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Don't Do This

Hello XLinkBot, and to the Misplaced Pages. I've read your message, but I worked for 2 days on the article, Kumarason Chinnadurai. Please revert it back to it's full article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ganapati Pujans (talk • contribs) 03:34, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

I've undone the bot edit, but removed the 'offending' links. That article really needs reliable sources, please find some which are from respectable newspapers. --Dirk Beetstra 03:48, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Kiki Haynes

Why was it reverted the info? 96.59.136.148 (talk) 00:36, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

You added a twitter-reference - not the best of sources, and the bot informed you of that - I am not convinced either that this is a suitable source. --Dirk Beetstra 06:28, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Revert Changes

Bot killed an addition I made, too. --173.160.130.14 (talk) 03:32, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

You added an about.com reference (though not in the reference-format, so the bot could not detect that). As you added more references, I have reverted the bot. --Dirk Beetstra 06:32, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Aram Khachaturian Link

I am not sure what was wrong with the YouTube link I've provided to illustrate Aram Khachaturian's Waltz music in the respective article. Ryazan Philharmonic Society (the one that shows the Waltz video on its respective YouTube channel) has generously permitted me to share the link. There is no any spam/advertisement/malware in there at all. The linked YouTube content clearly relates to Aram Khachaturian's Misplaced Pages article. I also know that YouTubes have been used extensively to illustrate Misplaced Pages articles. Still, the bot has removed my link. Why? -- Hautboist (talk) 19:34, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

We are not an internet directory, and not everything that is out there needs to be linked. Also, a link does not need to be spam to be inappropriate according to our policies and guidelines. If I see the size of the article, and the quality of the references and external links there, I don't think that video's need to be added. Please see the external links guideline for more information. Thanks! --Dirk Beetstra 06:37, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Boarsodi link by Bill transition centre

Hi, The link I made to the Borsodi page consists of a number of articles I have written about him over the past two years. They include biography; life, times and works, and represent the most up-to-date information about Borsodi. I am considered the leading Borsodi scholar. The blog site seemed to be the best way to make this information available but it seems useful to link it from the wiki page Thank you Bill Sharp Bill transition centre — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bill transition centre (talk • contribs) 21:10, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

This does not really argue why, per the external links guideline, these links should be added. I think you should work on expanding the prose, not just put links.

Also, there may be problems with the username you chose, I would suggest you change it, or start a new account - see here. --Dirk Beetstra 06:24, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Non ASCII characters.

Take a look at your edit on User_talk:187.240.148.120 (which I've since fixed). The link should be Thalía, not ThalÃa. Looks like a problem with handling non-ASCII? Nick Levine (talk) 11:15, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. Thanks for pointing me to that again - I'll see if I can solve it one of these days (problem is, it is difficult to test, you only notice when it hits a page that has the problem). --Dirk Beetstra 12:54, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Coin references linking to worldcoinnews.blogspot.com are always being removed

• worldcoinnews.blogspot.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Misplaced Pages: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

However, I am a reliable source of coin news, always checking for news at official Mint and Central banks, of using my own numismatic collection resources...

How could I succeed in adding information to Misplaced Pages in this way? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.22.96.67 (talk) 09:33, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

"However, I am a reliable source of coin news ..." .. could you please read the conflict of interest guideline to learn about adding sites that you are affiliated with and the reliable sources guideline to learn what is actually a reliable source? ~

".. always checking for news at official Mint and Central banks ..", now, those are the (albeit primary) sources that are reliable. Thanks you. --Dirk Beetstra 13:07, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

CavinKare

Please help me with this page. Don't no where am i going wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Revathy Iyer (talk • contribs) 06:11, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Please read the policies and guidelines as has been pointed out to you already (please read the guidelines and policies that are linked from your talkpage. Misplaced Pages is NOT an advertising service, repository of links, etc. etc. --Dirk Beetstra 06:18, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

External Link. Hiermonymus Bosch

Hi,

first : sorry for my poor english. I want to defend the external link I put on the page of The Garden of Earthly Delights. It is a link to the official page of El Bosque. animated short movie, directly inspired by The Garden of Earthly Delights. All the artwork is the H. Bosch artwork, recomposed and animated. This short film got selecioned in many internacionals festivals and got best sort film award en el festival international MARFICI en MAr del Plata, Argentina. Of course if you feel that movie don't have to be on the wikipedi page I will accept this. But I'd like ti know exactly the reasons of putting out my link. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ange Potier (talk • contribs) 19:49, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the question and explanation. I think that the answer is in the external link guideline. You say that the movie was inspired by this subject. Don't you think that is a stretch regarding providing more encyclopedic information about the subject. We don't link to everything that is more or less related, just what provides more understanding. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra 20:23, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

re my external link reversion

I had a link to my website on my ideographic language (neoideograms.wordpress.com)up under "ideogram" a couple of times, but i give up. I see your one of your criteria is that an external link add to an encyclopedic knowledge of the topic. Examples certainly add to encyclopedic knowledge. I could try "writing systems" but I don't see any contemporary systems up there. It seems to me that you are being conservative/exclusive to the detriment of readers knowledge. --Brumpfschmlog (talk) 21:13, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Did you try the addition of actual prose, actual knowledge, dropping the conservative thought that your website should be included? --Dirk Beetstra 21:38, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Message left to editors

When XLinkBot undoes edits it leaves the following message on the talk page of the editor it has reverted:

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page 'X' has been reverted. Your edit here to 'X' was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline. The external link(s) you added or changed ('X') is/are on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Misplaced Pages. If the external link you inserted or changed was to a blog, forum, free web hosting service, fansite, or similar site (see 'Links to avoid', #11), then please check the information on the external site thoroughly. Note that such sites should probably not be linked to if they contain information that is in violation of the creator's copyright (see Linking to copyrighted works), or they are not written by a recognised, reliable source. Linking to sites that you are involved with is also strongly discouraged (see conflict of interest). If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert. However, if the link does not comply with our policies and guidelines, but your edit included other, constructive, changes to the article, feel free to make those changes again without re-adding the link. Please read Misplaced Pages's external links guideline for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks, XLinkBot

This is a very cold and unwelcoming way to inform an editor about a mistake which - in my experience - tends to have been done in good faith. This is especially damaging as many of the editors who make this mistake are very new to Misplaced Pages and this is likely to put them off editing in the future. The multiple wikilinks can be daunting for those unfamiliar with Misplaced Pages and the use of the negative 'although' implies that the editor was definitely not contributing constructively.

I suggest that this message is changed to sound much more positive. Something along the lines of:

Hello! I'm an automated computer program called XLinkBot and I'd like to thank you for your contribution(s) to Misplaced Pages - we really appreciate your help. Unfortunately I had to recently undo one of your edits because it added an external link ('X') that could be a breach of Misplaced Pages's guidelines on external links and is on my list of links to remove. If this was not the case and you think I made a mistake please feel free to undo my revert. If it turns out the external link was unsuitable for Misplaced Pages but you made other changes to the article you'd like to keep, you make these changes again without re-adding the link.

Here are a few tips to help avoid similar problems in the future:

• Try to avoid linking to sites that is are in violation of the creator's copyright
• It's generally not a good idea to link to a site that you are personally involved in as you could have a conflict of interest
• If you are linking to blogs, forums, free web hosting services and fansites you should take special care in checking that their content is suitable for Misplaced Pages
• It's always best to link to sites that are written by a recognised, reliable source

If you are new to Misplaced Pages you might find the teahouse, a place for new editors to ask questions, useful. If want to find out more about about me visit my my FAQ page. Thanks, XLinkBot

Jr8825 • Talk 10:58, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the ideas and suggestions. I'll have a better look this afternoon. Note that the message is not a 'single' message, but composed from several parts. They are all accessible from the settings (User:XLinkBot/Settings).

I do prefer that the 'what' and 'why' are included in the message - some people add 5 links, and XLinkBot is only reverting because of 1 of them. Also, noting down the link does enables the real spam to be found more efficiently. We might also want to think about the 'breach of guideline' you suggest. As I said, will come back to this later today. Thanks!! --Dirk Beetstra 12:22, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Just quick - the message is created from (firstrevertremark OR uw-spam# warning) + (revertexplanation or referenceexplanation) + (ownremark-text) + (endtext) + (isiptext if IP). For the 'ownremark-text' multiple may fit:

• firstrevertremark=Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page $pagename has been reverted.
  
• revertexplanation=Your edit to $pagename was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline. The external link(s) you added or changed ($link) is/are on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Misplaced Pages.
• referenceexplanation=Your edit to $pagename was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links in references which are discouraged per our reliable sources guideline. The reference(s) you added or changed ($link) is/are on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Misplaced Pages.
• endtext=
  If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert. However, if the link does not comply with our policies and guidelines, but your edit included other, constructive, changes to the article, feel free to make those changes again without re-adding the link. Please read Misplaced Pages's external links guideline for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks!
• isiptext=
  If this is a shared IP address, and you didn't make the edit, please ignore this notice.

The 'points' are caused by:

• ownremark=image|media|petition|blog|payforview|email|wiki|fallingrain|telephone1|telephone2|copyright
• emailtext=Misplaced Pages pages should not contain personal information such as email addresses. For more information, please read Misplaced Pages:Biography of Living People, specifically the section about personal information.
• telephone1text=Misplaced Pages pages should not contain personal information such as telephone numbers. For more information, please read Misplaced Pages:Biography of Living People, specifically the section about personal information.
• telephone2text=It appears that you inserted a telephone number to $pagename. Misplaced Pages pages should not contain personal information. For more information, please read Misplaced Pages:Biography of Living People, specifically the section about personal information.
• imagetext=If the external link you inserted or changed was to a media file (e.g. an image file) on an external server, then note that linking to such files may be subject to Misplaced Pages's copyright policy and therefore probably should not be linked to. Please consider using our upload facility to upload a suitable media file.
• mediatext=If the external link you inserted or changed was to a media file (e.g. a sound or video file) on an external server, then note that linking to such files may be subject to Misplaced Pages's copyright policy, as well as other parts of our external links guideline. If the information you linked to is indeed in violation of copyright, then such information should not be linked to. Please consider using our upload facility to upload a suitable media file, or consider linking to the original.
• petitiontext=If the external link you inserted or changed was to a petition site then please note that wikipedia is not a soapbox, and that such links generally should not be included.
• wikitext=If the external link you inserted or changed was to an external Wiki, then please note that these links should generally not be included (see 'links to avoid' #12).
• blogtext=If the external link you inserted or changed was to a blog, forum, free web hosting service, fansite, or similar site (see 'Links to avoid', #11), then please check the information on the external site thoroughly. Note that such sites should probably not be linked to if they contain information that is in violation of the creator's copyright (see Linking to copyrighted works), or they are not written by a recognised, reliable source. Linking to sites that you are involved with is also strongly discouraged (see conflict of interest).
• payforviewtext=If the external link you inserted or changed was to a site that provides payment for people visiting the that page, then note that Misplaced Pages is not an advertising service. Linking to sites that you are involved with is also strongly discouraged (see conflict of interest).
• fallingraintext=If you were adding a link or reference to fallingrain.com, then you should be aware that this site is considered on wikipedia to be an unreliable source. More information can be found MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#Fallingrain.com here (permanent). Please consider to use/find another source for the information.
• copyrighttext=The site you were adding contains information which is in violation of copyright. Please check if the information on the page is not in violation of copyright before considering to re-add the link.

Later I have the code as well, so I can probably give more detailed info (have to review, haven't touched this for ages). --Dirk Beetstra 12:39, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

The whole message doesn't necessarily need to be changed, in my opinion only the first section needs to be significantly reworded to assume good faith. I see now how the system of adapting the message to the circumstances works (pretty clever!) If I have time I can put together a draft of suggested changes (maybe just slight rewording for each section of the message and cutting down the number of links). Thanks for your help with this, it's really appreciated! Jr8825 • Talk 14:16, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! These things are editable by any admin (the settings are fully protected), and can be reverted if they give problems - I have no problem with anyone tinkering them to optimize them. XLinkBot reads the settings page before every revert that it does, so all changes to that page are effective on the next edit (barring it failing to read the page due to glitches in MediaWiki). Please do check the next revert and the message it leaves after changing the messages to see if there are no curiosities (XLinkBot does add some <br /> and some 'newlines' between some of the lines, which are not in the settings, but that will be obvious after the revert if the message does not come out as intended.

Please, do make sure that the $link (as a readable and working link, for tracking reasons and so the person knows what link actually was the 'problem'!) and $regex (can be in a comment) are somewhere in the messages - the link is for tracking, the rule is sometimes handy to figure out why the bot reverted (there are some which are exotic and, though very uncommon, miscatches are possible as well). --Dirk Beetstra 15:04, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Alapati Dharma Rao

This article needs reliable sources and author is trying to put URL in his/her article which may cause copyright violation and the article is not written in encyclopedic language. I tagged it for speedy deletion but I think you reverted my edit. Nechlison (talk) 12:53, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

No, the bot reverted to your edit (actually re-instating the tag). The editor removed it again afterwards. Maybe the editor needs some more warnings, and if all else fails, AfD it. --Dirk Beetstra 13:39, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

"Judea Declares War on Germany"

The link http://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/judea_declares_war_on_germany.jpg is an image of a frontpage of the Daily Express, "Judea Declares War on Germany", which dates of March 1933. Any copyright is expired after 80 years. It relates to the wikiarticle as a search on "Judea Declares War on Germany" refers to this wikipage.

For inclusion in the wiki commons or wikimedia, I don't know how to process. Please do so for us. Thanks.173.176.120.156 (talk) 20:31, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

us? --Dirk Beetstra 20:52, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Twitter handle for Kerry Rhodes incorrect

XLinkBot has been removing the verified Twitter account of Kerry Rhodes on its list as links to remove. https://twitter.com/kerry25rhodes is the correct account (see the verified badge on the page). https://twitter.com/kerryrhodes is the incorrect account (see the porn spam...). Can someone please correct the link list? Cheers. EvergreenFir (talk) 21:50, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

No. See WP:OFFICIAL - we do not link to all possible web-presences of a notable subject. Please file a request for blacklisting for the incorrect, porn version. --Dirk Beetstra 04:52, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

It seems quite common practice to list facebook, offical webpages, and twitter. EvergreenFir (talk) 05:53, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, it is commonly in violation of WP:ELOFFICIAL, and actually, 'what Misplaced Pages is not' (we're not writing the yellow pages or a linkfarm). Also this is one of the reasons that many of these sites are on XLinkBot - they are superfluous to the, often (though indeed not always) existing <subject>.<tld>-links, and if they are not, one might want to question the notability of the subject. There are only few exceptions why the twitter needs to be linked next to the official site, and if there only is a twitter then, generally, the subject is not notable enough for a Misplaced Pages page. --Dirk Beetstra 06:36, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

XLinkBot showing up on my watchlist.

I have bot edits shut off on my watchlist, yet edits done by XLinkBot still show up. This isn't a huge deal, but it would eliminate a little bit of clutter on my watchlist if what ever script needs to be added to prevent this could be done. Thanks for your (and/or the collectively) great work on this bot. Sulfurboy (talk) 21:57, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

It is a deliberate choice that XLinkBot does not have a bot-bit, so it's edits show up for review. --Dirk Beetstra 04:52, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Recent reversion on United Popular Front page

The last major edit before the reversion was a big rewrite in order to make the page not be a political dissertation. Not sure why your bot has revered it. Please advice on what to do, to prevent this kind of thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doth4580 (talk • contribs) 11:01, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, what was done was what the bot suggested (in part) - reverting. However, the 'offending' external links were not removed, while after reading the external links guideline that would have been the proper solution. I have done so. --Dirk Beetstra 11:41, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Brutal edit

In identifying and attempting to remove an external link from my page Xlinkbot managed to wipe out a whole lot more and reverted the article back to it's status before a whole day's work. Thanks not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aljezur-International (talk • contribs) 11:14, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

You're right, but .. have you read our conflict of interest guideline, the material is somewhat promotional (what is the reason that the page has to link to the beaches of Aljezur, we're talking about the school? And " is housed in beautiful converted farmhouse premises with extensive grounds, a horticultural project garden and access to a stunning natural watercourse" .. stunning, beautiful - we are writing an encyclopedia here), and it seems you are using at least 4 different accounts. --Dirk Beetstra 06:29, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Dear XLinkBot,

I edited the page "Harvester (video game)" and added the external link and a reference to that link. You did not accept that, but I have a very good reason for the link(s). Harvester is an old video game and most of the information you can find about it is misleading or false. The only reliable and active source for the information is Harvester fan page on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/lodge.level.4). The creator of the fan page has interviewed the people who made Harvester (there's plenty of interviews on the fan page) and the people who made Harvester have also participated in building the fan page.

I personally can see no reason for you to not accept the changes I made to the page "Harvester (video game)". If you still are going to undo the changes could you please specify why so I won't do the same mistake again. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Testerinen (talk • contribs) 20:43, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

I removed one or more external links you added to the page Robert Harris (poet),

The two links I added to Robert Harris (poet) where to a WordPress site used as web page for a literary magazine. The link was to two poems by Robert Harris. All of Harris' work is currently out of print and these links are basically the only online poems by Harris so I thought it was important to include them.

Markr60 (talk) 11:17, 25 January 2014 (UTC)Mark60

RE: January 2014

I'm sorry about the bad malicious edits that happened; with my account unfortunately a younger sibling had access of my account and had vandalized a few Ultimate Marvel Articles (which I've reverted).