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== Quick note ==

Hi Bilby. Given your involvement in the ] article over time, can you comment, on talk, as to a couple of clear points I've left there. Just want a civil resolution and to bring some much needed NPOV to that very '''biased article'''. Was not sure why you were so keen to get rid of the reference to the scientific committee at the University of South Australia conference, but anyway have compromised on that too.] (]) 03:32, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

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doctor who

Please cite your source for changing the response to Time of the Doctor from positive to mixed. I can find no reliable siurce supporting this claimShaolindoctorwho (talk) 14:14, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

The only source right now giving any kind of overview is IMDB, and there the reaction is 8.2 positive. A rundown of all the major reviews is in line with this assessment. Rotten Tomates has it at 100 percent fresh but given the small number of reviews there, it is far too early to use it as a source. You cannot use your own opinion about the show or its reaction for this. This isn't a gut reaction kind of assesment. You must cite. You must abide by wikipedia policy and cite. I request that other editors be brought in to this matter. Clearly the article has become the focus of fan feuds. Shaolindoctorwho (talk) 14:23, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi! I've responded over at Talk:The Time of the Doctor. - Bilby (talk) 14:51, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

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Paid editors

I like the way you explained this to the IP. I guess I was just too lazy to do something about it myself - putting in effort to protect paid editors may be correct and of course policy is against outing but of course they damage Misplaced Pages and waste an inordinate amount of good editors time, so I'm afraid I couldn't be bothered. I should trout myself. Dougweller (talk) 08:54, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

I understand exactly how you feel. :) I spend a lot of time trying to quietly counter some of the problems they produce, but I really wish the community could get some consensus on how to proceed, whatever it may be. - Bilby (talk) 08:17, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

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Help with C-SPAN?

Hi there, Bilby. I could be wrong, but I don't think our paths have ever crossed on Misplaced Pages, though I'm looking for help with a few minor suggestions to the C-SPAN article and I know that you've helped User:16912 Rhiannon—with whom I work—with a few COI projects of hers in the past. I'm hoping you might be able to help me as well.

My COI with C-SPAN is very straightforward: I have been a consultant to the network for several years now and have been working this year to improve the C-SPAN article so that I can submit it to WP:FAC. I had done so once, incorporated a good amount of feedback—it seems very close—but eventually time ran out on the first nomination.

Over the past few months, I had been working with a couple of editors to finalize some small changes to the page—but the editor with whom I'd been talking (User:Ruhrfisch) has drifted away as of late. Since then, I've posted about my two suggestions on the Paid Editor Help page, though it doesn't seem to be very active these days.

If you can help, the request at Paid Editor Help explains everything in more detail—and the key discussion itself is back at Talk:C-SPAN. In short, I'm looking to update the current XM radio channel listing in the article and to clarify one point in the History section. While I don't think these are remotely controversial or POV-ish, I'm also keen on following Jimbo's "bright line" so I won't be the person to make them myself.

Any chance you could take a look at this and, if the changes seem agreeable, update the entry? After that, it's over to FAC. Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 02:30, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

This is now  Done. Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 14:33, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

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For more information about how to use VisualEditor, read Misplaced Pages:VisualEditor/User guide.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some feature changes, major infrastructure improvements to make the system more stable, dependable and extensible, some minor toolbar improvements, and fixing bugs.

A new form parsing library for language characters in Parsoid caused the corruption of pages containing diacritics for about an hour two weeks ago. Relatively few pages at the English Misplaced Pages were affected, but this created immediate problems at some other Wikipedias, sometimes affecting several dozen pages. The development teams for Parsoid and VisualEditor apologize for the serious disruption and thank the people who reported this emergency at Misplaced Pages:VisualEditor/Feedback and on the public IRC channel, #mediawiki-visualeditor.

There have been dozens of changes since the last newsletter. Here are some of the highlights:

  • Accidental deletion of infoboxes and other items: You now need to press the Delete or ← Backspace key twice to delete a template, reference or image. The first time, the item becomes selected, and the second time, it is removed. The need to press the delete key twice should make it more obvious what you are doing and help avoid accidental removals of infoboxes and similar (bug 55336).
  • Switch from VisualEditor to the wikitext editor: A new feature lets you make a direct, one-way editing interface change, which will preserve your changes without needing to save the page and re-open it in the wikitext editor (bug 50687). It is available in a new menu in the action buttons by the Cancel button (where the "Page Settings" button used to be). Note that this new feature is not currently working in Firefox.
  • Categories and Languages are also now directly available in that menu. The category suggestions drop-down was appearing in the wrong place rather than below its input box, which is now fixed. An incompatibility between VisualEditor and the deployed Parsoid service that prevented editing categories and language links was fixed.
  • File:, Help: and Category: namespaces: VisualEditor was enabled for these namespaces the on all wikis (bug 55968), the Portal: and Viquiprojecte: namespaces on the Catalan Misplaced Pages (bug 56000), and the Portal: and Book: namespaces on the English Misplaced Pages (bug 56001).
  • Media item resizing: We improved how files are viewed in a few ways. First, inline media items can now be resized in the same way that has been possible with block ones (like thumbnails) before. When resizing a media item, you can see a live preview of how it will look as you drag it (bug 54298). While you are dragging an image to resize it, we now show a label with the current dimensions (bug 54297). Once you have resized it, we fetch a new, higher resolution image for the media item if necessary (bug 55697). Manual setting of media item sizes in their dialog is nearly complete and should be available next week. If you hold down the ⇧ Shift key whilst resizing an image, it will now snap to a 10 pixel grid instead of the normal free-hand sizing. The media item resize label now is centered while resizing regardless of which tool you use to resize it.
  • Undo and redo: A number of improvements were made to the transactions system which make undoing and redoing more reliable during real-time collaboration (bug 53224).
  • Save dialogue: The save page was re-written to use the same code as all other dialogs (bug 48566), and in the process fixed a number of issues. The save dialog is re-accessible if it loses focus (bug 50722), or if you review a null edit (bug 53313); its checkboxes for minor edit, watch the page, and flagged revisions options now layout much more cleanly (bug 52175), and the tab order of the buttons is now closer to what users will expect (bug 51918). There was a bug in the save dialog that caused it to crash if there was an error in loading the page from Parsoid, which is now fixed.
  • Links to other articles or pages sometimes sent people to invalid pages. VisualEditor now keeps track of the context in which you loaded the page, which lets us fix up links in document to point to the correct place regardless of what entry point you launched the editor from—so the content of pages loaded through /Foobar?veaction=edit and /search/?title=Foobar&veaction=edit both now have text links that work if triggered (bug 48915).
  • Toolbar links: A bug that caused the toolbar's menus to get shorter or even blank when scrolled down the page in Firefox is now fixed (bug 55343).
  • Numbered external links: VisualEditor now supports Parsoid's changed representation of numbered external links (bug 53505).
  • Removed empty templates: We also fixed an issue that meant that completely empty templates became impossible to interact with inside VisualEditor, as they didn't show up (bug 55810).
  • Mathematics formulae: If you would like to try the experimental LaTeX mathematics tool in VisualEditor, you will need to opt-in to Beta Features. This is currently available on Meta-wiki, Wikimedia Commons, and Mediawiki.org. It will be available on all other Wikimedia sites on 21 November.
  • Browser testing support: If you are interested in technical details, the browser tests were expanded to cover some basic cursor operations, which uncovered an issue in our testing framework that doesn't work with cursoring in Firefox; the Chrome tests continue to fail due to a bug with the welcome message for that part of the testing framework.
  • Load time: VisualEditor now uses content language when fetching Misplaced Pages:TemplateData information, so reducing bandwidth use, and users on multi-language or multi-script wikis now get TemplateData hinting for templates as they would expect (bug 50888).
  • Reuse of VisualEditor: Work on spinning out the user experience (UX) framework from VisualEditor into oojs-ui, which lets other teams at Wikimedia (like Flow) and gadget authors re-use VisualEditor UX components, is now complete and is being moved to a shared code repository.
  • Support for private wikis: If you maintain a private wiki at home or at work, VisualEditor now supports editing of private wikis, by forwarding the Cookie: HTTP header to Parsoid ($wgVisualEditorParsoidForwardCookies set to true) (bug 44483). (Most private wikis will also need to install Parsoid and node.js, as VisualEditor requires them.)

Looking ahead:

  • VisualEditor will be released to some of the smaller Wikipedias on 02 December 2013. If you are active at one or more smaller Wikipedias where VisualEditor is not yet generally available, please see the list at VisualEditor/Rollouts.
  • Public office hours on IRC to discuss VisualEditor with Product Manager James Forrester will be held on Monday, 2 December, at 1900 UTC and on Tuesday, 3 December, at 0100 UTC. Bring your questions. Logs will be posted on Meta after each office hour completes.
  • In terms of feature improvements, one of the major infrastructure projects affects how inserting characters works, both using your computer's built-in Unicode input systems and through a planned character inserter tool for VisualEditor. The forthcoming rich copying and pasting feature was extended and greater testing is currently being done. Work continues to support the improved reference dialog to quickly add citations based on local templates.

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Misplaced Pages:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 22:14, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

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Linode

Hey Bilby, I have a question about the Linode page. The page says "The neutrality of this article is disputed." I agree, without any context it reads non-neutral. Looking at the editing history, it looks like the removed History and other sections contexualized and balanced the page. I saw that you worked on the page in September and I thought I'd ask for your help and input. Reka olner (talk) 20:21, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

There were problems with those section, mostly to do with some sourcing issues, but I agree that they are much needed in order to help with balance. I've added a little back, and I'll keep looking for sources to expand it. - Bilby (talk) 06:18, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

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Hensels

Thank you for attending to that. I was just wondering if it was possible to remove hate messages from articles of living people. Amandajm (talk) 13:20, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

The idiot has returned, twice. Amandajm (talk) 13:40, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know! I've protected the page for a short while, and blocked the IP. - Bilby (talk) 13:52, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

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This Month in Education – Volume 2, Issue 12, December 2013

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FemTechNet

Hey, you deleted my addition "Misplaced Pages movement" to this article and commented "will rewrite", you forgotten this perhaps or just too busy? Nosepea68 (talk) 03:50, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

I realised that it was already covered in the previous paragraph. - Bilby (talk) 05:43, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter • 19 December 2013

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VisualEditor's toolbar has a new drop-down menu that contains all character formatting: bold, italics, subscript, superscript, strikethrough, computer code, underline, and the ability to remove all formatting from text.

For more information about how to use VisualEditor, read the user guide.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some toolbar improvements, fixing bugs, and improving support for Indic languages as well as other languages with complex characters. The current focus is on improving the reference dialog and expanding the new character inserter tool.

There have been dozens of changes since the last newsletter. Here are some of the highlights:

  • Rich copying and pasting is now available. If you copy text from another website, then character formatting and some other HTML attributes are preserved. This means, for example, that if you copy a pre-formatted suggested citation from a source like this, then VisualEditor will preserve the formatting of the title in the citation. Keep in mind that copying the formatting may include formatting that you don't want (like section headings). If you want to paste plain, unformatted text onto a page, then use Control+⇧ Shift+V or ⌘ Command+⇧ Shift+V (Mac).
  • Auto-numbered external links like can now be edited just like any other link. However, they cannot be created in VisualEditor easily.
  • Several changes to the toolbar and dialogs have been made, and more are on the way. The toolbar has been simplified with a new drop-down text styles menu and an "insert" menu. Your feedback on the toolbar is wanted here. The transclusion/template dialog has been simplified. If you have enabled mathematical formula editing, then the menu item is now called the formula editor instead of LaTeX.
  • There is a new character inserter, which you can find in the new "insert" menu, with a capital Omega ("Ω"). It's a very basic set of characters. Your feedback on the character inserter is wanted here.
  • Saving the page should seem faster by several seconds now.
  • It is now possible to access VisualEditor by manually editing the URL, even if you are not logged in or have not opted in to VisualEditor normally.  To do so, append ?veaction=edit to the end of the page name.  For example, change https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Random to https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Random?veaction=edit to open a random page in VisualEditor.  This is intended to support bug testing across multiple browsers, without requiring editors to login repeatedly.

Looking ahead: The transclusion dialog will see further changes in the coming weeks, with a simple mode for single templates and an advanced mode for more complex transclusions. The new character formatting menu on the toolbar will get an arrow to show that it is a drop-down menu. The reference dialog will be improved, and the Reference item will become a button in the main toolbar, rather than an item in the Insert menu.

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Misplaced Pages:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:42, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

If you have a problem with my style I think it's perfectly appropriate

There is obviously no clear and/or deliberate CV going on here, either intentional or otherwise and I'm getting sick and tired of your copy edits without raising the matter on my talk page. If you have a problem with my edits on these grounds you must discuss --Orestes1984 (talk) 11:38, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

You were right and I was wrong, my abrasive behaviour lately is uncalled for --Orestes1984 (talk) 14:24, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

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Merry Xmas!

Best wishes for a great Christmas, and for a happy, healthy and prosperous 2014! Pdfpdf (talk) 13:06, 24 December 2013 (UTC)


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Anxiety

Thank you for your advice regarding my post in the anxiety article I will get that dons when I get back home for New Years. I read on your user page that you like anime, if you want to, I sometimes draw anime so you could go to www.deviantart.com and then in the serch bar look up Dark Whispers123 then click on Dark Whispers123 to get to my profile. Stormy Nights (talk) 17:12, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-prot

Did it actually get applied? Timeshift (talk) 00:08, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

It did, but as a number of editors in the past have been against protecting their talk pages, I just went for something short-term until I heard from you. It worked at the time, though. After the IP showed up again, someone else has protected your page for longer before I could wander over. :) - Bilby (talk) 14:46, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Gamers in politics

First of all, I wrote the Clark A. Peterson article before I ever realized he was a judge.

Then just today, I realized that Rob Bell (Virginia politician) was the same Rob Bell who worked for Iron Crown Enterprises.

John Nephew of Atlas Games was also a city councilman in Minnesota - turning the redirect into an article is on my to-do list. BOZ (talk) 03:48, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

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date and New York Times (blunt description - no wikilawyering)

I reverted your revert at Wiki-PR editing of Misplaced Pages. It may be the same old story, but it's the recent 2014 version, after all the previous nonsense. It's also written by the New York Times, without any wishy-washy wikilawyering language. Smallbones(smalltalk) 05:10, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

It is also written by a columnist calling for an army of sockpuppets to improve her article, only says stuff that is already in the article, and has nothing to do with "Misplaced Pages and Wikimedia reaction". And then, of course, you are highlighting that comment, without including any of Wiki-PRs response. I don't see any value in the quote. - Bilby (talk) 05:16, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

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MIS page

Hey. Well, you did not have to bring the page back. It is wrong. The correct title should be Management Information Systems. with an "s" in the end! That page should not even exist! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amjad z4 (talk • contribs) 06:16, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Alright. Lets start a discussion. But there really should be a page on the field too. I wonder why there isn't! Some info can be taken from this page too: https://en.wikipedia.org/Master_of_Science_in_Information_Systems

Health psychology

Could you weigh in on an editorial dispute between Mrm7171 and me on how to edit the health psychology entry? Thank you Iss246 (talk) 15:36, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Added the reference from iss246 and whatamidoing that Occupational health psych is a specialization of health psychology. 'Their supposed' reliable source, not mine is attached. Are they wrong? I'm confused Probably best to discuss rather than blindly revert their reliable source. I Have no idea what OHP is actually?Mrm7171 (talk) 11:32, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Would you like to OA for a Molecular Biology course project?

Hi,

I and User:Keilana are OAs for a course project in Molecular Biology, taught at John Hopkins University for the upcoming Spring, 2014 semester. We ran the same course last semester, and you can check out the course page. I will be putting together the new course pages (two, one each for two sections) for the upcoming semester in the next couple of days.

We are wondering if you would be willing to help with this. Mostly, it involves hand-holding and answering questions for students who are new to Misplaced Pages. However, we also hope that you would be able to help review articles as they become mature, during the review cycles in units 9, 11, and 13. Here is an example review by Keilana.

Depending on how many other OAs we get, we'd be asking for commitment of between two - four reviews for each of those three cycles, and each might take about an hour.

Would you be able to help with this? If so, could you please let us know as soon as possible? Thanks! Klortho (talk) 03:52, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

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This Month in Education – Volume 3, Issue 1, January 2014

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Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked mostly minor features and fixing bugs. A few significant bugs include working around a bug in CSSJanus that was wrongly flipping images used in some templates in right-to-left (RTL) environments (bug 50910) a major bug that meant inserting any template or other transclusion failed (bug 59002), a major but quickly resolved problem due to an unannounced change in MediaWiki core, which caused VisualEditor to crash on trying to save (bug 59867). This last bugs did not appear on any Misplaced Pages. Additionally, significant work has been done in the background to make VisualEditor work as an independent editing system.

As of today, VisualEditor is now available as an opt-out feature to all users at 149 active Wikipedias.

  • The character inserter tool in the "Insert" menu has a very basic set of characters. The character inserter is especially important for languages that use Latin and Cyrillic alphabets with unusual characters or frequent diacritics. Your feedback on the character inserter is requested. In addition to feedback from any interested editor, the developers would particularly like to hear from anyone who speaks any of the 50+ languages listed under Phase 5 at mw:VisualEditor/Rollouts, including Breton, Mongolian, Icelandic, Welsh, Afrikaans, Macedonian, and Azerbaijani.
  • meta:Office hours on IRC have been heavily attended recently. The next one will be held this coming Wednesday, 22 January at 23:00 UTC.
  • You can now edit some of the page settings in the "options" dialog – __NOTOC__ and __FORCETOC__ as selection (forced on, forced off, or default setting; bugs 56866 and 56867) and __NOEDITSECTION__ as a checkbox (bug 57166).
  • The automated browser tests were adjusted to speed them up and bind more correctly to list items in lists, and updated to a newer version of their ruby dependencies. You can monitor the automated browser tests' results (triggered every twelve hours) live on the server.
  • Misplaced Pages:VisualEditor/User guide was updated recently to show some new and upcoming features.

Looking ahead: The character formatting menu on the toolbar will get a drop-down indicator next Thursday. The reference and media items will be the first two listed in the Insert menu. The help menu will get a page listing the keyboard shortcuts. Looking further out, image handling will be improved, including support for alignment (left, right, and center) and better control over image size (including default and upright sizes). The developers are also working on support for editing redirects and image galleries.

Subscriptions to this newsletter are managed at Misplaced Pages:VisualEditor/Newsletter. Please add or remove your name to change your subscription settings. If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Misplaced Pages:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 20:07, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks!

I think we have enough OAs now, but thanks very much for your offer to help. Klortho (talk) 13:51, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

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Talkback

Hello, Bilby. You have new messages at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/LumCel.
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Thank you! —Unforgettableid (talk) 23:44, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

question re: your interpretation of WP:INVOLVED

Hi Bilby - as initial clarity, this is not a block I am intending to make, at least at any point before discussions have fully played out (and probably not after,) because blocking a single paidsock isn't a time sensitive issue. I'd been categorically avoiding the idea of conducting any paidsockblock myself given my past involvement with Wiki-PR, but at least one person disagreed that I would be involved given that Wiki-PR has been banned and socking is generally considered an egregiously blockable act anyway, and I'm curious to get your take on it. Out of curiosity: if I blocked User:PetarrPoznic for violating WP:SOCK (which doesn't require ID'ing a master as far as I can tell) with a clearly laid out chain of evidence indicating why there's an overwhelming probability that that account is in violation of WP:SOCK, would you consider my block as in violation of WP:INVOLVED? (Whether you consider it a good or bad block is a separate question, since making a block another admin considers incorrect and making a block another admin considers in violation of WP:INVOLVED are quite different things.) Best, Kevin Gorman (talk) 23:56, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi! Sorry for being away - I picked up a bit of a bug. :) I think there's a good case for blocking PetarrPoznic under the duck test - it is a bit secondary, but I was planning to dig a bit more anyway. I think Rybec is correct that there is good evidence pointing to some of the recently listed accounts. WP:Involved has always been a bit complex here - we haven't necessarily been considered involved if our actions were in admin actions, without any other interaction, especially in long-term sock cases. But I seem to recall a couple of situations where an admin was deemed involved because of the long-term situation. I'll see if I can remember when they came up.
On related issues, Morning277 has been active recently, so I'll be keeping an eye out for him. - Bilby (talk) 23:19, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

RE: WikiExperts

Hi Trident13. I gather you might not be aware, so to clarify the current situation, WikiExperts.us has been community banned from Misplaced Pages. It is an unusual case, as the same model was applied as that given to Wiki-PR, whereby the ban extends to all related organisations, people connected with WikiExperts, and employees. - Bilby (talk) 02:31, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the message - I am not surprised! He approached me re doing some work for him, asked me to sign an NDA, then - nowt! Used some of my day-job skills then to do some background research, and was resultantly happy that the "opportunity" didn't go any further. I didn't see any of the organisations or subjects that he had as clients, but some of the projects that he was offering services to wouldn't have passed WP:NOTAB with a gale force wind behind them. Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 10:45, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

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Industrial/organizational psychology

I could use your help on the industrial/organizational psychology talk page. Iss246 (talk) 02:43, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

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This Month in Education: February 2014


This Month in Education – Volume 3, Issue 2, February 2014

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You can easily re-use references by going to the Insert menu, choosing "Reference", and clicking on "Use an existing reference" in the lower left corner. A list of all references, their numbers, and their ref names (if any) will be shown. You can search the list for any author, title, date, or other keyword. Read the user guide for more information.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some small changes to the user interface, such as moving the reference item to the top of the Insert menu, as well as some minor features and fixing bugs, especially for rich copying and pasting of references.

The biggest change was the addition of more features to the image dialog, including the ability to set alignment (left, right, center), framing options (thumbnail, frame, frameless, and none), adding alt text, and defining the size manually. There is still some work to be done here, including a quick way to set the default size.

  • The main priority is redesigning the reference dialog, with the goal of providing autofill features for ISBNs and URLs and streamlining the process. Current concept drawings are available at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. Please share your ideas about making referencing quick and easy with the designers.
  • A few bugs in the existing reference dialog were fixed. The toolbar was simplified to remove galleries and lists from the reference dialog. When you re-use references, it now correctly displays the references again, rather than just the number and name. If you paste content into a dialog that can't fit there (e.g. ==section headings== in references), it now strips out the inappropriate HTML.
  • You can now edit image galleries inside VisualEditor. At this time, the gallery tool is a very limited option that gives you access to the wikitext. It will see significant improvements at a later date.
  • The character inserter tool in the "Insert" menu is being redesigned. Your feedback on the special character inserter is still wanted, especially if you depend on Misplaced Pages's character inserters for your normal editing rather than using the ones built into your computer.
  • You can now see a help page about keyboard shortcuts in the page menu (three bars next to the Cancel button) (Template:Bug).
  • If you edit categories, your changes will now display correctly after saving the page (Template:Bug).
  • Saving the page should be faster now (Template:Bug).
  • Any community can ask to test a new tool to edit TemplateData by leaving a note at Template:Bug.

Looking ahead: The link tool will tell you when you're linking to a disambiguation or redirect page. The warning about wikitext will hide itself after you remove the wikitext markup in that paragraph. Support for creating and editing redirects is in the pipeline. Looking further out, image handling will be improved, including default and upright sizes. The developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments, some behavioral magic words like DISPLAYTITLE, and in-line language setting (dir="rtl").

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Misplaced Pages:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 04:21, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

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Talkback

Hello, Bilby. You have new messages at Talk:INPEX (invention show).
Message added 00:27, 7 March 2014 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Cheers! —Unforgettableid (talk) 00:27, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Ahem

Special:Contributions/Micky m salesman no 2. He's back. Ishdarian 23:48, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. :) I've blocked, and protected the page. - Bilby (talk) 23:51, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
Well, he's back on the talk page now. Ishdarian 23:52, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. That's now protected too. - Bilby (talk) 23:54, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

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CCI update

CCI completeMisplaced Pages:Contributor copyright investigations/Lionhead99 is now complete. Thank you for your assistance in the evaluation of this CCI.

It's more fun to count the ones going down than the ones coming in. :) --Moonriddengirl 11:10, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter—March 2014

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The template dialog has been simplified to make it faster and easier to add parameter data. Read the user guide for more information.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on changes to the template and image dialogs.

The biggest change in the last few weeks was the redesign of the template dialog. The template dialog now opens in a simplified mode that lists parameters and their descriptions. (The complex multi-item transclusion mode can be reached by clicking on "Show options" from inside the simplified template dialog.) Template parameters now have a bigger, auto-sizing input box for easier editing.  With today's update, searching for template parameters will become case-insensitive, and required template parameters will display an asterisk (*) next to their edit boxes. In addition to making it quicker and easier to see everything when you edit typical templates, this work was necessary to prepare for the forthcoming simplified citation dialog. The main priority in the coming weeks is building this new citation dialog, with the ultimate goal of providing autofill features for ISBNs, URLs, DOIs and other quick-fills. This will add a new button on the toolbar, with the citation templates available picked by each wiki's community. Concept drawings can be seen at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. Please share your ideas about making referencing quick and easy with the designers.

  • The link tool now tells you when you're linking to a disambiguation or redirect page. Pages that exist, but are not indexed by the search engine, are treated like non-existent pages (Template:Bug).
  • Wikitext warnings will now hide when you remove wikitext from the paragraph you are editing.
  • The character inserter tool in the "Insert" menu has been slightly redesigned, to introduce larger buttons. Your suggestions for more significant changes to the special character inserter are still wanted.
  • The page options menu (three bars, next to the Cancel button) has expanded. You can create and edit redirect pages, set page options like __STATICREDIRECT__, __INDEX__ and __NEWEDITSECTION__, and more.  New keyboard shortcuts are listed there, and include undoing the last action, clearing formatting, and showing the shortcut help window. If you switch from VisualEditor to wikitext editing, your edit will now be tagged.
  • It is easier to edit images. There are more options and they are explained better. If you add new images to pages, they will also be default size.  You can now set image sizes to the default, if another size was previously specified. Full support for upright sizing systems, which more readily adapt image sizes to the reader's screen size, is planned.
  • VisualEditor adds fake blank lines so you can put your cursor there. These "slugs" are now smaller than normal blank lines, and are animated to be different from actual blank lines.
  • You can use the Ctrl+Alt+S or ⌘ Command+⌥ Option+S shortcuts to open the save window, and you can preview your edit summary when checking your changes in the save window.
  • After community requests, VisualEditor has been deployed to the Interlingual Occidental Misplaced Pages, the Portuguese Wikibooks, and the French Wikiversity.
  • Any community can ask for custom icons for their language in the character formatting menu (bold, italic, etc.) by making a request on Bugzilla or by contacting Product Manager James Forrester.

The developers apologize for a regression bug with the deployment on 6 March 2014, which caused the incorrect removal of |upright size definitions on a handful of pages on the English Misplaced Pages, among others. The root cause was fixed, and the broken pages were fixed soon after.

Looking ahead:  Several template dialogs will become more compact. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. You will be able to see the Table of Contents change live as you edit the page, rather than it being hidden. In-line language setting (dir="rtl") may be offered to a few Wikipedias soon.

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Misplaced Pages:VisualEditor/Feedback or by joining the office hours on 19 April 2014 at 2000 UTC. Thank you! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:44, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Your Jay Weatherill photo

Hey! I'm just wondering when you took this photo if it was the only one you took of him or if there are others you took that you may have not uploaded? Timeshift (talk) 01:21, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

There might be some others, but that was before I picked up the fast long lens, so I don't know how well they worked, as I was still using the f4. I'll see if I can dig them up. - Bilby (talk) 00:09, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! Timeshift (talk) 00:14, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Another RfC on naming

Please see the further RfC here. --John (talk) 18:59, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Quick note

Hi Bilby. Given your involvement in the occupational health psychology article over time, can you comment, on talk, as to a couple of clear points I've left there. Just want a civil resolution and to bring some much needed NPOV to that very biased article. Was not sure why you were so keen to get rid of the reference to the scientific committee at the University of South Australia conference, but anyway have compromised on that too.Mrm7171 (talk) 03:32, 22 March 2014 (UTC)