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December 10

true story omitted

I remember seeing Tom Guiry play Gregory Kingsley in the 1993 CBS-TV movie A Place to Be Loved (also known as Shattered Family). Why isn't this mentioned in the article about Guiry? What will he get following his altercation with an officer at an airport?142.255.103.121 (talk) 06:34, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Why isn't it mentioned? Because you haven't added it to his filmography, that's why. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:27, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

December 11

French naval songs (inter-war)

In between the two World Wars, did the French have any songs specifically about torpedo boats? I know the Russians had their "Torpedo Boat Song" (which was a flop, and understandably so) -- did the French have anything comparable? Thanks in advance! 2601:9:3200:467:1830:AF9B:D09C:6497 (talk) 23:46, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

It seems a bit unlikely. A Google search only produced this song by Théodore Botrel who died in 1925, but I suspect it's much older...

"Quand passe au large un cuirassé de guerre

Ou ben encore un torpilleur sournois,

Je groûme un peu : ces « bouilleurs d'eau » Tonnerre !

Ne valent pas la vieille Flotte en bois !"

It might translate as: "When a battleship goes off, or then again a sneaky torpedo boat, I groom(?) a bit: these 'water boilers' thunder! It didn't happen in the old wooden fleet!" Alansplodge (talk) 20:32, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks anyway! 67.169.80.238 (talk) 05:35, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

December 12

Put another WHAT in the jukebox baby?

• I Love Rock 'n' Roll (1975)

I love rock'n'roll. Put another dime in the jukebox baby!

• Put a Quarter in the Jukebox (1989)

Somebody put a quarter in the jukebox. Somebody play that certain hurtin' song.

I love rock'n'roll. But when did they raise the price? -- Toytoy (talk) 11:55, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Sometime in the late 70s to late 80s, apparently. --Jayron32 12:00, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

And, even earlier, one can find the lyric "Put another nickel in, in that nickelodeon". I'm (barely) old enough to remember when the price for a single play on a jukebox was a nickel. Deor (talk) 13:37, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

But it didn't increase in price in the 90s because "You can pay your last respects one quarter at a time" (Prop Me Up Beside the Jukebox (If I Die)). Rmhermen (talk) 18:28, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Jayron has the time frame right. For most of the 70's it was one song for a dime and three for a quarter - it was the same for pinball. In my neck of the woods it was the early 80s when it went to one song for a quarter - and yes I am so old I remember when the were 45 rpm records in the jukebox :-) MarnetteD | Talk 19:10, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

So when Joan Jett sang the song in 1982, probably these dime boxes were already gone or about to fade out? No wonder she liked rock'n'roll. They were not so expensive back then. Somebody put a quarter in the jukebox. (Because I can't afford the price!) Ha! -- Toytoy (talk) 08:04, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, interesting. When I were a lad, it were 1/- for two and 2/- for five, which is about half the US price (assuming an exchange rate of about $2 == £1). Was the exchange rate back then vastly different? Tevildo (talk) 22:09, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Strictly from memory (which could so easily be wrong) the rate back then was 5 dollars to one pound. It might have been even higher earlier in the decade. MarnetteD | Talk 23:01, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

That would bring it back into alignment. My father used to refer to half-crowns (2/6) as "half-dollars", which is consistent with exchange rates of that magnitude. Tevildo (talk) 23:19, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Probably a deeper reason for that: Crown (British coin) mentions that there were many silver coins around the world of a similar size and weight, including pieces of eight. That's another name for the spanish dollar, the prototype for the US dollar. (Not to imply your recollections date back to 1707.)  Card Zero  (talk) 03:01, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

In the Bretton Woods system of 1945–71, UK£1 was worth US$2.80 from 1948 to 19 Nov 1967 and US$2.40 thereafter. jnestorius 14:25, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

The history of the Jukebox is quite interesting. If you can remember when you put a nickel in, to play your 78 RPM record, and then had to crank it, then you're really dating yourself. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 20:37, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Ah, yes, I used to play "Top of the World", "Photograph", and "Angel of the Morning" for a quarter at the diner in Ocean City, NJ, when my dad took me fishing and we stopped for breakfast. μηδείς (talk) 22:49, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Good stuff. :) I wonder if jukeboxes at bars and other potential birthday party locations still include Eddy Howard's rendition of "Happy Birthday"? ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 23:04, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Video involving momoko from momomo sumomomo

What is the name of the song that inspired the video with Momoko from Momomom Sumomomo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.92.154.129 (talk) 17:18, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Just in case anyone needs a link for this tongue-twister (I do): Sumomomo Momomo. ---Sluzzelin talk 18:43, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

In fact its Japanese title (すもももももも) is not as tongue twisting as its Latin character transliteration.

Even if you don't know anything about Japanese, you can easily tell that these weird characters are just repeated. The transliteration is like "banananananananana...." You simply don't know when to stop. -- Toytoy (talk) 08:12, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

December 13

Come Back to Busan Harbor - lyrics

I have googled but am unable to find the lyrics for "Come Back to Busan Harbor" as sung by Hibari Misora. Am looking for one with the Japanese phonetic original plus translation, if possible. Thank you. SGAst (talk) 05:05, 13 December 2013 (UTC)SGAst

I came across this quite easily, but that seems to be a korean plus phonetic korean and an english translation. However, I'm not sure how accurate it is because it seems to be something to do with songs sung at sporting events and if it is anything like English football the crowd will often change the lyrics to suit their team. In fact, all the lyrics I could find for this song, until I gave up looking, were in Korean. Astronaut (talk) 12:53, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for looking. Yes, I had seen that page but it doesn't correspond to the version I have (which must be in Japanese). This is it: Come Back to Busan Harbor I have just discovered this wonderful singer and find her voice and the song incredible, would love to know what exactly Hibari Misora is singing here with Japanese phonetic plus English but cannot find anything anywhere. (or alternatively if a kind Japanese person with time to spare reads this perhaps...? -one can but ask) SGAst (talk) 14:05, 13 December 2013 (UTC)SGAst

Click "show more" on this YouTube page. You can see the original/romanized ja lyrics and the en translation. Oda Mari (talk) 16:30, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

PERFECT, thanks! SGAst (talk) 17:05, 13 December 2013 (UTC)SGAst

Rich Koz Birthday

Exactly what day was Mr Koz born? On the Misplaced Pages site it states both the 12th & the 19th. Which day is it the 12th or the 19th of March? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.13.16.80 (talk) 07:09, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

What do the sources say? ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 10:42, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

The date of 12th March given in the lead is sourced to an offline article in the Chicago Sun-Times. The 19th March in the info-box is unsourced. On that (slim) basis I've changed the second to match the first. Rojomoke (talk) 11:49, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict)The original day was added with a source saying the 12th. This edit added by an editor with a few warnings for adding unsourced content put the date of the 19th into the infobox. If the original editor didn't make a typo, then I'd tend to believe the 12th is his birth date. I can't find the source online but if you want confirmation, your local library should be able to get you a copy of the newspaper that we use as a source. Dismas| 11:49, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

The Day the Earth Stood Still graphics

The graphics from that film seem better than I would have expected for that era. Specifically, when the door of the flying saucer opened and a ramp came out, it was flawless. No jerking was seen during the movement and no seam was visible on the saucer when it was closed. So, to me this means it wasn't done with a physical model. This is too early for CGI, so I'm curious just how they did it. Here's my theory:

1) They had a full-scale physical model of the saucer, with the door opened and ramp deployed.

2) They took a picture like that, and then they turned the model around to show the back, with no opening, and took pictures like that.

3) They then made many copies of the negative with the door closed, and manually animated the frames to go from closed to open. I don't believe any other movement occurs during the opening and closing sequence, making this a bit simpler.

4) They play the animation in reverse to show the door closing.

So, is this how they did it ? (Apparently there is a director's commentary track on the DVD, does anybody have access to that, and does that mention how ?) StuRat (talk) 13:41, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

I believe imdb answers some of your questions http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/trivia --TrogWoolley (talk) 15:12, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. According to those, I was right about them running the film backwards to show closing the door, but I was wrong about them doing traditional animation. They say the gap was filled with putty to make it appear seamless. I'm still skeptical, though, as this would tend to cause pieces of putty to fall off when it opened, and there's still the lack of any visible jerks when it was opened. Maybe they set up a system with ball bearings and a motor to pull it open smoothly and then used a similar system for the ramp ? StuRat (talk) 06:04, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps there was a cut. Film the saucer with the door closed and puttied. Stop the camera, remove the putty, and film the door opening.

If they did it quickly before the light changed, it would be an invisible transition. If I recall correctly, the shot was staged with nothing moving in the background that would have given away the cut. APL (talk) 18:56, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I believe you're right about nothing else moving during that scene. They also repeat that scene of opening/closing a few times, making me think they were quite proud of it. StuRat (talk) 12:38, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Piece of cake for Ray Harryhausen. Anyway, I've ordered the DVD from my library. If I can refrain from shooting it when it arrives, I'll listen to its message. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:36, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Ah yes, I didn't consider stop-motion animation. But why would you shoot the DVD ? StuRat (talk) 12:34, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

The message remains powerful after these 60-plus years. Outstanding film. Excellent writing. Low-key, effective performances. Iconic. We're not talking Plan 9 from Outer Space here. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 15:55, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Little astrology scrolls?

Does anybody know the name or brand name of those little horoscope scrolls that were once sold in supermarkets and such? The ones I'm talking about were about the size of a cigarette and came in different colours. They were around in the late 80s and probably into the 90s but I don't think I've seen them in years so they're presumably no longer being made. Google isn't being very helpful, but I'm probably searching wrong since I don't know the brand name. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 19:11, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Just for clarity sake, I assume you mean this thing. I can't find any brand names or companies that either used to or still make them, but I am finding a LOT of people who are having the same nostalgia as you are, and/or are asking this same question. --Jayron32 04:36, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Were they also sold in vending machines? Because if so, they MAY be called "Starscroll horoscopes"/. See . --Jayron32 04:39, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

I believe "Starscroll" is correct. here's an action for one of the machines that includes a photograph of one of the scrolls.

However, I seem to have a memory of one with a somewhat different design also being sold in stores around the same time period. So either I'm imagining things, or there may have been more than one brand. APL (talk) 18:52, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I don't remember anything about vending machines, but those are definitely the same scrolls. I appreciate the info! Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 03:02, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Chinza Dopeness

Does anyone know what region of Japan the artist Chinza Dopeness is from?

Thanks. Nicholasprado (talk) 19:17, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

• Kunitachi, Tokyo Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 19:27, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Ava Cherry

I came across Ava Cherry while watching the David Bowie documentary "Five Years". Obviously she has a famous name, but can anyone tell me how/whether she is related to Don Cherry (trumpeter), Neneh Cherry and Eagle-Eye Cherry? --TammyMoet (talk) 21:30, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

• As far as I can tell, no relation at all. That is her real name though. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 02:37, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I thought it was too much of a coincidence that not only did she look like Neneh Cherry she shared a surname and wondered whether they were related. --TammyMoet (talk) 14:58, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Neneh Cherry's real name is Neneh Karlsonn - she isn't a blood relative of Don Cherry, but rather his adopted daughter. It's not impossible that Ava is related to Don, of course, but there appears to be no evidence that she is. Incidentally, it looks as though Ava is capable of passing WP:MUSIC, but formal reliable sources seem a bit thin on the ground. Tevildo (talk) 19:39, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes I wondered why we didn't have an article on her. Thank you. --TammyMoet (talk) 20:42, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

December 14

Marks under the eyes

I am sorry if this is the wrong desk, who knows. I've been kind of wondering what is the purpose of football players, for instance, to put those greasy black marks under their eyes? Sometimes they are just horizontal bars but occasionally are larger and cover the cheeks, etc.

Thanks, AboutFAce_22 — Preceding unsigned comment added by AboutFace 22 (talk • contribs) 19:06, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Eye black -- Finlay McWalterჷTalk 19:12, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Curiously, only worn by sportsmen in North America, as far as I know. Alansplodge (talk) 09:10, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

I've seen some baseballers in Australia doing it, but they're clearly just following the lead of their American heroes in an American sport. HiLo48 (talk) 23:36, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Rüştü Reçber (a non-North-American soccer goalkeeper) did it. It sort of became his trademark, but I have no idea what had inspired him. ---Sluzzelin talk 23:46, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

That makes me wonder if it really does much good, or if they just keep wearing it as a tradition. StuRat (talk) 09:56, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

My son-in-law thinks it is to prevent "reflections of the sun into the eyes?" I am not sure it is true or not. AboutFace_22 — Preceding unsigned comment added by AboutFace 22 (talk • contribs) 16:12, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

To me, that implies a very strangely shaped face. HiLo48 (talk) 23:40, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

At least for me, I can't see my cheeks unless I do an exaggerated smile, but I can see the sides of my nose. So, putting it on the sides of my nose might makes more sense. Of course, if my face was swollen, that might make my cheeks visible to me all the time. StuRat (talk) 23:54, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Aussie cricketers use white. Thincat (talk) 20:13, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

White wouldn't stop reflections. I believe that might be zinc oxide, which is used to prevent sunburn. That would explain why it's also on the lips, which have thin skin and are thus susceptible to sunburn. StuRat (talk) 23:49, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Yep. That's right. I suspect Thincat knew that, and was attempting a joke. Sadly, such things don't always work on the Interwebs. HiLo48 (talk) 23:53, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

I was going to link to a page about Native American "war paint" - which seems the most likely explanation - but our War paint page shows that we don't have one. Alansplodge (talk) 08:48, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Another thing that crossed my mind is that perhaps they do it to intimidate their opponents but in this case they could have used more grotesque facial art. AboutFace 22 (talk) 02:07, 17 December 2013 (UTC)AboutFace_22

December 15

Stories about Disillusionment

One of the things I loved about Breaking Bad (spoilers) is the way some of the main characters tried to reenact the fantasy lives of the heroes of their favorite movies, but were slowly crushed by the awful reality of the mundane and the tragic results of their own choices. Can you name some other movies, television shows, or novels that explore this feeling of disillusionment? Lev Grossman's "The Magicians" is one (and it borrows very heaily from "On the Road"), but I'm sure there are others.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.81.131.210 (talk) 07:16, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Animal Farm is one, where at first the animals seem to have created a "workers paradise", but then things go astray.

Lord of the Flies also comes to mind, where some kids without adult supervision seem like they are going to have fun, but then things get very dark.

The film A Simple Plan also qualifies. StuRat (talk) 10:01, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Batman joke

Can sombody explain this joke?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/533143_10150956856111930_291087056_n.jpg

46.239.234.77 (talk) 11:13, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

The "kid" disappeared without Batman realising, whilst he was still talking, which is what Batman always does--Jac16888 11:28, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

What is the meaning of "The kid pulled a ME."?

46.239.234.77 (talk) 12:47, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

C'mon. What do you think it means? Britmax (talk) 12:58, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

I don't know. 46.239.234.77 (talk) 13:26, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

"to pull a <Name>" means to do or perform as the person behind that name often does. See for example "to pull a Homer". So if Batman says "the kid pulled a ME", he's saying "the kid did or performed as I often do". In better words: What Jac16888 wrote. ---Sluzzelin talk 13:36, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Ah, now I see, thanks. 46.239.234.77 (talk) 14:01, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Making fun of the expression as much as anything. Like how folks will say, "Thank God for that!", so if someone is playing the role of God in a comedy, then he might say, "Thank Me for that!" ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 23:00, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Young Thug

Has someone by this name gotten past the WP:BIO standards lately? WP:TOPRED has young Thug at #13, so apparently lots of people are searching for the name. Its deletion log shows a ton of deletions, largely A7 several years ago, and we've salted it because there were so many; I've come here because I know nothing of searching for popculture topics. Nyttend (talk) 14:58, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

This is a review of the artist in question's latest album (from April of this year) - we also have an article on his record label, 1017 Brick Squad Records. Getting there, certainly, but maybe not quite over the line as yet. Definitely out of the A7 range, at least. Tevildo (talk) 15:44, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Burnout 2

On Dip Disaster, what is the current leaderboard according to http://crashmode.chiefs.tv (I don't have access to it)? --78.156.109.166 (talk) 20:46, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

The current top five (table dated 12 December at 12:33 pm) are:

Footage of the #1 run is available here. Tevildo (talk) 23:27, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

I saw it already. --78.156.109.166 (talk) 09:29, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

December 16

Information Please (how to sell a TV program concept)

I have an idea for a new television show. Can you please tell me who I can contact and how I can contact them. Thank you, Respectfully, Robert A. Warner — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.202.144.54 (talk) 19:12, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

I added to your title to make it useful. StuRat (talk) 01:24, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

You would contact each TV studio, although your chances aren't good of being heard, unless you have a track record behind you. StuRat (talk) 01:24, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Aphrodisiac song

I'm trying to remember a song from (I think) the 1990s. I assumed it was called 'Aphrodisiac' because that word, repeated, is the only lyric I can recall. But searching YouTube, etc. doesn't bring anything up. I have a feeling it was spelt funny, like 'Afrodiziac' or something, which also makes it harder to search for. It's not the one by Eleftheria Eleftheriou and it's not the one by Bow Wow Wow and it's not the one by Bran Van 3000 and it's not the one by Brandy Norwood. It's got a very laid back, soulful, head-nodding groove and a (female?) voice repeats the phrase "aphrodisiac" over the beat, and I'm pretty sure there's not much more to it. No rapping or other verses. It was the kind of thing you would have heard played in the 'chill out room' of a house music club around the mid 1990s. I think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.208.175.92 (talk) 20:35, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Paper drum in the guitar of Johnny Cash?

It says in the article about Johnny Cash: "According to Cash, he loved the sound of a snare drum, but drums were not used in country music back then, so he placed a piece of paper in his guitar strings and created his own unique "snare drum"." — My question is: How can you make a drum, or even a drum like sound, out of a piece of paper tucked into the strings of a guitar? 83.251.94.184 (talk) 01:49, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Does that interesting claim have a source? ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 02:29, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

I Walk the Line, you moron. Why don't you skip the questions that you have no clue about? 54.242.221.254 (talk) 02:59, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

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