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Despite T360488 asking them not to, Toolforge admins have gone ahead and broken AnomieBOT's scripts. Keeping things running properly will likely require manual intervention until they fix that or give me a usable workaround.

If you want AnomieBOT to do something, please ask at User talk:AnomieBOT. Thanks.

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User:Anomie/previewtemplatelastmod.js

Hi, User:Anomie/previewtemplatelastmod.js no longer works in MonoBook skin. Is there any possibility of fixing it? --Redrose64 (talk) 21:16, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

It's working for me, I use Monobook (and FireFox 24.0, currently). Note you have to open the collapsing box to see the template list now. Are you getting any JS errors? Anomie⚔ 10:32, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

It's working now that I've found out how to avoid forced https. (btw: MonoBook, Firefox 23.0.1) --Redrose64 (talk) 17:33, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

I've used HTTPS Everywhere ever since I passed RfA, and it has always worked fine for me. Error messages would be helpful to try to actually fix whatever the problem is instead of just avoiding it. Anomie⚔ 19:33, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

I didn't see any error messages. I knew that it wasn't working because the "Pages transcluded onto the current version of this page:" list, after expansion, was displayed exactly the same as it does when previewtemplatelastmod.js is not enabled: alphabetic by namespace & page name, each entry consisting of page name, edit link, prot level. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:02, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

PUF closer in one edit?

Hey Anomie, would it be possible to have the PUF closer try and close all the discussions that it can on a page in one edit? Right now I get quite a few echo notifications every time I delete a file :P If it's possible, that would be great. Thanks, Legoktm (talk) 07:16, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

It does already: it runs once per hour, and closes anything that was deleted more than an hour ago. So unless you take a long time to delete things or you get unlucky and delete some files just before the bot's "hour" and some just after, it should already be one edit.

For example, this morning AnomieBOT closed 4 discussions in one edit on Misplaced Pages:Possibly unfree files/2013 August 6 and 3 in one edit on Misplaced Pages:Possibly unfree files/2013 August 7. It would be nice if they'd fix Template:Bug though. Anomie⚔ 10:42, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

My bad, you're right. Seems like its a bug in echo since I got a notification for each mention, even though they were in the same edit... Legoktm (talk) 21:11, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Filed as bugzilla:53607. Legoktm (talk) 22:43, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Automaniac14th (talk) 00:36, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Albert Coons

I am the author of the above-cited article. Your bot recently inserted a statement that a section of the piece was unreferenced, whereas it does contain several references and always has done so. I do not think the bot label is warranted.

Thanks.Mrwick1 (talk) 17:04, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

@Mrwick1: Comments belong on user talk pages, not user pages.

If you look closely at AnomieBOT's edit, you'll see that all the bot did was add |date=September 2013 to the tags that were added by 70.134.228.107 (talk · contribs) in the previous edit. You'll want to talk to that person about it. Anomie⚔ 18:03, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

AnomieBOT appears to have stopped editing

Hi Brad - hope you're doing well. Just letting you know that AnomieBOT seems to have stopped editing as of about an hour ago. Any idea what the problem is? — Mr. Stradivarius 13:41, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

It appears that all of Tool Labs is down; there is mention on the mailing list that NFS is having trouble of some sort. Anomie⚔ 13:52, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Of timelines and admonishments

True enough, o wise master of my second-favorite bot, and the general thrust of your closing comment is well taken. I must say I found the wording you used a little disproportionate, however. Last I checked, admonishment is the sort of thing that Arbcom does to habitual problem users they're not quite ready to ban, not the routine response of one longterm editor to another after an atypical misstep. My reply to the IP was intended only to be gently ironic, and I'm dismayed that it may have come across as bitey or belittling. I don't believe anyone has ever suggested that about anything I've written on a talk page before, so either my judgment has suddenly gone south and I need to apologize (hard to do now that you've closed the thread) and take a wikibreak or else you're reading into my words a tone and/or an intent that wasn't there. I wish I knew which it was. In either case, you may be assured that I regret letting my perfect façade down and being all too human, if only momentarily. I'll certainly think twice next time. Rivertorch (talk) 04:32, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry if I read into your comment something that wasn't there, and for using the word "admonish" in the sense of its general English definition without considering the specialized definition used on-wiki at ArbCom which was not my intention at all. I've made plenty of ill-considered comments in my time too (and I'm sure I will again, as hard as I try). I do think you came across harsher than you intended there, though.

As for closing the thread, after the second comment there I decided it was unlikely to gather any constructive discussion and I wanted to prevent a pile-on. Anomie⚔ 12:40, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

I have struck my comment—a procedural no-no but (I hope) a lesser evil than leaving it in place. Thank you for your measured reply. Rivertorch (talk) 05:34, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

The Progressive Barnstar

		The Progressive Barnstar
		I couldn't find a barnstar that would adequately thank those involved in making the template editor user right RFC a reality, so I created this new one. The Progressive Barnstar recognizes those courageous enough to work towards a vision for change at Misplaced Pages. Anomie, thank you for your insights into the technical feasibility of this proposal. I consider it a success at this point, no matter what the eventual outcome, and I thank you. equazcion 06:28, 18 Sep 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Should it pass, I may well end up putting together the configuration change to implement it, too. Anomie⚔ 00:44, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure, and that would indeed be awesome of you, if it does pass (I don't want to jinx it :) ) equazcion 01:05, 19 Sep 2013 (UTC)

Template sandbox (gerrit:83389)

It's been a week since gerrit:83389, just so you know. Jackmcbarn (talk) 21:50, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me. Anomie⚔ 00:40, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Linkclassifier bug

The links Template:Helpme, Template:R from an incomplete name, and Template:R from full name get the "deletion" class added to them. Why is this? My first thought was it was all template redirects, but Template:db-userreq doesn't get it. Jackmcbarn (talk) 18:55, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Apparently the job queue is behind in processing this edit, so the API is still returning Category:Templates for deletion for Template-namespace pages using that template. Anomie⚔ 19:07, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

I take it https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=statistics is wrong then? (It claims 0 jobs.) Jackmcbarn (talk) 19:34, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)Yes. The job queue has been horribly broken for months. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 19:37, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Not the same thing, probably. Anomie⚔ 19:42, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes. Looks like that's already filed as Template:Bug. Anomie⚔ 19:42, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Wow...

I didn't even realize you were still around until I got that thanks from you. How have you been, Anomie? Red Phoenix _{remember the past...} 02:50, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Heh, I was writing a message for you on your talk page when I saw the Echo notification. ;) So I'll just reply here.

I've been good. I pretty much quit working on video game articles a few years ago, after it seemed clear that no one else cared about a handful of editors pushing unreliable sources and OR with a pro-Genesis POV. I hope your edit sticks. As for myself, I took a few wikibreaks, became much more of a WikiGnome, an exciting new job, and generally been much more in the background. As far as VG articles go, all I really do anymore is update the sales figures for Nintendo consoles when they release their quarterly reports and occasionally revert obvious vandalism (this edit is what made me look at the Genesis article, BTW). How've you been?

Once you're finished with Genesis, maybe you should take a look at the SNES article. Personally I think it was gutted back in July, although there were POV edits even before then. Hell, there were POV edits even back when I was still caring about it (i.e. someone would make an edit based on unreliable/misinterpreted sources or SYN, I'd object, and we'd usually end up with something half reliably sourced and half based on poor sources; see talk archives). OTOH, I make no claims to being a particularly great content writer either, either today or 6 years ago (wow, that long?). Anomie⚔ 03:51, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, six years... wow. I retired mid-2008 after Misplaced Pages caused my grades in college to take a hit... let's just say it's not good when you spend six hours a day working on a Misplaced Pages article and having those same arguments and waiting for their replies instead of doing your homework. I just came back in May of this year, graduated from college a year ago and now have a job completely irrelevant to my field. Congrats on getting a job with the Foundation, that's pretty awesome. Lately, I've still been very focused on Sega articles when I have time on Misplaced Pages, and completely gutted and rewrote Sega v. Accolade, Sega CD, Sega 32X, Sega Game Gear, and spent most of my weekend doing that with Sega Genesis... the entire article I pretty much redid in the last 48 hours, so it's not just one edit I'm hoping sticks. I also wrote and self-published a fantasy fiction novel, and I'm writing a second, so that's pretty exciting.

I'm not too sure where I'm going to go next except that I'm pretty sure my edits have all but made the Genesis article FA-worthy, save for sourcing on the Korean version (imagine how hard that is to find, ha ha), so a GA nomination and FA candidacy for that are next. For an FA, I looked at the SNES article, and... yeah, I'm a little concerned, too. As it stands, it definitely needs to be sured up. I'd love to try and expand out of video games some, too, but I'm not really too sure where I'd go from there. Red Phoenix _{remember the past...} 04:15, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

@Red Phoenix: Congrats on the GA. I'm disappointed to see that the WP:SYN sales numbers are back in the article, though. That "detailed history" adding North American sales to 20.4 is exactly what I was referring to in this comment, and I still think it's funny we assume every major US source somehow picked up sales figures from some obscure German magazine and supposedly never looked for more up-to-date numbers since. Oh well. Anomie⚔ 21:55, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Now, if you think I'm done with this article, you're wrong, Anomie. This is one of the factors already on my hitlist on the pathway to a FA, which I don't think we're too far away from. My list is at Talk:Sega Genesis, and we'll still be working on this article, including opening the name debate one more time (fun!) with the intent that we finally have the article to settle it once and for all, and at least break the 50/50 tie that keeps resulting. Sales figure issues are not a forgotten issue on this, mark my words. Red Phoenix _{remember the past...} 22:03, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

PERtable not updating

Hi again. I just noticed that User:AnomieBOT/PERTable hasn't been updated since 16:37 yesterday. Any idea what the matter is? (And also, it looks like I am becoming a repeat customer here - just goes to show how much I miss AnomieBOT on the rare occasions that it goes out of commission. :) — Mr. Stradivarius 09:41, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Looks like it's started up again now. — Mr. Stradivarius 13:07, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

First there was scheduled maintenance on Tool Labs that took far longer than anticipated (see the mailing list thread starting at http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/labs-l/2013-October/001748.html). Then when the maintenance was over, there were some hiccups that caused some of AnomieBOT's tasks to not automatically restart. Anomie⚔ 13:23, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Wow, those are some impressive numbers... thanks for sorting it out. — Mr. Stradivarius 13:38, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

BOT

Hello, I need help from you. After making a bot account for test, I have checked it & it worked well using clean_sandbox.py & editarticle.py & clean_sandbox.py on ar.wikipedia.org. Now Im trying to create articles using pagefromfile.py, but I dont know how to use imported data to EXCEL 2007 for do it. look at this:, Explanation not clear to me. If you have some time to Shed some light on the subject I will be very Grateful. Thank you alot --عراقي1 (talk) 06:20, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know anything about pywikipedia, and I don't speak/read Arabic. Anomie⚔ 11:34, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

AnomieBOT question

Could you go to the "NRIS-only pages" section of User talk:Dudemanfellabra and offer a comment? Dudemanfellabra is curious how the bot knows where to find references for edits such as this one; he's not saying that your bot has made a mistake. He's been talking about trying to write a bot on an unrelated task, so perhaps your comment would be able to help him. Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 20:05, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

 Done Anomie⚔ 20:46, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the help! Nyttend (talk) 01:14, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

New REFBot

There is a suggestion on Misplaced Pages:Bot requests#New REFBot for a new REFBot working as DPL bot and BracketBot do. I beg politely for consideration. Please leave a comment if you wish. Maybe you could work on it like you did it with other projects? That would be fine. Thanks a lot in anticipation. -- Frze (talk · contribs) 10:18, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Bot counting error?

What in the world happened here? Supposedly the guy has -1 deleted edits (according to the bot: 117 live edits, -1 deleted, so 116 total), so I suspect some sort of error; if it's correct, I'd love to know how one can get negative numbers of edits :-) Nyttend (talk) 02:18, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

The bot doesn't actually have access to the count of deleted edits. The edit count reported in Special:Preferences (which is also retrievable for any user via the API) includes both deleted and non-deleted edits though, so the bot can take that number and subtract the number of non-deleted edits (and also adjust for the dummy edits added by page moves and such, which don't increment the Special:Preferences count) to estimate the number of deleted edits.

In this case, probably what happened is that he made an edit between when the bot fetched his total edit count and when it counted his visible edits. Anomie⚔ 16:55, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you - task 71

Many thanks for the great job your bot is doing, creating talk page redirects for template documentation, etc. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:27, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

exceptions

Hi,

How do i get Anomie (not sure which bot) to not do this?

— kwami (talk) 03:32, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

That wasn't a bot. That was Anomie the human. Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:36, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that was me the human cleaning up a problem you caused by copying-and-pasting a template into the article. I won't revert your reverts, but remember that the reason we have maintenance templates is to avoid confusing less-technical users by putting large blobs of code in the article like that. At the very least, go fix the fact that all those articles are back in Category:Articles with invalid date parameter in template. Anomie⚔ 13:01, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Okay, fixing the dates. I'll be happy to use the template if it will support what we need to say, that there's a commonly cited ref that's being used but is inadequate. — kwami (talk) 20:54, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Would it be acceptable to you if {{Refimprove|reason=Blah blah blah.}} displayed text along the lines of "This article needs additional citations for verification. Relevant discussion may be found on the talk page. Blah blah blah. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed.", or something along those lines? Anomie⚔ 00:38, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

T: template redirects

Hi, you participated in Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 December 29#T:, some of which I have relisted at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 November_18#T:WPTECH. Please come along and share your thoughts .. ;-) John Vandenberg 15:39, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

wikt:Wiktionary:Grease pit/2013/November#Module:languages

Hi anomie,

If you have the time and inclination, your input would be welcome at wikt:Wiktionary:Grease pit/2013/November#Module:languages, where we are discussing reorganizing our language metadata. (Qgil named you and Ori.livneh as good people to ask "about modules and performance".)

Thanks in advance!
—Ruakh_TALK
22:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

It seems like you all have it well in hand there: putting "stable" widely-used languages in one module and the "unstable" less-widely used languages in another (or multiple others), so editing one of the unstable language's modules doesn't add 92% of the pages on the wiki to the job queue, is a great idea. Feel free to ping me if you want code review of a prototype implementation, or if you get stuck on something and need suggestions. Anomie⚔ 02:30, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I've passed that on. —Ruakh_TALK 21:04, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Minor barnstar
	Thanks ever so much for User:AnomieBOT. It's most awesome in its rescuing of orphaned refs! :) — Cirt (talk) 06:22, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar! Anomie⚔ 02:57, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

watchlist-change-style-selector

Hello Anomie,

I have been trying to figure out why the green bullets for changed entries would not display in my watchlist, and I finally figured out that the "Group changes by page in recent changes and watchlist" setting in my preferences was the cause. I stumbled upon your script and hoped that it would allow the display of bullets on that version of the watchlist, but no, they still won't display unless I change my preferences. Do you know of any way to enable the bullets with the enhanced watchlist? (I'm using Vector.) Thanks! ​—DoRD (talk)​ 17:28, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

The problem there is that there isn't a bullet to turn green. You could try targeting table.mw-changeslist-line-watched .mw-collapsible-arrow.mw-collapsible-toggle-collapsed and table.mw-changeslist-line-watched .mw-collapsible-arrow.mw-collapsible-toggle-expanded to turn the arrow green instead; you might want to propose that at MediaWiki talk:Vector.css since there are probably other people with your issue. Anomie⚔ 21:36, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

You are proudly presented with...

The Einstein Robot Barnstar of Genius

I hereby award this to Anomie, not just for being very clever and for helping me fix Module:Random, but also for the tireless work he does helping people with technical issues around the project, for his outstanding bot work with AnomieBOT and friends, and for his skillful contributions to the MediaWiki software. You are a great benefit to this project - thank you! — Mr. Stradivarius 11:02, 26 November 2013 (UTC)