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| == Genseiryū Karate-do International Federation Edit War December 2009 == | |||
| ] and ] are reverting each other at ]. This could be interpeted as ]. Could I invite you both to a friendly discussion on the talk page ] to attempt to resolve the two views? ] (]) 11:39, 15 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == MarioR == | |||
| This is not abou the edit warring, of which you and MarioR are apparently both guilty. This is a final warning - think {{tl|uw-npa4}} - to cease making personal remarks about that (or indeed any) editor. Focus on the content, not the contributor. If there are issues, ] is advised. Personal attacks will not be tolerated. ]<small><sup>]</sup>]</small> 13:34, 15 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == ANI == | |||
| Note that you are being discussed here: ] --] <sup><font face="Calibri">'']''</font></sup> 15:16, 15 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == December 2009 == | |||
| ] You have been blocked. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to ] other editors, as you did on . Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the ] to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-npa1 --> ''Comment on content, not editors. Do not make sweeping accusations against other editors. Remember to ]. If there is an issue with another editor, I suggest Rfc; whatever you state you MUST back up with difs. Finally, HIS actions can not possibly be used as an excuse for YOURS. '' ]<small><sup>]</sup>]</small> 17:57, 15 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Are you kidding me? I have been blocked for defending myself against a culprit who has been proven as such in far more ways than is humanly possible to count? Even though the idea of Misplaced Pages certainly is a genuine one, the way it is conducted is ridiculous. Saying my opinion is NOT an attack, and saying what is TRUE is not an attack but certainly just a way to explain things, as I had done very carefully and thoroughly in my text both now and earlier. I will say it again, no matter how you interpret it. Mario Roering is a culprit with only one single aim in life. He wants to destroy the good name and legacy of the ] and its president, Kunihiko Tosa. I am the president of this federation in Denmark and Europe, thus I am the center of Mario Roering's attacks and defamation. These are facts, and the list of violations not only here on Misplaced Pages but nearly everywhere else on the Internet is too long to list anywhere. I have tons of evidence in mails, papers, letters, pdf-files, copies of homepages etc. to back it all up. Personally I got fed up a few years ago because of these endless and ridiculous ways, with which the Misplaced Pages admins/sysops are handling this situation. So at that time I chose to simply leave Misplaced Pages as it was, and leave the articles the way they were, full of defamation, lies and propaganda, all put in there by Mario Roering. I gave it a few years, then this year I tried again. It is obvious that neither Mario Roering nor the admins/sysops here at Misplaced Pages has changed at all. It is the exact same situation as a few years ago. Other webservices, homepages, free webhosting etc. which Mario Roering has exploited for supporting his crusade, in the same way he is exploiting Misplaced Pages, has all deleted and blocked Mario Roering from using their services after a short presentation of the facts and evidence etc. Only Misplaced Pages is still indulging Mario Roering in his ways and methods with no regard to his true intentions and what he is doing to our organization and/or myself. The way I have been treated here on Misplaced Pages I would categorize as pure and utter slander, defamation and harassment, in which the admins/sysops take an active part, though this might not be on purpose?!?!? What Mario Roering is and is doing, there can and is no doubt whatsoever. Blocking me, only shows, that fairness, honesty and rules only apply to a very few list of people here. Taking this matter to any official long time instance/institute of Misplaced Pages, only ads to the fact, that nothing will ever be done about it, as nobody cares. You are protecting a culprit, who has done nothing else than attacking, ridicule, defame, slander etc. the name of the ], our president, Kunihiko Tosa and myself as the president of Europe/Denmark. I have a born right as a human being to say my opinion, present the evidence as they are, and I have a right to free speech. If none of these basic human rights are treasured here at Misplaced Pages, it only shows, that people like Mario Roering and his methods of breaking the law, copyright violations, defamation, slander and generally lying and deceiving to reach his goals are what is treasured here at Misplaced Pages. For 5 years, I have spoken out, bringing to attention this man's lesser morals and lesser ethics, but every time some ignorant admin/sysop run the errands of Mario Roering, as you have done this time, punishing me for defending myself. If Mario Roering would stop his attacks, slander, defamation etc. and if this would be enforced by the sysops/admins here at Misplaced Pages, this situation would be solved faster than anyone of you can say Christmas. Nobody is trying to stop it, thus, whenever Mario Roering attacks me, I attack back, not every time, but often. Blocking only me, shows only, that fairness does not apply to me, but if justice was to be served, we should both be blocked forever from Misplaced Pages. As long as nothing is done about Mario Roering, I will continue to do as I have done, and I can assure you, that Mario Roering has, is and always will continue his culprit ways as he has done for the past 5 years. Thus the Misplaced Pages sysops/admins who are doing nothing to stop it, certainly only put more wood on the fire. '''There is absolutely no attack intended in these accusations''', as they are facts and every time I have mentioned them, I have provided the '''proof''', '''evidence''', '''links''' etc. necessary to back up what I have said. Every time '''Mario Roering''' opens his "mouth", '''you all''' listen and act by blocking me, threatening me or ordering me to take any dispute further using the official channels. '''When Mario Roering is blocked''' he only write a short request for having his block removed, '''and it is granted'''. Me, I can never do that. Where is the fairness in all of this? I have not taken part in any edit war, on the contrary, I have asked help and I have explained my actions thoroughly before I did them, as to not give the expression of yet another edit war. '''I have received absolutely no response and no understanding whatsoever to these requests for help and my explanations of actions'''. On the contrary, Mario Roering is starting one edit war after the other, deleting references without valid reasoning, putting his own invalid and far fetched ridiculous references from people who are not citing or referencing their work, but is merely a product of gathered false information from around the Internet to support the false claims put forward by Mario Roering. This unfairness, ridiculous treatment with no regard to truth, facts and who is right/wrong, is a disgrace to Misplaced Pages and certainly '''produces no respect''' towards you as one who acts in that way by blocking me, the victim. '''It is my human right to defend myself''', but you have taken that right away from me. Rather, you should start caring and research matters carefully before you pass wrong judgment on people, such as myself, who are here only to contribute. I have no intention, and I have no time for it either, in contributing to other articles here at Misplaced Pages than those in regard to Genseiryu. ''If Mario Roering has such intentions, fine, but that surely should not give him an advantage over me, and certainly that should not be grounds for passing wrong judgment over me, when actually Mario Roering is the culprit here''. Now, you can interpret things the way you want, and sure, you have shown that this is exactly what you do, but if you think that by doing so makes me find any respect towards you and the way you handle things, then you are wrong. Blocking me, passing wrong judgment on me and the whole situation and thus frustrating me further, has only assisted in the aims of Mario Roering, but has contributed NOTHING to the truth and/or genuine contents of the ], and ] articles. On the contrary. Since I have been blocked, Mario Roering has, like he has done many times before, continued his edit war without being opposed. He can do his edit war without any consequences whatsoever, but even though I HAVE NOT taken part in the edit war, I am the one getting blocked. This is ridiculous, and my respect for you as well as Misplaced Pages in general is at this moment almost none existent. ] (]) 01:18, 16 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::Not kidding, and what's more, you cannot possibly "prove" that his "only aim" is to "destroy" anything. That's nonsense. | |||
| ::Read ]. Abide by it, or you '''will''' be blocked again. Please be very clear on this: I am not interested in hearing any assertions by you about Mario, unless they are: | |||
| # Concise: I will not read a Wall Of Text like you posted above | |||
| # Limited to his actions on Misplaced Pages: I don't want to hear about anything else, that's outside my purvue | |||
| # Does not disparage him in any way: Avoid personal attacks. If you call him a liar say, for example, he's "dedicated his hole life to lying, defamation, accusations, slander, copyright violation and smearing my nam" that violates our ] here. Allow me to be abundantly clear here: I do not know, want to know, or care if it is true that he is utter scum. Calling him such is a violation of NPA, and will earn you increasing blocks. | |||
| ::Now, you need to learn what you clearly never did: how to edit on Misplaced Pages. Here is the standard welcome, please study the links provided. | |||
| '''Welcome!''' | |||
| Hello, {{BASEPAGENAME}}, and ] to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for ]{{#if:|, especially what you did for ]}}. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: | |||
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| *] (using the ] if you wish) | |||
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| I hope you enjoy editing here and being a ]! Please ] your messages on ]s using four ]s (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out ], ask me on {{#if:|]|my talk page}}, or ask your question on this page and then place <code><nowiki>{{helpme}}</nowiki></code> before the question. Again, welcome! <!-- Template:Welcome --> | |||
| ::If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or on my talk page. Do not expect me to read massive walls of text. Do not expect me to do anything about any disparaging remarks you may make about Mario except block you again. There are methods of dealing with defamation, poor edits, inaccurate content, etc here and '''none''' of them involve attacking another editor. ]<small><sup>]</sup>]</small> 14:10, 16 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Suggestion == | |||
| I advise you to take any questionable references Mario is using to the ]; some do not appear to be acceptable sources. Choose the most egregious source and post ''one at a time''; do not expect people to be interested in debating a list of sources. ]<small><sup>]</sup>]</small> 14:15, 16 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == suggestion 2 == | |||
| Read ]. Specifically, the sentence '''"If another user behaves in an uncivil, uncooperative, or insulting manner, or even tries to harass or intimidate you, this does not give you an excuse to respond in kind."''' is applicable. ]<small><sup>]</sup>]</small> 14:39, 16 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 09:08, 9 December 2013
Cleaned up. Everything here was almost 5 years old.