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RE: Bagrat

gtabroker

https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Gtabroker

I've rewritten it all... and removed all bias sounding or self promoting material. whats left is neutral toned facts. how can i send it to you for your review prior to creating a new page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gtabroker (talk • contribs) 14:27, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

OK - but there's a bit more to it. Does it comply with WP:CORP for notability, with reliable independent sources WP:RS to prove it? If you're sure it passes those and WP:SPAM, post it at User:Gtabroker/DRAFT FOR CHECKING and let me know. PS I would advise going to WP:CHU to change your user name. I'm trying to work out why you haven't been blocked yet for having a name that appears to represent an organisation. Must have been some reason why I didn't. Scroll down to Simple and tell them you need a change for that reason. Peridon (talk) 16:51, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

2 blocked editors

Commented on my talk page. --Anthony Bradbury 21:20, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

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• EdwardsBot (talk) 02:08, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Redirects

Maybe I don't understand something... You see, the articles can be turned into a stub and I got plenty of source to prove it, but I don't want to do it over someone else's work (I just feel that I wont get recognized by WikiProject Ballet for just doing an overdo). For example: Yekaterina Shipulina wasn't a redirect so I clearly wrote the article without that hassle. Its strange that Misplaced Pages allows so many redirects and when people wanted to remove it they revert it. And another thing, I am shocked that instead of helping me with improving those articles: Gary Alan Nelson and Steve Nicklas the guys propose deletions, while its perfectly fine to revert a redirect removal, care to explain?!--Mishae (talk) 18:51, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps I don't... I can't see any objection in turning a redir into an article so long as it fits the standards, blah, blah. Or in creating an article in your user space and then getting the redir deleted to make way for a move. What you can't do is use an invalid criterion to get deletion. That's why Malik and I reverted your tags. If you get your stuff all ready in user space, then there's the options of either c/p it into the redir, or of requesting a move over it. I don't know the people at the Project, but I can't see them objecting to this, either way they gain an article. Redirects have two main functions. One is to cope with typos and alternative spellings and different names. The other is as a sort of place holder for something that's not got its own article, either because it's not notable by itself, or because no-one's written it yet - but it might be searched for. I've no idea on the other two things - I'm just going offline and will try to look at them tomorrow. Peridon (talk) 19:11, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

BTW you really need something more than the ballet's profile - that will pass BLP but for safety get something independent. Peridon (talk) 19:13, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for an advise, I will do it in my mainspace then...--Mishae (talk) 19:19, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Delete Page: HeavenGuild's Gaming

Why you Delete my article HeavenGuild's Gaming, Kids make this page, Do you know bi*ch? If you don't restore my page I will delete your page OK? -Please reply to me within 24 hours- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikisafety (talk • contribs) 07:58, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Talk:La Prensa Hispana

I disagree with the deletion of Talk:La Prensa Hispana as a G8. It was clearly a misguided attempt to create an article page, not a talk page. However, I tried unsuccessfully to get the good people at AfC to come up with a process, such as move to an AfC page. It wasn't much of an article, so I don't want to sweat it, but I think it is bad process to delete as a G8.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 15:55, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

I very nearly added G11 to the reasons - it looked rather promotional to me. You're welcome to undelete it if you wish. Can't it be moved to AfC? Peridon (talk) 16:00, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

I only glanced at the content, and didn't see anything worth saving, but if I were an IP, and tried to contribute to Misplaced Pages, then found my submission blown away with no explanation, it wouldn't be a good start. As for copy to AfC space, is it as simple as moving?--SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:27, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

I posted a plea at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation#How_to_handle_an_IP_attempt_to_create_an_article_in_Talk_space--SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:41, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

I've appended myself to your plea - I was just trying to find out how it was done myself. Peridon (talk) 16:54, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Good. I'm rather miffed about the process fail, and when I am miffed I am told that sometimes it shows. If it shows, please be aware that I am miffed at the process, not you.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 19:26, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

I rather get the impression that the person answering wasn't listening to what was being asked. There might be a chance of a sensible answer from Anne Delong. She's always struck me as being more practical than some of them at AfC. Peridon (talk) 20:07, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Help with notability

Hey there! :-) You said to ask - I am reading this page about a writer and I would think 2 books through big houses would be notable but I'm not certain since the WP:AUTHOR seems quite tough. And as I've previously established I'm not good at notability recognition! What's your take? Claire Cameron (writer)--Antiqueight 20:36, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Only one book so far - one's not out yet. But I'd say notable. Regular publisher, an award, second book signed up for worldwide distribution - looks fairly good. What I don't like are the refs, and I've tagged it for that. Some are site links, not specific citation links, too many look non-independent. AUTHOR is almost impossible for lower levels than J.K. Rowling, Terry Pratchett or Charles Dickens. Something like this will do, to my mind. A first book published by the Donkey Flats Press and a second being written wouldn't. Not without about two pages of refs and a check that it wasn't an elaborate hoax even then. With all these guidelines, you have to be reasonable. If a pro footballer gets an article for one game as a pro in a pro league, then a writer like our topic should get one too. (With books, the level has to be assessed by us. A pro footballer in a pro league is assumed to be at a higher level than Thursday Evening League in Much Twittering, where they have difficulty raising the tea money let alone paying anyone... I hope that's helped. If not, Cindamuse or MelanieN might explain better. They're not admins (yet...) but they've got a lot of clue and content experience. And they like helping people. Peridon (talk) 20:59, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

You're a star - that does help. Thank you.--Antiqueight 21:10, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

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• EdwardsBot (talk) 14:31, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

More advice

You reverted my edit, saying that you were "open for more advice". I'm not sure if you're aware, but the {{helpme}} template causes a link to the page it's on to cycle through #wikipedia-en-helpers every twenty minutes. {{helpme-helped}} is one of a few templates that removes the page from this cycle.

Instead of giving more advice to the person you helped out, I'll give you some advice: You seemed very clear to me, and ultimately, the person you helped is the best judge of whether or not they need more help. That's the main reason I'm partially reverting you. --I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 19:00, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. You've got more confidence in my advice than I had... Peridon (talk) 19:11, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

I had a feeling German WP had different rules. Thanks for leaving the helpme up for further view to be given, too. Fiddle Faddle 15:33, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

I usually like to get another opinion - I'm not the voice of God, merely a passing angel. And other angels may know more than me... <8-) Peridon (talk) 15:40, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Flap those wings, Angel Boy! (Or Angel Girl, I haven't checked!!) Fiddle Faddle 15:43, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Read My User Page... Peridon (talk) 15:45, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Zipwhip

Hi Peridon.

I'm writing you because of the notice on the page I created called Zipwhip. Can you please remove the notice? Thank you. Thanks for the notice above, too, on your 'talk' page Tolberg jeremy (talk) 19:38, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Enjoy Tolberg jeremy (talk) 19:40, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Shabba

Hello, Peridon. Another administrator, Alex Shih, deleted Shabba; could you please restore it because Alex Shih has not responded to my messages despite having edited since I put it there; I plan on putting a disambiguation page at that title, and I'd like to see what was there before I do so? Thank you.--Launchballer 10:09, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

It's variously been a redirect to Shabba Ranks and rubbish. It was deleted to make way for an uncontroversial move of something, which seems not to have gone ahead. Just recreate it. Nothing worth restoring. (The rubbish isn't even worth looking at. Sometimes you find something funny, but not here. It was back in 2005 anyway.) Peridon (talk) 10:23, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Pol430 talk to me 15:41, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Yes, but...

I agree with this, but see User talk:Renatofrart#October 2013. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 21:35, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Commented there. Peridon (talk) 16:25, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Delete Page: Touchtalent

I dont see why Touchtalent should not have a wikipedia page. Its the most active community for artists in South East Asia and deserves a wiki page. I guess it was not written in the right manner. Give me few days I'll write it in an appropriate way with proper links to media articles. I'm recreating the page. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amitbisai (talk • contribs) 17:50, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

I've moved your post down to where it should be. Also, please sign talk page posts with four ~ things to put your sig and the datestamp on. So long as notability is shown WP:WEB and referenced in reliable independent sources WP:RS, there's no problem. I advise doing it at User:Amitbisai/DRAFT to start with. This stops the patrollers tagging it for lack of notability before you've finished. (They can tag there for advertising, though...) Then, when you think it's ready, ask someone like MelanieN or Cindamuse for an opinion. Peridon (talk) 18:04, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I am new. Learning fast and doing things. thanks for help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amitbisai (talk • contribs) 19:03, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

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• EdwardsBot (talk) 23:06, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Unblock request

The conversation you were having here seems to have stalled. I'm hesitant to unblock given the replies so far, but would hate for this editor to remain blocked if they can demonstrate an understanding of the COI guidelines. Your thoughts?--Jezebel'sPonyo 21:58, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

My thought is that we aren't getting anywhere. Unfortunately. I think he now understands not to link his company, but is there anything else to link? I've little objection to people writing about their own fields so long as they keep to the rules. Perhaps if you pop in and comment favourably about 'unblocking if...' it might stir things up a bit. Peridon (talk) 09:43, 19 October 2013 (UTC)