm an admin and well aware of what you're doing. These images are not the blatantly bad uses for which F7 is intended: you're giving uploaders no substantial amount of time to fix them. You must tag these images for slower deletion, take them to ], or not tag them at all; seeking to have them deleted instantly for small flaws is ] and must not continue. ] (]) 02:16, 5 October 2013 (UTC)