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| :I do not recall having accused you of controlling the article. Please provide a diff showing I have done so. Judging by your closing figure of speech you seem to imply that I should be in some way controlling the article, e.g. by puppetry. I begrudge such unfounded accusation, which likewise is not supported by diffs. I also notice that you have done something similar towards {{U|Ukexpat}}.<sup>]</sup> Please substantiate your accusation either here in dialogue with me, or in an ANI filing regarding my behavior, or recant what you wrote. | :I do not recall having accused you of controlling the article. Please provide a diff showing I have done so. Judging by your closing figure of speech you seem to imply that I should be in some way controlling the article, e.g. by puppetry. I begrudge such unfounded accusation, which likewise is not supported by diffs. I also notice that you have done something similar towards {{U|Ukexpat}}.<sup>]</sup> Please substantiate your accusation either here in dialogue with me, or in an ANI filing regarding my behavior, or recant what you wrote. | ||
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List of paper mills
Hello, my friend. I'm a bit concerned about the mass removal. I did the same to that article years ago and then had second thoughts and restored it all. You've removed all of Japan and Pakistan and much more. I've been on the fence with such removals for ages, but am now leaning toward inclusion of non-blue links. I'm wondering how you decided which should stay and which should go? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:50, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
- @Anna Frodesiak: Hi Anna, good to hear from you. I hope you survived the latest cyclones! It is fine with me that you voice your concern, and I will love to have your feedback on what you find is appropriate editing on a list like this. Where's the limit? I have had brief exchanges of opinions with a couple of more senior editors; none of them could point to a policy or guideline that clearly addresses the question. I posted on the Help desk regarding embedded lists. No responses so far. What are your own thoughts both regarding embedded and stand-alone lists? Do you know of a policy/guideline/talk page consensus that deals with the matter? Best, Sam Sailor 00:01, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
- Hello, my friend. The cyclones didn't do much damage over here. Thanks for asking.
- People cite WP:NOTDIRECTORY but haven't read it. It says that List of paper mills if fundementally an okay type of list. It must contain a list of paper mills and generally no other items and no phone numbers, etc.
- So, what list items are acceptable? I've been discussing this issue for years. To me, this makes the most sense:
- Bluelinks obviously fine. Redlinks and blacklinks are the same because people just add the brackets willy nilly. The case for only bluelinks is countered with "Hey, blacklinks in List of USA paper mills will get articles fast if worthy so only bluelinks should be there." But, not so with Japan or Pakistan list articles. The items on those lists take longer to get articles. Booting them off the list means they're less likely to become articles. Their presence, whether black or red, encourages others to start the article.
- So, do we need to vet? Sure, googling each item isn't very practical. If List of Hospitals in Notondamap has black or redlinked Notondamap Central Hospital, we leave it. If it has Sammy's Upstairs Clinic, it's probably safe to remove. We use discretion. With schools and hospitals, etc, we err on the side of inclusion. With companies, etc, we err on the side of exclusion.
- Anyway, you may disgree with this, but that's where I'm at. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:31, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
- @Anna Frodesiak: First of all I demand the right to remain the last editor who refuses further discussion and reverts his own edit, should one of his edits be considered problematic by his fellow editor.
I have reverted, here comes the discussion!
- @Anna Frodesiak: First of all I demand the right to remain the last editor who refuses further discussion and reverts his own edit, should one of his edits be considered problematic by his fellow editor.
- My edit summary in the more typical case where a single entity is added to a list normally reads Rm per ]. Write the article on a given subject ] adding a link to the article to list pages, disambiguation pages, or templates., and NLIST, that applies to lists in general, not only lists of people, does ask for every entry to have a reliable source. So much for the wikilayering. What about the common sense then? I'm about to say that in these matters I am very willing to disregard my own sense as long as what I hear from you based on your better experience with Misplaced Pages makes any sense. So, I buy into your argument that black/red-linked entries on lists encourage people to create articles. (Hey, I I actually wrote that before looking up WP:RED that says: Good red links help Misplaced Pages—they encourage new contributors in useful directions, and remind us that Misplaced Pages is far from finished., I'm beginning to get the hang of this!) But I do think you contradict yourself by on one hand suggesting the List of paper mills to be left as is, and on the other hand saying we err on the side of exclusion when it comes to companies. Or maybe you here think about companies that are more directly consumer oriented? Or those that often get added to List of companies of Whateverland?
- (On a side note, my first non-saved edit to the list, which I aborted when I found out that certain black-linked companies, e.g. Sappi was bluelinked further up in the list, reduced Chine to one entry and Sweden, Finland and Germany considerable. I am only mentioning this so you don't get the idea that I should edit with any sorts of bias towards one country/part of the world.)
- So much for stand alone-lists. Take a look at Previous revision of Holy Trinity Diocesan High School before another editor pruned it. Compare with current. I would have done more or less exactly what he did, had I had the experience-grown balls for it. Do you have any rule of thumb you could hand me? (Pun intended.)
- First, my longer time at Misplaced Pages doesn't mean anything. Your judgement could easily be much better.
- I'm not sure erring on the side of exclusion is contradictory. The mills list could have some items removed, but the whole Japan and Pakistan sections removal is a bit too cautious, I think.
- So, even though WP:LISTCOMPANY says nonblue items should be referenced, nothing is carved in stone. Case-by-case, I think. Mills or automobile companies etc. are usually huge, and if only a few are listed for a whole country, there's a good chance they're notable. The same isn't true for items at List of travel agencies in XXXXX. I would be more inclined to remove some unsourced items there.
- As for lists within articles, well, that's case-by-case. I think we should look at undue weight issues and relevance and content forking to figure those out.
- Again, I may be way off in left field here. I've heard good arguments on all sides and I'm a lousy judge anyhow. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:18, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
- I'm sure you're a good judge. Thanks for WP:LISTCOMPANY, if I ever read it, I forgot it. Interestingly it says a citation to an independent, reliable source should be provided to establish its membership in the list's group . And then it may be included whether or not it meets the Misplaced Pages notability requirement, unless a given list specifically requires this. I assume that this translates to, that lists without a hidden note about restrictions, can have very many entries added then. As List of paper mills. I've added a few refs to it. Thanks for your help! Best, Sam Sailor 03:34, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
- Anna, I came across Khammam and deleted a bulleted list of street names. What, if anything, would you do in an article like this? Best, Sam Sailor 22:09, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Sam. I agree with your street name removal in this edit. Streets have to be pretty notable to have an article, so it's a safe bet to remove them.
- I just converted all the external linked Engineering colleges in Khammam into redlinks with refs to the website homepage in this edit. (I have a macro that does it automatically if you are interested.) I tend to do this because it shows the red, encouraging article creation, can turn the odd one blue sometimes, and because it makes the list less of a Yellow Pages. If anyone complains that the ref is pointless, I can say that it proves the basic fact that the place exists in that city. Thoughts?
- Here is some more cleanup. I tend to not be too thorough. User:Viriditas has me wondering if the missing spaces after punctuation is due to the devices people use and not just carelessness. Thoughts on that?
- A case for the removal of the Function halls section could be made, but I didn't bother.
- There are clues that some of this article was copy pasted. (Not much, but a bit.) If so, it's too deeply buried for me to be sure because I can't use the Wayback Machine. I just posted at Project India and asked. Misplaced Pages talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics#The Mystery of the Missing Spaces
- Hmmmmm, okay, that's it, I think. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:00, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
My own experience with rare use of iPad on Misplaced Pages is, that it can be tricky to get things right. For the same reason when I patrol I always apply extra good faith for edits with the Mobile device tag. Punctuation. MOS. It's all about conventions, knowing them and sticking to them, isn't it? More mature users will make two spaces after period, that's what they were taught when learning to type on a mechanical typewriter. Will the younger users sometimes forget the space after period because the 160 char limit in SMS text messages have "taught" them to disregard the rule? I have sometimes asked myself if some editors who natively use scripts without distinction between upper and lower case therefore make capitalisation errors when writing in English? My personal equivalent would be German: mine is very rusty. I have to think twice to remember to cap nouns. Or another personal example: my keyboard has only a hyphen. I always have to look up MOS:DASH and doubt I will ever learn and remember it.
The section Function halls is one of those I would say should go. I looked up four randomly chosen and would be surprised if individual articles were to meet GNG. How it was placed under the level two section heading Educational institutions beats me. I will try to read WP:INCITIES and put sections into order accordingly.
Is the Wayback archive blocked for you guys? Do you want me to look up something? Best, Sam Sailor 16:14, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
- I use EditPad. It's free and has really easy macros. See User:Anna Frodesiak/EditPad
- So are you saying that most of these missing spaces are due to mobile devices? If they're simply because people forget or neglect, then I find that unacceptable. We're not talking about something minor here. The convention (every single thing they've ever read in English) is plain to see. These errors are a blight.
- The double space after a full stop does nothing when the page is saved. It seems that the software just removes the appearance of it. See before during after
- Sure, let's zap function halls. They're probably all just a room in a hotel anyhow.
- Thanks for the Wayback offer. :)
Just to let you know: Talk:List of hospitals in India#Proposal for state-wise lists. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:34, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
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Merlin Entertainments
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 Moved to Talk:Merlin Entertainments – Sam Sailor 12:15, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi Sam, You have undone an edit that I made to Merlin Entertainments under the subtitle Controversies. Your reason being that you felt the article was better before I made the change. The reason that I made the change was because the original article was both biased and inaccurate. I have no agenda other than to impartially report the facts in a subjective and unbiased manner and to add accuracy in place of passionate rhetoric. The article as it again reads is as below. In October 2013 Merlin's Thorpe Park attraction became engulfed in damaging controversy when mental health campaigners accused it of putting profit before the welfare of those with mental illness. Its Halloween attractions included a feature called The Asylum, complete with "scary" patients who had "taken over the Asylum" - coming just weeks after similar controversies involving supermarket chains Asda and Tesco the commercialist behaviour of Thorpe Park management was contrasted unfavourably in the media, Twitter and by mental health campaigners who believed The Asylum perpetrated stigmatising and damaging images of mental illness In November, just after the Asylum had closed for the season, Thorpe Park finally agreed to change the name in response to being reported to Surrey police for hate crimes. The points that I feel need editing are as follows... 1. It states that 'attraction became engulfed in damaging controversy'. This is purely a subjective comment as there is no proof that the controversy was indeed damaging. Indeed the attraction remained open for the rest of the season and although there were indeed complaints made (including a 6000 name petition), there is no reason to categorically say that the controversy was damaging. 10'000s of customers continued to use the attraction with favourable reviews. My only edit here would be to add the word 'potentially' so that it reads 'attraction became engulfed in potentially damaging controversy'. 2. There is a factual inaccuracy in the article with a reference to an article in the Metro that supports the fact that it is inaccurate. It states 'In November, just after the Asylum had closed for the season, Thorpe Park finally agreed to change the name in response to being reported to Surrey police for hate crimes.' If you look at the article in the Metro that is referenced at then you will see not only that the headline reads 'Thorpe Park ‘considering changing Asylum maze over name row’ but it quotes the official press release from Thorpe Park which states ... 'UPDATE: A Thorpe Park spokesperson said: ‘Thorpe Park has not agreed to change anything. However we have listened to the debate the Asylum Maze has provoked. For us, this has always been about a particular context – the maze forms just a small part of a larger adult aimed Halloween event. ‘No offence was ever intended, it is not nor was it ever intended to be a realistic interpretation of a mental health or any other institution. We have taken this debate extremely seriously, and will take all of the points raised into account when planning any future events for 2014.’ My only edit here would be to say 'In November, just after the Asylum had closed for the season, it appeared that Thorpe Park had finally agreed to change the name in response to being reported to Surrey police for hate crimes, however a Thorpe Park spokesperson categorically said that they had not agreed to change anything' This official stance by Thorpe Park has been consistent and reported across other media and social media. My edit on this point could have been to remove the whole sentence, including the reference, as the sentence is inaccurate and the reference doesn't support it. However I am only interested in providing some balance to the article, which has been written from a single strong point of view, and feel that it is important to keep the reference, albeit alongside the correct context. I trust that you will add the accuracy and balance back into the article and remove the inaccurate bias and subjectiveness that currently exists. Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbaker11 (talk • contribs) 11:56, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
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Not vandalism.
Why have you reverted my edit again. It is clearly not vandalism, and you have reverted the article to blatant advertisement for a company. If you are not going to allow the article to be factual, maybe it should be deleted completely as it is currently an advert for a company and doesn't belong on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Infinitycoin (talk • contribs) 19:52, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
- @Infinitycoin: The article Coinbase is about a company. If you find that the article has problems, go ahead and edit. What you continue to write about would to the best of my belief be more suited in Bitcoin protocol. Have a look. Sam Sailor 20:03, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
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A barnstar for you!
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Thank you, very kind. Best, Sam Sailor 08:41, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Congratulations from STiki!
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Congratulations, Sam Sailor! You're receiving this barnstar because you recently crossed the 1,000 classification threshold using STiki. We thank you both for your contributions to Misplaced Pages at-large and your use of the tool. We hope you continue your ascent up the leaderboard and stay in touch at the talk page. Thank you and keep up the good work! West.andrew.g (developer) and Pratyya 05:53, 17 November 2013 (UTC) |
- @Pratyya Ghosh and West.andrew.g: Thank you. Best, Sam Sailor 08:43, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi Sam- Thanks!
Hi Sam. I am a newbie, and am pretty unsure what I am doing. I created an article about Harry Watts the jockey, who is related to this titleholder. The article about him is in draft review (I think), so I figured the link might be useless. I added the information that the titleholder is now disassociated from the organization. Is that relevant information? I figured it was because of the history the pageant has with dethronements, and lack of paid scholarships. Thanks for the help! InfoKlepto (talk) 09:29, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- No prob, InfoKlepto, and again welcome. You know, I risk sounding blunt, but beauty pageant stuff isn't exactly my field, so I'll leave that to someone else, but I can't see that what you wrote is controversial. And as for the linking of Meghan Williams it is actually I who make a mistake here. My apologies. She was redlinked before, i.e. she does not have an article. So linking it to Harry Watts (jockey) when it becomes an article makes sense if they are married or in a confirmed relationship. Common sense applies. Let me know if I can be of any help to you any time. Happy editing! Best, Sam Sailor 09:43, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
The stereotype of Americans
http://en.wikipedia.org/Stereotypes_of_Americans
The stereotype of Americans, in Europe is that they cannot properly present them selves abroad. I am a European that lives in the United States, and Europeans told me in 1996 that Americans are idiots because they cannot properly present them selves abroad. I had Canadians telling me a European that they hate Americans because they cannot properly present them selves abroad.
As an American that has been to Europe and Canada, and having seen many Europeans and Canadians in the U.S. I will say this.
When I lived in Germany I would often avoid places where Americans hung out for that very reason, we can be very obnoxious and boorish, especially when in a group. The many times I've travelled to Canada I've never had a problem with Canadians, well mostly, there are always a few a holes on both sides of the border. Europeans I've met travelling in the U.S. seem to go out of their way to piss off Americans, a European in the U.S. is just as bad as an American in Europe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.151.9.245 (talk) 18:53, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- @75.151.9.245: Thanks for your opinion. On Misplaced Pages we edit from a neutral point of view. What we add has to be supported by reliable sources. If you need any help, let me know. Best, Sam Sailor 19:11, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
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Being granted reviewer rights neither grants you status nor changes how you can edit articles. If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time.
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- Thanks. Best, Sam Sailor 19:22, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Man The Mighty
I wanted to create "Man The Mighty" wikipedia page. I was just finishing to complete it. I just wanna know if I did some mistakes and why you deleted my new born page. If you want, please help me to get better. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by WDTTW (talk • contribs) 14:42, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
- @WDTTW: I did not delete the article Man The Mighty as such, I tagged it for deletion under WP:CSD#A7 and an admin followed up and deleted it. (As I am not an admin I can no longer see the deleted article, but if memory serves the band was from Chicago, formed in 2006, had done 70 gigs in 2012 and was now working on getting their first album out in 2014.) You should really turn to the deleting admin and ask them to WP:USERFY it for you. That means undeleting it to your user space where you can work on it. Maybe we can get Bbb23 over here and reply? I would be surprised if they say no, but I also think you will get the sound advice to work on and submit the article to WP:AFC next time. Best, Sam Sailor 15:08, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, I deleted it per A7 and G11. Everything else you say is correct, although I don't userfy articles unless the creator directly asks me to. You can use the male pronoun for me, although I'm not offended if someone calls me "she" or even "it"; it's better than some other things I've been called. :-) --Bbb23 (talk) 00:48, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Latasha Harlins
you left me a message notifing me of a revert you made to my edit on Latasha Harlins. As I feel the edit improves the article, and indeed was already contained in the article before a recent removal by a first time editor., I would like your rationale for the removal. I will not reinsert content until I hear from you. 199.20.117.124 (talk) 20:24, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
- @199.20.117.124: The addition of "unlawfully" to "shot and killed" is a pleonasm that (at first I thought) is unneccessary. Unless you think someone would feel that the store owner was in her good right to act as she did. And having read the article and seen the, may I be polite and say, peculiar comment from the judge "But was that reaction understandable? I think that it was." ... uhmm, picking up a gun and shooting a 15-year-old for petty theft and a slap in the face? ... I think a lot of us would say, that those are measures that do not match the offense. So if you feel a need to make a point here, by all means undo my edit. In fact I'll do it myself after posting this. I'd like to hear your motivation for the "unlawfully", it's always nice to become wiser. Best, Sam Sailor 21:00, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
- Simply saying 'shot and killed' doesn't say enough, homicides aren't always illegal, and I feel it's an important to mention in the lede that the shooting was criminal. I get your point that any objective person reading the entire article should realize that a crime was committed, but if you read the talk page there are several people who feel the shooting was justified. I wish I could come up with a single word to replace 'unlawfully shot and killed', but some might object to 'murdered' since the perp was convicted of manslaughter and I'm not sure if there is a verb form of that word. I am of course open to any suggestions. 199.20.117.121 (talk) 20:47, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Johnny Martin footballer
Hi I edited the profile of Johnny Martin as he has recently died . You have re edited it to how it was before . What do you need for me to put the new details on as I know a lot of his history over the last 15 yrs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Campingas (talk • contribs) 23:53, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Campingas, paste a URL to e.g. an obituary that confirms his death, I'll show you how to work it into the article as a reference, and you can go from there with expanding the article. Best, Sam Sailor 00:05, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for letting me knowing the changes you did. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhill579 (talk • contribs) 20:54, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
nick studio 10
Nick will not admit that they are cancelled they will not show the ratings for the show they know that show is a fail but they don't want to release any info I have even message troy and he won't admit it people say they are coming back in The fall but winter is almost here so when winter comes I'm putting them cancelled. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kittychew (talk • contribs) 21:01, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
- We know that:
- a best-of compilation was aired on September 2, 2013
- it has not aired since.
- Both statements are facts. The first one ought to be cited.
- The two things over which you and some IPs edit war are
- did the September best-of compilation suggest the block's return with the fall schedule?
- has the show been cancelled or not?
- You could argue that both are valid assumptions, and as I said in my edit summary here "cancelled" is quite likely. After all we now have late November. But since you guys can't agree, I have put in a neutral wording that overcomes aspects of WP:SYNTH. If you can find some reliable sources to quote, let me know, and I'll help you if needed with putting them in the article. When I googled the matter I mostly found forum comments from people biggering about the show. Best, Sam Sailor 07:39, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
editing correct information
hello sir,
If i have knowledge about some material and I dont have any proof to prove it is true. what should I do ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hhhpatil.123 (talk • contribs) 19:05, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Hhhpatil.123. Your question is very broad, I guess you are talking about adding something to an article here on Misplaced Pages, and you feel unsure how to reference it. Maybe if you gave me an example I could try to help you better? Best, Sam Sailor 19:13, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Ah, Vithoba, I see, give me five minutes! Best, Sam Sailor 19:15, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for replying,
Take your own time. one more thing sir, I have lot of valid information about Vivek Patil, but not having any reference to support it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hhhpatil.123 (talk • contribs) 19:20, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- If you right click on Vithoba and open it in a new window ... in the section Etymology and other names you see that the first sentence is just a list of the synonyms. The rest of the section goes into some details regarding these different names. The last paragraph in the section touches upon the name Panduranga. And it says it means 'the white god' in Sanskrit. So if you want to add that Panduranga means White colored then it could be a more appropriate place to add it rather than in the section intro line. Don't you think so? I don't know Sanskrit, but I assume you do. Let's try to
- Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
- Google Books search returns what I think is a good result:
- Guy L. Beck (1 June 2006). Alternative Krishnas: Regional and Vernacular Variations on a Hindu Deity. SUNY Press. pp. 116–. ISBN 978-0-7914-6416-8.
An alternative name for Vitthal, Panduranga, might refer to a Saiva deity who remained the inspiration for the name of the town, Pandharpur. The word Panduranga certainly implies a figure with "a white (panda) color (ragga)"
- Guy L. Beck (1 June 2006). Alternative Krishnas: Regional and Vernacular Variations on a Hindu Deity. SUNY Press. pp. 116–. ISBN 978-0-7914-6416-8.
- How does that look to you?
- Best, Sam Sailor 19:43, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Similarly a search for sources on Vivek Patil would be
- Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
- I will gladly help you put the references into the articles. But I will also warmly recommend you spend an hour or so with Misplaced Pages:The Misplaced Pages Adventure. It is a really helpful little journey. Best, Sam Sailor 19:54, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
. Thank you sir. you have done lot of research about vithoba. i appreciate it. nice job. all the best — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hhhpatil.123 (talk • contribs) 06:59, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
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ECU Pirates
Sam, The other day I edited the East Carolina Pirates football page to reflect that Jeff Compher is now the athletic director, as you can verify here on ECU's own website. I subsequently received a message from you informing me that you had reversed the change I made because "it did not appear to be constructive". As you van verify though numerous sources, such as the News & Observer website, former Athletic Director Terry Holland stepped down from his position in December 2102 and was replaced shortly thereafter by Jeff Compher. Hopefully with this additional information you can reconsider the change I made to the East Carolina Pirates football page. Thanks for your time. 96.231.141.54 (talk) 04:48, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
- I've put Jeff Compher back in and added the ref. Best, Sam Sailor 08:41, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
create a new page for Dinkar Patil (social activist and politician)
Dear Sir,
Hi I am Hemant Patil, would like to create a new page of Mr Dinkar Patil - a great politician and social activist of Maharashtra in India. Please give me permission to do so. He was former member of Peasants and Worker party of India. He was also MP of Raigad district Maharashtra. He has sacrificed his life to work for poor peasants of Raigad district. He has passed away in the year 2012. he has also worked for Rayat shikshan sanstha of satara.
please refer this site http://www.loksatta.com/mumbai-news/tribute-to-d-b-patil-138179/ . Please reply as early as possible . I shall be highly obliged to you.
thank you
Hemant patil 9870611093 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hhhpatil.123 (talk • contribs) 08:12, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
- Hhhpatil.123, you don't need permission to create an article. But I would suggest you read Misplaced Pages:Your first article and use Misplaced Pages:Articles for creation to get feedback before releasing your work into main space. And why not join Misplaced Pages:WikiProject India? Best, Sam Sailor 08:14, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
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Resolved. Sam Sailor 10:19, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Artist vs EP prods
I don't usually restore prods, and I understand why you reverted the prod on the two EPs by the band, but
- just because the article was de-proded doesn't mean that these will be and,
- having no links helps support that the band is not notable.
If you still want to de-prod, I won't restore the prod. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:41, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Note: WP:DEPROD. Best, Sam Sailor 04:42, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
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what vandalism are you talking about?
I dont know what you are referrng to on the last message on my talk page. If you are referring to his birthdate I corrected it to represent reality. If the media cant even get his birthdate right those sources should be eliminated. His birthdate is not a secret and in the interest of truth I posted the right date. Why would you object to the truth?
ALSO please show me the WIKI policies that state contributors must contribute to more than one article.
Quite ironic that YOU accused me of controlling the article when it appears you are pulling all the strings.MrTownCar (talk) 11:57, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
- The last two words in my message on your talk page reads "This diff". Clicking on that will bring up the relevant diff. That's what I am talking about.
- Any material added to Misplaced Pages must have been published previously by a reliable source. Editors may not add or delete content solely because they believe it is true.
- I am not aware of a policy that says editors must contribute to more than one article, but you could post at WP:HD about it.
- you suggested that macauthor and I be topic band after agreeing with shii's observation about SPA.MrTownCar (talk) 22:56, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
"Quite ironic that YOU accused me of controlling the article when it appears you are pulling all the strings."
- I do not recall having accused you of controlling the article. Please provide a diff showing I have done so. Judging by your closing figure of speech you seem to imply that I should be in some way controlling the article, e.g. by puppetry. I begrudge such unfounded accusation, which likewise is not supported by diffs. I also notice that you have done something similar towards Ukexpat. Please substantiate your accusation either here in dialogue with me, or in an ANI filing regarding my behavior, or recant what you wrote.
- Sam Sailor 20:38, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
- richwales already commented on using anonymous sources from the citation in the talk page. whose consensus do I need to removed anonymous contributions? Yours? this violates BLP policy especially for contentious material.MrTownCar (talk) 22:59, 18 December 2013 (UTC)